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Re: NBA Draft 2024 

Post#1041 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:29 pm

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Both guys appear to bring good energy. Whether they turn any good is yet to be seen.

Defense, athleticism and energy.

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All things GoK was preaching for some time. Jones taking lessons finally. :wink:


That guy is an old Celtics/trade board mod who, well, never mind.
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Re: NBA Draft 2024 

Post#1042 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:30 pm

SkyBill40 wrote:Damn it. We had our chance and as usual, Jones dribbles the ball off his foot and out of bounds.


The Brandon Knight of drafting? j/k these were great picks.
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Re: NBA Draft 2024 

Post#1043 » by Revived » Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:32 pm

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Saberestar wrote:Well, like I said Thybulle isn't a good comparison because he can't be used as a cutter or in the dunker spot because he can't finish at the rim with authority like Ryan Dunn.

At 6'5 Thybulle would need to score over 40% from three to be solid on offense because he isn't a lob threat or a crazy finisher in transition.

I want to give you an example...Derrick Jones Jr doesn't "need" to be that good at the 3p line to be useful on offense because he adds other stuff to his team with his athleticism, height and length.

Was Derrick Jones Jr a first round pick?

He was undrafted, every player has his own path.

Herb Jones was #35 and OG Anunoby was #23, so you can say that Dunn being picked at #28 makes a lot of sense taking into account his NBA comparisons.

OG had more offensive talent than Dunn did coming into the league. Herb Jones is a very rare exception.
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Re: NBA Draft 2024 

Post#1044 » by Revived » Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:34 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
sunsbg wrote:
Saberestar wrote:Defense, athleticism and energy.

Read on Twitter


All things GoK was preaching for some time. Jones taking lessons finally. :wink:


That guy is an old Celtics/trade board mod who, well, never mind.

Was he wrong more often than not?
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Re: NBA Draft 2024 

Post#1045 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:39 pm

Lets be real though. None of us know what these guys will do or how good of pros they will be. We have not picked a player past 27 that did anything for us since Dragic in 2008. Before that it was Ceballos in 1990. So 2 guys in 35 years. We took Bogdanovic at 27 but he never played for us.

So as far as immediate contributors for us, aside from Dragic, we haven't actually taken a guy who contributed for us the next season after pick 21 (we took Finley in 95 AT 21).

So to expect much here as we probably do every year with all our picks, especially in a bad draft, is a stretch.

Obviously a lot of guys, including the MVP, get drafted in the 2nd round.

So of course it's possible we hit on both. Siakam was drafted like 27th. Brunson, Brodgon, and Herb Jones in the 30s. Dejounte Murray at like 28.
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Re: NBA Draft 2024 

Post#1046 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:40 pm

Revived wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
sunsbg wrote:
All things GoK was preaching for some time. Jones taking lessons finally. :wink:


That guy is an old Celtics/trade board mod who, well, never mind.

Was he wrong more often than not?


He wasn't some draft or prospect expert. He just wanted to be a writer. I never valued his opinion highly. I think he made a post here analyzing our pick like 5 years ago or something. HIs name was like Smitty731 He may have actually started the thread.
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Re: NBA Draft 2024 

Post#1047 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:44 pm

Revived wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
sunsbg wrote:
All things GoK was preaching for some time. Jones taking lessons finally. :wink:


That guy is an old Celtics/trade board mod who, well, never mind.

Was he wrong more often than not?


Oh yeah, his calling card/expertise was with the cap. He used to make some huge google sheet with everyone's cap space, etc...

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1493831&p=51102952&hilit=smitty731#p50182723
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Re: NBA Draft 2024 

Post#1048 » by Revived » Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:56 pm

I like the Oso Ighodaro pick more than Dunn. Seems like a high reward/high risk pick but it actually fills a position of need. This is all based on what people here and other social media sites have said, I haven’t watched any college basketball this year. But I take outsiders opinions especially this forum to be FAR greater than James Jones and Matt Ishbia’s decisions.

Best case scenario, he can be like Derick Lively for the Mavs.

On another note, Knicks have one hell of a front office and are doing things the right way even with a crappy owner. Kolek is gonna be perfect for them to spell Brunson and give them a floor general at all times. Bridges fits in perfectly.

Funny how Dolan had reputation as a bad owner but finally put things together after learning to back off and let the basketball people handle basketball.
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Re: NBA Draft 2024 

Post#1049 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:59 pm

Here are the best available to sign as undrafted free agents according to Givony. Keshad Johnson was kind of fun to watch at times. The Kentucky guy was pretty raw and inconsistent. We might go for a PG or guy with more experience...but getting any of them would probably be good..to make roster or G league. You can get more detailed breakdown of them by clicking on them (the dropdown on the right) here: https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable

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Re: NBA Draft 2024 

Post#1050 » by Revived » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:02 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Revived wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
That guy is an old Celtics/trade board mod who, well, never mind.

Was he wrong more often than not?


