2019 season speculation including trade ideas

[Qwigglez]

Only trade I would consider is DeAndre Ayton, Ty Johnson for Karl Anthony Towns.

Dammit Qwigglez, why'd you have to go and make me all conflicted right now?

Don't feel THAT conflicted. Minnesota wouldn't entertain trading Towns...he's upped his game another level. I know it's only 4 games but 27.3 ppg, 11.5 rpg, 4 apg, 2.5 spg, 1.8 bpg and 53% from 3 on 8.5 3PA a game. Meanwhile Ayton is on the long drug suspension.

Right now no, but if they were looking to trade him a package that included Ayton, perhaps one of Bridges or Cam Johnson, and a couple of 1st is probably the best offer they could see. Obviously any trade for Towns and the Wolves aren't going to get fair value, but that's just the way trades work in the NBA.

[spanishninja]

Only trade I would consider is DeAndre Ayton, Ty Johnson for Karl Anthony Towns.

Dammit Qwigglez, why'd you have to go and make me all conflicted right now?

Don't feel THAT conflicted. Minnesota wouldn't entertain trading Towns...he's upped his game another level. I know it's only 4 games but 27.3 ppg, 11.5 rpg, 4 apg, 2.5 spg, 1.8 bpg and 53% from 3 on 8.5 3PA a game. Meanwhile Ayton is on the long drug suspension.

KAT's a great example of what happens when a guy does everything he can to make himself a better player, even with clear flaws when he first came into the league.

[Saberestar]

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He is good enough to be in the NBA, but he is a headcase.

Good to know that we don't want to deal with that.

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[bwgood77]

[bwgood77]

Note that after the Grizzlies, we play the two teams with the highest SRS. Those will be TOUGH TOUGH games. Of course Embiid being out will help, though I would have loved to see Baynes go against him. Miami will likely end up the tougher game though.

[NavLDO]

We are already talking about silly trades, we need continuity let's enjoy this for awhile before we start rosterbating...

Completely agree! We are playing better than any team we've had in the last decade...and that includes Nash's last 2 seasons here...why on earth would we want to change anything! It's not always 'perceived talent level' that wins games...it's the right mix of players/talent, and depth...and we have that right now, especially once Ayton returns...

We have potentially, 8 starter-level talent players on the roster, IMO; we have incredible depth at PG, especially once Jerome is healthy, and I'd argue, every other position, as well, once Ayton returns.

If we continue on this pace...roughly a 49-33 record pace, why would we want to change that, unless our hand is forced in the off-season by FA, to get what...possibly a perceived 'bigger-name' player?? That doesn't always...wait, check that...that almost always fails to workout for us in recent years. how about we just enjoy the ride, as long as it lasts. And if somehow, this was all just a 'mirage', and this squad starts to flounder, then sure, let's 'rosterbate' then, but until then, let's 'build' some great players, instead of trying to go out and 'buy' one. As has been noted, we have, what, 12? 13? guys under the age of 28??? Who is to say that Cam, or Jerome, or Bridges can't be developed into star players.

[javilugar]

We are already talking about silly trades, we need continuity let's enjoy this for awhile before we start rosterbating...

Completely agree! We are playing better than any team we've had in the last decade...and that includes Nash's last 2 seasons here...why on earth would we want to change anything! It's not always 'perceived talent level' that wins games...it's the rigth mix of players/talent, and depth...and we have that right now, especially once Ayton returns...

We have potentially, 8 starter-level talent players ont he roster, IMO; we have incredible depth at PG, especially once Jerome is healthy, and I'd argue, every other position, as well, once Ayton returns.

If we continue on this pace...roughly a 49-33 record pace, why would we want to change that, unless our hand is forced in the off-season by FA, to get what...possibly a perceived 'bigger-name' player?? That doesn't always...wait, check that...that almost always fails to workout for us in recent years. how about we just enjoy the ride, as long as it lasts. And if somehow, this was all just a 'mirage', and this squad starts to flounder, then sure, let's 'rosterbate' then, but until then, let's 'build' some great players, instead of trying to go out and 'buy' one. As has been noted, we have, what, 12? 13? guys under the age of 28??? Who is to say that Cam, or Jerome, or Bridges can't be developed into star players.

