lilfishi22 wrote:bwgood77 wrote:Frank Lee wrote:
Did I miss something? He wasn’t asked that.
And Book to Houston? Do they need him? They have invested in Green and drafted Sheppard… you know, SGs. They going to trade Green? If not, they run into the same BS we have here with Beal. Y’all need to get on the other side of the fence sometimes. Durant? That’s a different deal as Jabari could be swapped out.
Still VanVleet, Smith and a couple of picks back isn’t much of a return for KD. Might be more in line with Books value tho. Which, to no surprise, I think is inflated at this site.
Houston has definitely said that if Booker was available they'd be heavily interested. They have so much athetlicism and defense, and need that go to scorer. They have everything Book would need on a team.
I don't think they are that high on Green, and Sheppard I'm not sure what to expect. He hasn't done much yet. But they probably project him as a PG. He shot really well from 3 in college, but also averaged 4.5 apg and is only 6'3.
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I was never high on Green and with the contract they gave him, it's clear they aren't super high on Green either. FVV, Smith and a bunch of picks is probably what I'd like in a KD deal. Smith is a high potential guy who isn't even 22 yet, has great physical attributes, still under team control at a low salary and is basically worth a 1st round pick himself. FVV is a massive expiring so we're not taking on any big long-term salaries and if we could get like 2-3 picks, that's probably a pretty decent deal for KD.
I look at it this way in a slightly positive beneficial slant in a potential Booker trade because If it's true that they're not high on him (like they are with Amen who's clearly untouchable) then his value will be lower causing them to add more in the exchange in order to meet the necessary value thresholds. Now I don't want Van Vleet despite his huge expiring because he represents just another aging undersized guard that if included would at up most of the salary matching in the deal resulting in Houston having to surrender a much smaller package of young players for him. I mean sure he's a solid vet, but if we're trading Booker, then we're rebuilding. And we could just as easily get far enough under the cap line and aprons by virtue of taking back 2-3 of their young cost-controlled talents and then trading KD as well because it'd make no sense to trade Booker and just try to compete around a 37 yr old KD and oft-injured Beal. I'd much rather take back J Green/ Eason or Whitmore and our 1sts back than Van Vleet ( huge salary Dump) and maybe only 1 young prospect/ picks. Because in taking back a lower salary than Van Vleet, it becomes more necessary for Houston to add multiple salaries to get closer to matching.
I get that some here don't value Jalen Green as highly as I might. But his value/upside going forward far outweighs the one-time cap reduction Van Vleet would offer to us. Sure he hasn't yet put it all together yet, but he's still only 23 years old and that'll come with age and more experience, and his ceiling is very high! I mean he's already averaging 21/4/4, and really just needs to improve his shot selection, timing, and situational nuance to take that next big leap!
But it likely won't matter what people think of Green, as any Booker trade with Houston, would absolutely be sending Green back to us rather than to keep both and have close to 80 million tied up in only one position. Only our front office is dumb enough to do that!....LOL. But if it's actually a KD to Houston trade we're talking about, AND we're taking Van Vleet back to get all of our 3 1st back (25,27, and 29 1sts). Then I'm cool with that package of KD for Van Vleet/ Smith Jr/ PHX 25' 1st, PHX 27' 1st, PHX 29' 1st. I can be down with that. Then sign a bunch of free agent depth pieces around Booker and Beal, and draft athletic, young talent to be our core for the future!
