2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 4 - Trade season continues - No player trade restrictions

[lilfishi22]

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Fantastic thread. David Nash always brings good analysis

This aligns with what I've been saying for the longest time. DA's best role is being a complementary player to creators but NOT as a creator himself. When he doesn't have to make too many decisions or make too many moves to get buckets and only has to finish what the play being set up gets him, he's a very very good player.

[sunskerr]

Id prefer to keep Cam Johnson and just have one of the sickest forward/wing rotations.

[TeamTragic]

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Dinos don't want to overpay for OG but we should pay him and send out multiple FRP

[lilfishi22]

Id prefer to keep Cam Johnson and just have one of the sickest forward/wing rotations.

Yeah not saying I wouldn't welcome OG to Phoenix but I like what we have in CamJo and given the opportunity, I think Cam is a better offensive player than OG. OG is definitely a better defender but I think if we could lock up CamJo for similar money to OG now (4yr $72m) that would be better value than having to deal with OG's next contract which we'll have to start looking at as soon as next season.

All that and without mentioning the possibility of giving up 2-3 FRP's along with CamJo get OG.

[lilfishi22]

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Dinos don't want to overpay for OG but we should pay him and send out multiple FRP

Can't blame Masai doing his job. I'd do the same to maximise the value of my assets too

[bwoolf2]

There are deals to be made to significantly improve this team without giving up any significant pieces.

Crowder and a pick 3 team with Gordon and Martin Jr coming back

Saric Shamet and a 1st to Utah for Beasley and Vanderbilt, may have to add a 2nd to that.

Deepest team in the league by far and a killer 2nd unit of payne, Beasley, Martin, Vanderbilt, biz/landale. And Gordon if payne is out

That team would be the favorite and it's entirely possible to pull of. Plus you could keep a lot of it together past 1 year.

[TeamTragic]

There are deals to be made to significantly improve this team without giving up any significant pieces.

Crowder and a pick 3 team with Gordon and Martin Jr coming back

Saric Shamet and a 1st to Utah for Beasley and Vanderbilt, may have to add a 2nd to that.

Deepest team in the league by far and a killer 2nd unit of payne, Beasley, Martin, Vanderbilt, biz/landale.

That team would be the favorite and it's entirely possible to pull of. Plus you could keep a lot of it together past 1 year.

If it was that easy those trades would have happened Wolf

[bwoolf2]

There are deals to be made to significantly improve this team without giving up any significant pieces.

Crowder and a pick 3 team with Gordon and Martin Jr coming back

Saric Shamet and a 1st to Utah for Beasley and Vanderbilt, may have to add a 2nd to that.

Deepest team in the league by far and a killer 2nd unit of payne, Beasley, Martin, Vanderbilt, biz/landale.

That team would be the favorite and it's entirely possible to pull of. Plus you could keep a lot of it together past 1 year.

If it was that easy those trades would have happened Wolf

Those are all doable and they aren't trading any assets until ishbia takes over so nope nothing happening until then

[spanishninja]

There are deals to be made to significantly improve this team without giving up any significant pieces.

Crowder and a pick 3 team with Gordon and Martin Jr coming back

Saric Shamet and a 1st to Utah for Beasley and Vanderbilt, may have to add a 2nd to that.

Deepest team in the league by far and a killer 2nd unit of payne, Beasley, Martin, Vanderbilt, biz/landale.

That team would be the favorite and it's entirely possible to pull of. Plus you could keep a lot of it together past 1 year.

If it was that easy those trades would have happened Wolf

as soon as any one of those trades happens, the other teams will try to stop the other two from happening.

[bwoolf2]

There are deals to be made to significantly improve this team without giving up any significant pieces.

Crowder and a pick 3 team with Gordon and Martin Jr coming back

Saric Shamet and a 1st to Utah for Beasley and Vanderbilt, may have to add a 2nd to that.

Deepest team in the league by far and a killer 2nd unit of payne, Beasley, Martin, Vanderbilt, biz/landale.

That team would be the favorite and it's entirely possible to pull of. Plus you could keep a lot of it together past 1 year.

If it was that easy those trades would have happened Wolf

as soon as any one of those trades happens, the other teams will try to stop the other two from happening.

Thats not how it works, they can't just stop something because they don't like it. They would have to up their offer maybe they do maybe they don't but to act like they just say nooo you can't do that isn't facts

Also it's only two trades

And if the Suns were smart they would execute both trades simultaneously or close to it

[spanishninja]

If it was that easy those trades would have happened Wolf

as soon as any one of those trades happens, the other teams will try to stop the other two from happening.

Thats not how it works, they can't just stop something because they don't like it. They would have to up their offer maybe they do maybe they don't but to act like they just say nooo you can't do that isn't facts

Also it's only two trades

And if the Suns were smart they would execute both trades simultaneously or close to it

that's how I mean they would stop it

[bwoolf2]

as soon as any one of those trades happens, the other teams will try to stop the other two from happening.