Great great post

[sunsbg]

We are already talking about silly trades, we need continuity let's enjoy this for awhile before we start rosterbating...

Completely agree! We are playing better than any team we've had in the last decade...and that includes Nash's last 2 seasons here...why on earth would we want to change anything! It's not always 'perceived talent level' that wins games...it's the rigth mix of players/talent, and depth...and we have that right now, especially once Ayton returns...

We have potentially, 8 starter-level talent players ont he roster, IMO; we have incredible depth at PG, especially once Jerome is healthy, and I'd argue, every other position, as well, once Ayton returns.

If we continue on this pace...roughly a 49-33 record pace, why would we want to change that, unless our hand is forced in the off-season by FA, to get what...possibly a perceived 'bigger-name' player?? That doesn't always...wait, check that...that almost always fails to workout for us in recent years. how about we just enjoy the ride, as long as it lasts. And if somehow, this was all just a 'mirage', and this squad starts to flounder, then sure, let's 'rosterbate' then, but until then, let's 'build' some great players, instead of trying to go out and 'buy' one. As has been noted, we have, what, 12? 13? guys under the age of 28??? Who is to say that Cam, or Jerome, or Bridges can't be developed into star players.

Great great post

Great indeed.

[Wilber85]

Why would we trade ayton? Lol this team is awesome, deep, and when ayton is back , we are deeper

[Qwigglez]

Why would we trade ayton? Lol this team is awesome, deep, and when ayton is back , we are deeper

Wasn't suggesting it, was simply making the comment that the only trade I would make is Ayton for KAT. I am really enjoying the entire team this year, sure Kaminsky/Saric have an off-game every other game, Oubre isn't ultra consistent, and Bridges offense is really bad, but all in all the team is giving an effort out there that I haven't seen in a long time. I wouldn't want to disrupt any kind of chemistry we have going on.

[DRK]

Hard for Monty to preach “family” and “unity” if players on the team dont feel secure as a Sun. Chemistry is great now, it would be a McD move to trade someone at the deadline for a slight upgrade while ruining chemistry in the process

[timetoshinebaby]

I think we won't do anything drastic until the deadline. Basically, we need to keep this group together and integrate Ayton. Let's see how that pans out. See who continues to grow and who begins to slide.

I see us making a move for a disgruntled star but not sure who. I think Bowers is that type of guy and it's whether we are in the right spot. Now, I don't know who id want but as the season progresses and becomes more clear, I think we are a big chance to be opportunistic.

[Qwigglez]

Jeff Bower was a part of the Pistons front office that traded for Blake Griffin, just saying, he isn't shy to make bold moves.

Another interesting trade target could be Jrue Holiday who isn't playing very well with the new-look Pelicans. Could see the Sixers making a play for him if he becomes available.

[timetoshinebaby]

Jeff Bower was a part of the Pistons front office that traded for Blake Griffin, just saying.

Correct. That's why I think it will happen. I just think we will wait till closer to the deadline to see things open up.

[Bogyo]

Hard for Monty to preach “family” and “unity” if players on the team dont feel secure as a Sun. Chemistry is great now, it would be a McD move to trade someone at the deadline for a slight upgrade while ruining chemistry in the process

True.

That said, I'm not sure how we would be able to sign anybody in FA if we just let T Johnson expire and we want to re-sign our other guys, who will likely be more expensive after a good season.(I m no capologist).
Also - while I enjoy the hell out of this run, the aim is the whole enchillada, and this group ain't doing that.


Others: keep it going boys, if we are .500 after 10 games (or .600) we have a somewhat legit shot at the Playoffs, Collins just got sidelined for 3 months, and the Blazers were thin to begin with up front. If most of these trends keep up, I feel like there are about 3 spots up for grabs in the west after LAL, LAC, DEN, UTA, HOU. Tough crowd of POR, SAS, DAL, MIN, PHO, but thats "only" 5 teams with us being one of the legit ones - I still have MIN as the weakest, no matter how great (MVP?) Towns is, that team is a bit like last years Suns, with only 3-4 NBA players after him (one of them is Wiggins), so they should come back to earth.

