Draft Discussion Part 3

RaisingArizona · Post #1021 » by **RaisingArizona** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:57 pm

Dambo wrote:I'm almost positive we're gonna trade down and snag Collins.

That'd be a head scratcher, for sure.

chaplin1 · Post #1022 » by **chaplin1** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:58 pm

Tysons Elbow wrote:

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Ah, irony.

Skin · Post #1023 » by **Skin** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:59 pm

Saberestar wrote:
Skin wrote:
Saberestar wrote:FWIW, Gambo has heard that Isaac made a private workout for Orlando. He says that is not true that we have given Isaac a promise. Orlando picks #6.

Who is Gambo? Any link?

He has said that on his radio show.
https://mobile.twitter.com/gambo987?lang=es

Thank you sir!

Saberestar · Post #1024 » by **Saberestar** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:01 pm

BobbieL wrote:
Saberestar wrote:FWIW, Gambo has heard that Isaac made a private workout for Orlando. He says that is not true that we have given Isaac a promise. Orlando picks #6.

So Gambo is saying if Ball is on the board the Suns are still taking Isaac?

IDK exactly. He said the other day that we like a lot Tatum, Ball and Isaac.
Fox and Monk not real options for us.

Dambo · Post #1025 » by **Dambo** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:03 pm

I actually kinda like the idea of ball and booker backcourt.

BobbieL · Post #1026 » by **BobbieL** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:04 pm

chaplin1 wrote:
Tysons Elbow wrote:

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Ah, irony.

First if they want Jackson - you call their bluff and say - "you take Jackson and we will let the Sixers decide if they want Ball or not"

Second, you do not help the Lakers by both taking a bad contract and giving them a player like Jackson

If the Lakers want to do this deal - you make them take Brandon Knights contract. And by the way, I looked at Dengs contract, its a joke. Deng has like 54m left - Knight has much less left. Do not make trades with the Lakers that somehow benefit them like taking on a Deng contract. I would rather say give them TJ Warren and the 4 for the 2 than this deal

This has to be total BS - the Suns are not doing this

RaisingArizona · Post #1027 » by **RaisingArizona** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:05 pm

Before I got on the Isaac train, I was calling for Ball. Hmm, interesting. I'd rather just take Isaac but we'll see I guess?

Skin · Post #1028 » by **Skin** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:06 pm

Dambo wrote:I actually kinda like the idea of ball and booker backcourt.

Then you bring Aaron Gordon back to Arizona so you can start building a team of light skinned brothas. :lol:

Son of Ra · Post #1029 » by **Son of Ra** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:13 pm

Tysons Elbow wrote:

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Can you imagine the Ball's reaction if he gets drafted by the Lakers and ten minutes later traded away :lol:

Tysons Elbow · Post #1030 » by **Tysons Elbow** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:28 pm

BobbieL wrote:
chaplin1 wrote:
Tysons Elbow wrote:

Read on Twitter

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Ah, irony.

First if they want Jackson - you call their bluff and say - "you take Jackson and we will let the Sixers decide if they want Ball or not"

Second, you do not help the Lakers by both taking a bad contract and giving them a player like Jackson

If the Lakers want to do this deal - you make them take Brandon Knights contract. And by the way, I looked at Dengs contract, its a joke. Deng has like 54m left - Knight has much less left. Do not make trades with the Lakers that somehow benefit them like taking on a Deng contract. I would rather say give them TJ Warren and the 4 for the 2 than this deal

This has to be total BS - the Suns are not doing this

They were talking about it on Burns and Gambo a little bit. Burns was calling BS on it as well.

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AtheJ415 · Post #1031 » by **AtheJ415** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:49 pm

I like Isaac as much as anybody, but you absolutely do NOT make a promise to him at 4. There are too many question marks right now among the 2nd and 3rd picks to do that. I personally, as much as I like Isaac, have no idea how you would pass on Ball for this team at 4. I also can see the argument for Jackson over Isaac. Either could be available at our pick, and we shouldn't lock ourselves out of having that option this early. On top of that you have the Kings who are rumored to be desperately trying to come up to take Fox, which would ensure one of those 2 fall to us at 4.

