The One And Only Offseason Thread 4

[LukasBMW]

I'm most upset PJ didn't try to get away from the cop. He was driving a 2011 Mercedes. I can guarantee you that PJ could have outran the cop, gotten home, and avoided a suspension.

We all know that when PJ Tucker breaks away in a fast break, he always makes good decisions and shows great hand/eye coordination. He should have applied those same skills to evading police that night.

[Kerrsed]

Please call a taxi tonight if you go anywhere.


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nah man trying to beat PJ's personal best tonight...I'm not sure about you yet man...but I can't tell if it's an act yet...keeping my eye on you

Dude how is this remotely funny?

Is Kerrsed, Tastic or Milko here? How are posts like these acceptable and not breaking the rules and yet posting "K" or "INBL" in a thread (granted that's its on the General NBA board) can result in a perma ban of that forum?

My goodness.

1. I know you know that he is not being serious. Yes, he is making light of a bad situation. Yes, some people might think that its in bad taste, but thats subjective depending on different posters.

2. The name calling is not welcome in that manner. It has been edited out and a warning will be issued. People on this board do call each other names in good fun, but the way he did it was not.

3. We are very lenient on our board. We do not ban or suspend people for the same things that they do on the GB. "K" or "INBL" or just picture/GIF posts are ok here, but not on the GB. The GB has had many issues since it is visited by posters from all fan bases, which can make it a hotbed for trolling and hateful posts. It used to be much different, but they really had to tighten up the rules and pull back on the reigns to make it hospital for users again. Most rules are the same on all boards, its just up to the Mods on how/if they are all enforced with an iron fist.

[sunsbum]

Please. This has nothing to do with you. That angle doesn't work. I'm 100% sure you've done something that has put someone's life at risk because of stupidity. Everyone has. If your skeletons were on this message board how would you fare?

Sorry, that was meant for whoever quoted my last post.

[Zelaznyrules]

Please. This has nothing to do with you. That angle doesn't work. I'm 100% sure you've done something that has put someone's life at risk because of stupidity. Everyone has. If your skeletons were on this message board how would you fare?

Sorry, that was meant for whoever quoted my last post.

Then you're 100% wrong. And if my skeletons were on this message board I'd be embarrassed, maybe humiliated. At 15, I was invited to a friends cabin for the weekend with him and his family. It was a cold night in Payson, so cold I dreamed I'd walked to the outhouse instead of actually crawling out from underneath the covers. I woke up drenched in urine. I have a handful of moments like that in my life that I'd rather stayed private but no, I've never done anything so careless, so reckless as Tucker appears to have done.

It doesn't do it justice to simply call it stupidity. He made the decision to drink alcohol and drive. That isn't a mistake, that's a conscious act. If he stood on a rooftop and threw a baseball as far as he could and it turned out to travel much further than expected and it ended up causing a fatal accident, as horrible as that is, I would agree with calling it a mistake and and an act of stupidity. I'd feel bad for him and even worse for the victims. But this is unacceptable. I'm not saying it's unforgivable, just unacceptable.

[Revived]

1. I know you know that he is not being serious. Yes, he is making light of a bad situation. Yes, some people might think that its in bad taste, but thats subjective depending on different posters.

Of course I know he isn't being serious, that's why I asked him why he thinks its funny. I know he's trying to be funny.

As for it being subjective, I really would like to know how many posters thought it was funny for him to say that. Its equivalent of me saying, "Oh hey, I'm gonna try to hijack a plane and maybe take down the White House this time to one up the Taliban".

[Kerrsed]

1. I know you know that he is not being serious. Yes, he is making light of a bad situation. Yes, some people might think that its in bad taste, but thats subjective depending on different posters.

Of course I know he isn't being serious, that's why I asked him why he thinks its funny. I know he's trying to be funny.

As for it being subjective, I really would like to know how many posters thought it was funny for him to say that. Its equivalent of me saying, "Oh hey, I'm gonna try to hijack a plane and maybe take down the White House this time to one up the Taliban".

Are you seriously trying to equate Tucker getting a DUI to 9/11? You take the L on that one in my book.

[Revived]

1. I know you know that he is not being serious. Yes, he is making light of a bad situation. Yes, some people might think that its in bad taste, but thats subjective depending on different posters.

Of course I know he isn't being serious, that's why I asked him why he thinks its funny. I know he's trying to be funny.

As for it being subjective, I really would like to know how many posters thought it was funny for him to say that. Its equivalent of me saying, "Oh hey, I'm gonna try to hijack a plane and maybe take down the White House this time to one up the Taliban".

Are you seriously trying to equate Tucker getting a DUI to 9/11? You take the L on that one in my book.

No I'm not. I'm equating his "joke" to my "joke".

He joked about committing a crime to a higher degree than one being talked about here and I joked about committing a crime to a higher degree than the 9/11.

But of course, since its the 9/11 nobody finds it funny and I'm sure I will offend many...

FYI to all, I wasn't making the joke or comparing the situations. I wouldn't make a joke about the 9/11 just like I would expect nobody to make a joke about DUI, sexual harassment, rape, murder etc.