[sunsbg]

Hard for Monty to preach “family” and “unity” if players on the team dont feel secure as a Sun. Chemistry is great now, it would be a McD move to trade someone at the deadline for a slight upgrade while ruining chemistry in the process

True.

That said, I'm not sure how we would be able to sign anybody in FA if we just let T Johnson expire and we want to re-sign our other guys, who will likely be more expensive after a good season.(I m no capologist).
Also - while I enjoy the hell out of this run, the aim is the whole enchillada, and this group ain't doing that.


Others: keep it going boys, if we are .500 after 10 games (or .600) we have a somewhat legit shot at the Playoffs, Collins just got sidelined for 3 months, and the Blazers were thin to begin with up front. If most of these trends keep up, I feel like there are about 3 spots up for grabs in the west after LAL, LAC, DEN, UTA, HOU. Tough crowd of POR, SAS, DAL, MIN, PHO, but thats "only" 5 teams with us being one of the legit ones - I still have MIN as the weakest, no matter how great (MVP?) Towns is, that team is a bit like last years Suns, with only 3-4 NBA players after him (one of them is Wiggins), so they should come back to earth.

53 bench points last night and a big win without Towns. Don't look to me like the Suns from last year to be honest.

The fight for that 8th spot is going to be epic.

[Bogyo]

Jeff Bower was a part of the Pistons front office that traded for Blake Griffin, just saying.

Correct. That's why I think it will happen. I just think we will wait till closer to the deadline to see things open up.

Just not sure how we are sending out about 29 mill to match salaries. TJo is "only" 19 and we don't really have anybody else in the 10+region, only the 4-5mill, which would take 2 more (relatively expensive contract for us) to make it work. That pretty much only works if we send out Baynes and Bridges. Or TJo+Kelly when he becomes tradeable. Not sure I would want to do either of that.

[Bogyo]

Hard for Monty to preach “family” and “unity” if players on the team dont feel secure as a Sun. Chemistry is great now, it would be a McD move to trade someone at the deadline for a slight upgrade while ruining chemistry in the process

True.

That said, I'm not sure how we would be able to sign anybody in FA if we just let T Johnson expire and we want to re-sign our other guys, who will likely be more expensive after a good season.(I m no capologist).
Also - while I enjoy the hell out of this run, the aim is the whole enchillada, and this group ain't doing that.


Others: keep it going boys, if we are .500 after 10 games (or .600) we have a somewhat legit shot at the Playoffs, Collins just got sidelined for 3 months, and the Blazers were thin to begin with up front. If most of these trends keep up, I feel like there are about 3 spots up for grabs in the west after LAL, LAC, DEN, UTA, HOU. Tough crowd of POR, SAS, DAL, MIN, PHO, but thats "only" 5 teams with us being one of the legit ones - I still have MIN as the weakest, no matter how great (MVP?) Towns is, that team is a bit like last years Suns, with only 3-4 NBA players after him (one of them is Wiggins), so they should come back to earth.

53 bench points last night and a big win without Towns. Don't look to me like the Suns from last year to be honest.

The fight for that 8th spot is going to be epic.

Yeah, we only had about 3-5 NBA players after Book last year, but 2 of them were rookies or injured. TJo and Kelly only after trades, and injured after that. Granted, they might not have injuries to 2 of their NBA caliber guys, then they are a 30 something win team, which we could have been with TJo and Kelly playing healthy for us.

But yeah, the fight for the 8th seed will be epic, LAL visiting us last night, LAC going to Portland
(Get ready for heartbreak Suns fans )

[bwgood77]

New standings and SRS. Dropped in SRS after an easier opponent, but now tied for the 3 seed (make that 4th seed...I guess SA, even though listed below because of weaker SRS which I sorted by, is tied for the 1 seed). Next two opponents leading by quite a bit in SRS.