Thats not how it works, they can't just stop something because they don't like it. They would have to up their offer maybe they do maybe they don't but to act like they just say nooo you can't do that isn't facts

Also it's only two trades

And if the Suns were smart they would execute both trades simultaneously or close to it

that's how I mean they would stop it

Not likely if Suns execute properly as assets from one trade are not needed for the other so they could happen simultaneously

[Slim Charless]

There are deals to be made to significantly improve this team without giving up any significant pieces.

Crowder and a pick 3 team with Gordon and Martin Jr coming back

Saric Shamet and a 1st to Utah for Beasley and Vanderbilt, may have to add a 2nd to that.

Deepest team in the league by far and a killer 2nd unit of payne, Beasley, Martin, Vanderbilt, biz/landale. And Gordon if payne is out

That team would be the favorite and it's entirely possible to pull of. Plus you could keep a lot of it together past 1 year.

Kenyon Martin Jr and Vanderbilt are making us the title favorites now? OK

[Ghost of Kleine]

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So more like a 1st for each of Vanderbilt and Beasley is what it'd take. IF offering up two firsts plus salary fillers, I'd rather have Clarkson and Vanderbilt! Or else just go all out and pursue a Anunoby/ Trent trade as a bigger needle mover!

[bwoolf2]

There are deals to be made to significantly improve this team without giving up any significant pieces.

Crowder and a pick 3 team with Gordon and Martin Jr coming back

Saric Shamet and a 1st to Utah for Beasley and Vanderbilt, may have to add a 2nd to that.

Deepest team in the league by far and a killer 2nd unit of payne, Beasley, Martin, Vanderbilt, biz/landale. And Gordon if payne is out

That team would be the favorite and it's entirely possible to pull of. Plus you could keep a lot of it together past 1 year.

Kenyon Martin Jr and Vanderbilt are making us the title favorites now? OK

OG is minus Cam, lol... I'll take Beasley Martin, and Vanderbilt plus Cam over OG any day of the week and twice on Sunday and it would cost less assets.

And that answer is yes, yes it would.

It's funny you act like OG is an all nba player he hasn't even made an all star game and again he is not a PF, never has been.

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[TeamTragic]

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So more like a 1st for each of Vanderbilt and Beasley is what it'd take. IF offering up two firsts plus salary fillers, I'd rather have Clarkson and Vanderbilt! Or else just go all out and pursue a Anunoby/ Trent trade as a bigger needle mover!

Neither player moves the needle. I wouldn't trade a FRP especially because Ainge.

[bwoolf2]

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So more like a 1st for each of Vanderbilt and Beasley is what it'd take. IF offering up two firsts plus salary fillers, I'd rather have Clarkson and Vanderbilt! Or else just go all out and pursue a Anunoby/ Trent trade as a bigger needle mover!

Neither player moves the needle. I wouldn't trade a FRP especially because Ainge.

Beasley is 4th in the league in 3pt made this season and Vanderbilt defends and rebounds at a high level both would be big upgrades to Craig, Shamet, saric, okogie and who ever else we have on the bench.

[Slim Charless]

There are deals to be made to significantly improve this team without giving up any significant pieces.

Crowder and a pick 3 team with Gordon and Martin Jr coming back

Saric Shamet and a 1st to Utah for Beasley and Vanderbilt, may have to add a 2nd to that.

Deepest team in the league by far and a killer 2nd unit of payne, Beasley, Martin, Vanderbilt, biz/landale. And Gordon if payne is out

That team would be the favorite and it's entirely possible to pull of. Plus you could keep a lot of it together past 1 year.

Kenyon Martin Jr and Vanderbilt are making us the title favorites now? OK

OG is minus Cam, lol... I'll take Beasley Martin, and Vanderbilt plus Cam over OG any day of the week and twice on Sunday and it would cost less assets.

And that answer is yes, yes it would.

It's funny you act like OG is an all nba player he hasn't even made an all star game and again he is not a PF, never has been.

Let me ask a question. What is it that Cam Johnson does better than OG? I'll give you 3 pointers but I'll remind you that career Cam is .390 Which is very good. Now, you ask what is OG's career shooting?



.371

with MUCH better defense, being younger and being better all other counting stats. So again: what does Cam do better?


I'll wait.

[BobbieL]

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So more like a 1st for each of Vanderbilt and Beasley is what it'd take. IF offering up two firsts plus salary fillers, I'd rather have Clarkson and Vanderbilt! Or else just go all out and pursue a Anunoby/ Trent trade as a bigger needle mover!

Neither player moves the needle. I wouldn't trade a FRP especially because Ainge.

Beasley is 4th in the league in 3pt made this season and Vanderbilt defends and rebounds at a high level both would be big upgrades to Craig, Shamet, saric, okogie and who ever else we have on the bench.

I don't think the Suns can trust Payne or Shamet at this point off the bench. Payne is hurt - still in a walking boot