He wasn't some draft or prospect expert. He just wanted to be a writer. I never valued his opinion highly. I think he made a post here analyzing our pick like 5 years ago or something. HIs name was like Smitty731 He may have actually started the thread.

Ohh yeah i remember him. He used to have GoK level posts back in the day.
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Re: NBA Draft 2024 

Post#1051 » by Mr Puddles » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:11 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Revived wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
That guy is an old Celtics/trade board mod who, well, never mind.

Was he wrong more often than not?


He wasn't some draft or prospect expert. He just wanted to be a writer. I never valued his opinion highly. I think he made a post here analyzing our pick like 5 years ago or something. HIs name was like Smitty731 He may have actually started the thread.


Detective Puddles on the job, I think this is the post you're referring to:

http://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/245576/2017-NBA-Offseason-Preview-Phoenix-Suns

There isn't much analysis in this post to be honest, he's referring to Chriss' floor as a solid starter, and overrates Ball and Fultz - but that's understandable given their projected status as top lottery picks. The rest of the article is mostly just a summary of the previous season.
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Re: NBA Draft 2024 

Post#1052 » by Ghost of Kleine » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:13 pm

So now that the draft is finally over, for our (3 allowed) two-way contracts, WE NEED TO AGGRESSIVELY SIGN:

1- Zyon Pullin.
Consummate poised floor general. A mix of Tyus Jones/ Malcolm Brogdon. Shot 44% from three and 84% from the FT line.


2- Nae'qwan Tomlin.
6'10 jumbo wing/ Forward. Shot 39% from three. An explosively athletic, very smooth and multipositional two-way forward with very high ceiling. Tomlin is an uber talented mix of Jaden McDaniels/ Naz Reid.


3- Blake hinson or Mantas Rubstavicius.

Hinson-
Blake is a rugged, physical, athletic SG/ SF that is an elite floor spacing 3 point specialist that is a mix of Saddiq Bey/ pre-injury Tony Warren. Hinson shot over 42% from three on 11 attempts per game!!

Mantas-
A 6'9 very smooth Lithuanian jumbo wing prospect that shot over 42% from three, 84% from the FT line and had/ has an absurd 66% TS percentage. Mantas also is a 6'9 mix of Luke Kennard/ Peja stojakovic. He's a very high IQ cerebral gunner!!

*** BONUS OPTION ****
Drew Pember-
A 6'11 very skilled, very polished " do it all" extremely smooth two way multi positional two way forward that can dribble, pass, shoot, defend, block shots, rebound, run an offense.
Pember shot 36% from three, 84% from the FT line, and averaged around 3.5 assists/ 2 blocks / and 1 steal. His PER 40 numbers were: 27 points/ 10 rebounds/ 4.7 assists/ 1.3 steals/ 2.5 blocks.

Pember is a 6'11 very smooth, extremely versatile swiss army knife version of Austin Reeves!!!

Jamal Shead-
A 6'1 extremely tough, strong, physical very poised elite defensive playmaking floor general with clutch shotmaking. Shead is a mix of a stronger, more physical relentless Jose Alvarado/ Jalen Brunson leadership and clutch shooting.
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Re: NBA Draft 2024 

Post#1053 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:18 pm

Mr Puddles wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Revived wrote:Was he wrong more often than not?


He wasn't some draft or prospect expert. He just wanted to be a writer. I never valued his opinion highly. I think he made a post here analyzing our pick like 5 years ago or something. HIs name was like Smitty731 He may have actually started the thread.


Detective Puddles on the job, I think this is the post you're referring to:

http://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/245576/2017-NBA-Offseason-Preview-Phoenix-Suns

There isn't much analysis in this post to be honest, he's regering to Chriss' floor as a solid starter, and overrates Ball and Fultz - but that's understandable given their projected status as top lottery picks. The rest of the article is mostly just a summary of the previous season.


Oh yeah, I know he writes for realgm too...I was talking about posting on our forum. He was also a mod on the trade forum and I think before that the Celtics forum. He's a Celtics fan.
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Re: NBA Draft 2024 

Post#1054 » by sunskerr » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:18 pm

Heard we signed Jaylin Bridges (2 way) on reddit

Annoyed but kinda find it funny OKC got Ajay Mitchell.
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Re: NBA Draft 2024 

Post#1055 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:19 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:So now that the draft is finally over, for our (3 allowed) two-way contracts, WE NEED TO AGGRESSIVELY SIGN:

1- Zyon Pullin.
Consummate poised floor general. A mix of Tyus Jones/ Malcolm Brogdon. Shot 44% from three and 84% from the FT line.


2- Nae'qwan Tomlin.
6'10 jumbo wing/ Forward. Shot 39% from three. An explosively athletic, very smooth and multipositional two-way forward with very high ceiling. Tomlin is an uber talented mix of Jaden McDaniels/ Naz Reid.


3- Blake hinson or Mantas Rubstavicius.