DirtyDez · Post #1032 » by **DirtyDez** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:54 pm

Tatum at 6 + asset > Isaac at 4

Who's with me?

Post #1033 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:58 pm

BobbieL wrote:
chaplin1 wrote:
Tysons Elbow wrote:

Read on Twitter

Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums

Ah, irony.

First if they want Jackson - you call their bluff and say - "you take Jackson and we will let the Sixers decide if they want Ball or not"

Second, you do not help the Lakers by both taking a bad contract and giving them a player like Jackson

If the Lakers want to do this deal - you make them take Brandon Knights contract. And by the way, I looked at Dengs contract, its a joke. Deng has like 54m left - Knight has much less left. Do not make trades with the Lakers that somehow benefit them like taking on a Deng contract. I would rather say give them TJ Warren and the 4 for the 2 than this deal

This has to be total BS - the Suns are not doing this

This was just a dumb theory from a week ago on the ringers podcast that they happened to mention that scenario from the week old podcast. It wouldn't totally surprise me but this isn't anything new and isn't news.

Post #1034 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:59 pm

DirtyDez wrote:Tatum at 6 + asset > Isaac at 4

Who's with me?

Melo + what asset or Durant/Giannis hybrid (upsides mentioned in articles used)

Which players do you prefer?

Post #1035 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:03 am

Skin wrote:
Saberestar wrote:FWIW, Gambo has heard that Isaac made a private workout for Orlando. He says that is not true that we have given Isaac a promise. Orlando picks #6.

Who is Gambo? Any link?

Gambo is a loudmouth radio host in Phx who likes to talk a lot but doesn't know too much. If none of you fans have heard anything about a private workout taking place then it didn't happen. On twitter he said

Read on Twitter

Dr Manute · Post #1036 » by **Dr Manute** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:04 am

I would be happy with Ball at 4. Trade Bled for another 1st and pick up Collins.

PG - Ball
SG - Booker
SF - Bender
PF - Chriss
C - Collins
Bench - TJ , Ulis

young core that can grow together and compete after Golden State is done.

DirtyDez · Post #1037 » by **DirtyDez** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:05 am

bwgood77 wrote:Melo + what asset or Durant/Giannis hybrid (upsides mentioned in articles used)

Which players do you prefer?

Considering Durant/Giannis hybrid would be the greatest player in history...

Btw good job locking cesspool threads on the GB. One of my pet peeves is ppl starting ridiculous comparison threads to get everyone to bash a certain player.

mikefly3113 · Post #1038 » by **mikefly3113** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:09 am

RunSunRun wrote:I'm really really hoping those rumors of moving our 4th pick for the Kings 5th and 10th pan out. Praying that they love someone who is available at 4 that we don't have as high like Fox.

Dream scenario. I think Sac really wants him and frankly they need him. I'd even consider taking him and instantly getting on the phone with Sac to work that out. If we could snag the #5 which would either be Tatum or Issac (good with either) and take the bpa at 10 collins, Smith, Lauri, etc would be incredible. Mcdonough would have pulled highway robbery on kings back to back drafts.

sunsbum · Post #1039 » by **sunsbum** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:11 am

chaplin1 wrote:I don't post a lot, but wanted to give my .02 (thanks Qwigglez for the push):

Right now, my board is:
1) Ball
2) Isaac
3) Tatum

If it gets to the point that Ball is taken by the Lakers and the 76ers take Tatum, for example, then we should absolutely trade with Sacramento for the #5 and #10, still get Isaac and then get Collins or Markannen with the #10.

If we end up just going to with Ball or Isaac at the #4, I think it would be a good idea for us to get a pick in the late 1st and get Jordan Bell. If that happens, just sell one or both the 2nd's and use whatever remains as a draft-and-stash. Done.

You should post more. What's so great about ASFN?

Post #1040 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:15 am

DirtyDez wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Melo + what asset or Durant/Giannis hybrid (upsides mentioned in articles used)

Which players do you prefer?

Considering Durant/Giannis hybrid would be the greatest player in history...

Btw good job locking cesspool threads on the GB. One of my pet peeves is ppl starting ridiculous comparison threads to get everyone to bash a certain player.

Yeah, no good was going to come out of that and it was a stupid thread.

Who would you rather have, Jackson or Tatum?