[Moochthemonkey]

There's a time and place for any kind of humor, no matter how dark and twisted it is, because that's all it is; humor. The internet is one of those places, however Realgm is family friendly...right Kerrsed

[Saberestar]

Bledsoe has the option of playing in Phoenix for a $3.7 million qualifying offer next season and then becoming an unrestricted free agent next summer. His qualifying offer would be a little more tempting if not for his health, a huge issue for any willing investor. His qualifying offer would be about $5.2 million had he started one more game (he started 40 and played in 43).

Either way, the qualifying offer is a risk for Bledsoe after two knee surgeries and for the risk of another injury or an off year. However, if he gambles right on his body, play and team's success, he could emerge optimally with a four-year, $68 million deal next summer with any team. Betting on himself could also mean negotiating a shorter deal now with Phoenix, like LeBron James and Lance Stephenson did with their teams.

That qualifying offer expires Oct. 1, and then Bledsoe would remain a restricted free agent. The Suns report for training camp two days before that. If you did not think it would take all of July for resolution, how will this feel in September?

In a return, Bledsoe would have public-image massaging to do with Phoenix, a place he has not embraced publicly since passing on a contract extension, and a place he has not returned to over the past three months to join teammates' voluntary workouts. That does not change whether he wants to be in Phoenix. By asking for a five-year deal from Phoenix, he seems to be envisioning a Suns future.

Give it a couple more weeks. It was mid-August last year when Nikola Pekovic signed a five-year, $60 million contract with Minnesota. He also was a restricted free agent who had a history of injuries, a "top offseason priority" label by his team and no other offers.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /13304217/

[b-ball forever]

1. I know you know that he is not being serious. Yes, he is making light of a bad situation. Yes, some people might think that its in bad taste, but thats subjective depending on different posters.

Of course I know he isn't being serious, that's why I asked him why he thinks its funny. I know he's trying to be funny.

As for it being subjective, I really would like to know how many posters thought it was funny for him to say that. Its equivalent of me saying, "Oh hey, I'm gonna try to hijack a plane and maybe take down the White House this time to one up the Taliban".

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hWVSvzh9os[/youtube]

Ban him !

[bwgood77]

1. I know you know that he is not being serious. Yes, he is making light of a bad situation. Yes, some people might think that its in bad taste, but thats subjective depending on different posters.

Of course I know he isn't being serious, that's why I asked him why he thinks its funny. I know he's trying to be funny.

As for it being subjective, I really would like to know how many posters thought it was funny for him to say that. Its equivalent of me saying, "Oh hey, I'm gonna try to hijack a plane and maybe take down the White House this time to one up the Taliban".

Dude, he was talking about his personal best drinking. Not drinking and driving. It's not a crime to drink. Maybe given the situation it isn't funny, but otherwise I'm sure some people would think it is a little humorous.

[aIvin adams]

i'm not saying ppl don't have a right to joke, but for those of us who have lost a loved one to drunk driving the jokes will only cause pain because 'making light of' drunk driving gives inertia to the driver who wants 'just one more' and obstructs the person who demands the drunk driver's keys.

when it comes to DUIs, the jokes are harmful because opprobrium is one of society's most effective tools for preventing DUIs.

[Fo-Real]

PJ will be fine, he is a grown man who made a mistake like many have before him and many will after him. To try and beat him over the head with it and throw him to the wolves never to be seen again is just stupid. Either he will be a better man for it and learn from his mistake and do well from this point on, or repeat his mistake and then you all can continue over reacting.

On a basketball note.... you know... what this thread is supposed to be for.... does anyone think Oladipo is completely off limits no matter what we throw at them. I mean it would take a good offer, but the dude is a game changer and worth it, not to mention that Orlando could more than afford to take on Bledso on a max contract. So on paper we would have to overpay but Dipo would be amazing next to Dragic... So Im prepared for the freakout from all of you.... I would offer Bledso+ Len+ either our or the Laker pick for Dipo and filler. You got to spend money to make money right?? Does that even come close to getting Orlando to think about it?

[Sunsdeuce]

PJ will be fine, he is a grown man who made a mistake like many have before him and many will after him. To try and beat him over the head with it and throw him to the wolves never to be seen again is just stupid. Either he will be a better man for it and learn from his mistake and do well from this point on, or repeat his mistake and then you all can continue over reacting.

On a basketball note.... you know... what this thread is supposed to be for.... does anyone think Oladipo is completely off limits no matter what we throw at them. I mean it would take a good offer, but the dude is a game changer and worth it, not to mention that Orlando could more than afford to take on Bledso on a max contract. So on paper we would have to overpay but Dipo would be amazing next to Dragic... So Im prepared for the freakout from all of you.... I would offer Bledso+ Len+ either our or the Laker pick for Dipo and filler. You got to spend money to make money right?? Does that even come close to getting Orlando to think about it?

I don't agree with what you said. We are not talking about Stephen a smith saying it's ok to beat women. Than Stephen a goes on tv and apologizing for his use of words. We are talking about someone who could have very easily killed someone. People driving and walking in the area tucker should be very thankful the police were there to get tucker off the street. Besides a mistake is something like I bought the wrong brand of soap. That's a mistake.

Drinking and driving at a level of .22 is NOT a mistake. He needs to be thrown to the wolves for his actions.

Donte stallworth killed someone while drinking and driving. He has to live with that he rest of his life. I wonder if he thinks it's "just a mistake."
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[Fo-Real]

Could have and DID NOT. Do I support him and pat him on the back.. HELL NO. He got extreemly lucky and he should count his lucky stars he did not do anyghing worse. But has this happened to MILLIONS of men before (driving when you shouldnt have), HELL YES, and will continue to happen. Not saying it isnt a big deal, he has some serious demons to address, but to act like he took a piss on the pope is an over reaction. This should serve as a huge wake up call to him, that he didnt hurt himself or anyone else. I trust as a man he will make the adjustments, and if he fails to do that, then his luck will run out. There are good people who make mistakes every day.. the true test is to see if they continue to make the same mistakes, and if so... maybe they arent good people. This is the first problem I have heard of from Tucker, if he is a good dude, he will put his head down, go to work, fix his problems, and move ahead not causing as much as a wisper of an issue form this point... and I assume he will. To just judge him and be done with him is an over reaction to me. I understand you might not have the same standards... I am not faulting you or telling you they should change, Just saying how I feel.

[RunDogGun]

Tucker needs a mentor....like Charles Barkley or Tom Chambers...

Or JRich, or Kidd.

[Fo-Real]

And as far as the Smith crap, he is an idiot and that wont change, although I have my own opinions as to the Ray Rice and the slap happy hoodrat... but that is not basketball conversation nor anything I wish to share since my opinion is not popular on that whole thing.

About the chances of getting Orlando to even think about giving up Oladipo???

[bwgood77]

PJ will be fine, he is a grown man who made a mistake like many have before him and many will after him. To try and beat him over the head with it and throw him to the wolves never to be seen again is just stupid. Either he will be a better man for it and learn from his mistake and do well from this point on, or repeat his mistake and then you all can continue over reacting.

On a basketball note.... you know... what this thread is supposed to be for.... does anyone think Oladipo is completely off limits no matter what we throw at them. I mean it would take a good offer, but the dude is a game changer and worth it, not to mention that Orlando could more than afford to take on Bledso on a max contract. So on paper we would have to overpay but Dipo would be amazing next to Dragic... So Im prepared for the freakout from all of you.... I would offer Bledso+ Len+ either our or the Laker pick for Dipo and filler. You got to spend money to make money right?? Does that even come close to getting Orlando to think about it?

I don't agree with what you said. We are not talking about Stephen a smith saying it's ok to beat women. Than Stephen a goes on tv and apologizing for his use of words. We are talking about someone who could have very easily killed someone. People driving and walking in the area tucker should be very thankful the police were there to get tucker off the street. Besides a mistake is something like I bought the wrong brand of soap. That's a mistake.

Drinking and driving at a level of .22 is NOT a mistake. He needs to be thrown to the wolves for his actions.

Donte stallworth killed someone while drinking and driving. He has to live with that he rest of his life. I wonder if he thinks it's "just a mistake."
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Yeah, Donte Stallworth probably thinks that was a HUGE mistake. Yes, drinking and driving at a level of .22 IS a mistake. That level of intoxication is a level to where he did not consciously make that decision. He had no idea what he was doing.

This is BY NO MEANS EXCUSABLE. I'm just saying there need to be better precautions in place for this type of behavior, because people unable to make choices if they happened to get that inebriated, need to have safeguards around him. Now perhaps this is a problem of getting that drunk in the first place and he needs to be in rehab. But any friends he was with, a server...and of these people should have known better than to let this guy get into a car...they should have taken his keys or at least called a cab because he obviously didn't know what he was doing. I suppose there is a possibility he has such a high tolerance that he can function at that level, but that's gotta be extremely rare. Anyone over about a .15 probably is not going to be able to function very well regardless of tolerance.

There is also the possibility he has mental health problems that need to be addressed and that he wasn't in the right frame of mind either. It's still not excusable, but excessive judgement without knowing circumstances in unwarranted.

[bwgood77]

And as far as the Smith crap, he is an idiot and that wont change, although I have my own opinions as to the Ray Rice and the slap happy hoodrat... but that is not basketball conversation nor anything I wish to share since my opinion is not popular on that whole thing.

About the chances of getting Orlando to even think about giving up Oladipo???

I'm guessing not a good chance. Because if they really wanted Bledsoe they could have signed him outright and gone with him a Dipo at guard, with Payton off the bench. Or then traded Dipo for other assets. He's probably close to untouchable right now. They will take their time with their rebuild. They are not ready to compete with Gordon and Payton, so they will let Dipo grow with those guys.

[RunDogGun]

According to the English language, a mistake is an action or judgement that is misguided or wrong. PJ made a mistake according to the language we are speaking here. It could have been a grave mistake, but was not. Let's not crucify him for what he could have done, and let the police and league punish him for what he actually did.

Moving on I'm surprised that video about Laden didn't have GBush hugging him a lot, considering Bush flew all of his family out of the US, while the rest of us weren't allowed to fly.

I highly doubt we get Oladipo from Orlando.