Hinson-
Blake is a rugged, physical, athletic SG/ SF that is an elite floor spacing 3 point specialist that is a mix of Saddiq Bey/ pre-injury Tony Warren. Hinson shot over 42% from three on 11 attempts per game!!

Mantas-
A 6'9 very smooth Lithuanian jumbo wing prospect that shot over 42% from three, 84% from the FT line and had/ has an absurd 66% TS percentage. Mantas also is a 6'9 mix of Luke Kennard/ Peja stojakovic. He's a very high IQ cerebral gunner!!

*** BONUS OPTION ****
Drew Pember-
A 6'11 very skilled, very polished " do it all" extremely smooth two way multi positional two way forward that can dribble, pass, shoot, defend, block shots, rebound, run an offense.
Pember shot 36% from three, 84% from the FT line, and averaged around 3.5 assists/ 2 blocks / and 1 steal. His PER 40 numbers were: 27 points/ 10 rebounds/ 4.7 assists/ 1.3 steals/ 2.5 blocks.

Pember is a 6'11 very smooth, extremely versatile swiss army knife version of Austin Reeves!!!

Jamal Shead-
A 6'1 extremely tough, strong, physical very poised elite defensive playmaking floor general with clutch shotmaking. Shead is a mix of a stronger, more physical relentless Jose Alvarado/ Jalen Brunson leadership and clutch shooting.


Shead was drafted at 45

We need a ball handling guard badly. With Gordon gone, honestly, who are our bench guards? I hope we sign Alexander or Beekman.
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Post#1056 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:21 pm

sunskerr wrote:Heard we signed Jaylin Bridges (2 way) on reddit

Annoyed but kinda find it funny OKC got Ajay Mitchell.


He could get playing time just because he can shoot/spread the floor (42% 3 pt shooter) and defend fairly well (6'10 wingspan).
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Post#1057 » by thamadkant » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:30 pm

Sorry but unless the 2nd round pick is a big, unathletic, but skilled high IQ European, or a guard with forward size and last name ending with vic or cic... it's very very hard to get excited

97% chance the suns draftees are free agents next off season or 60% chance they get cut by November this year.
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Re: NBA Draft 2024 

Post#1058 » by Ghost of Kleine » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:45 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:So now that the draft is finally over, for our (3 allowed) two-way contracts, WE NEED TO AGGRESSIVELY SIGN:

1- Zyon Pullin.
Consummate poised floor general. A mix of Tyus Jones/ Malcolm Brogdon. Shot 44% from three and 84% from the FT line.


2- Nae'qwan Tomlin.
6'10 jumbo wing/ Forward. Shot 39% from three. An explosively athletic, very smooth and multipositional two-way forward with very high ceiling. Tomlin is an uber talented mix of Jaden McDaniels/ Naz Reid.


3- Blake hinson or Mantas Rubstavicius.

Hinson-
Blake is a rugged, physical, athletic SG/ SF that is an elite floor spacing 3 point specialist that is a mix of Saddiq Bey/ pre-injury Tony Warren. Hinson shot over 42% from three on 11 attempts per game!!

Mantas-
A 6'9 very smooth Lithuanian jumbo wing prospect that shot over 42% from three, 84% from the FT line and had/ has an absurd 66% TS percentage. Mantas also is a 6'9 mix of Luke Kennard/ Peja stojakovic. He's a very high IQ cerebral gunner!!

*** BONUS OPTION ****
Drew Pember-
A 6'11 very skilled, very polished " do it all" extremely smooth two way multi positional two way forward that can dribble, pass, shoot, defend, block shots, rebound, run an offense.
Pember shot 36% from three, 84% from the FT line, and averaged around 3.5 assists/ 2 blocks / and 1 steal. His PER 40 numbers were: 27 points/ 10 rebounds/ 4.7 assists/ 1.3 steals/ 2.5 blocks.

Pember is a 6'11 very smooth, extremely versatile swiss army knife version of Austin Reeves!!!

Jamal Shead-
A 6'1 extremely tough, strong, physical very poised elite defensive playmaking floor general with clutch shotmaking. Shead is a mix of a stronger, more physical relentless Jose Alvarado/ Jalen Brunson leadership and clutch shooting.


Shead was drafted at 45

We need a ball handling guard badly. With Gordon gone, honestly, who are our bench guards? I hope we sign Alexander or Beekman.


Oh yeah, forgot! The Raptors got a great Van Vleet type defensive replacement in Shead their. Still, I'm intrigued by Reece Beekman in his stead now that he's gone too. Beekman although also not a great shooter, is a phenomenal POA defender and a very solid, always making heady plays, is an elite disruptive player in the passing lanes, and is a poised playmaking floor general type of guard that has a connection to Dunn and reminds me somewhat of Chris Duhon honestly.

But I wouldn't put him above my top 3 remaining point guards on my list now.
1- Zyon Pullin.
2- Judah Mintz.
3- Ta'lon Cooper.
4- Reece Beekman.
5- Tamin Lipsey.
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Re: NBA Draft 2024 

Post#1059 » by Qwigglez » Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:18 am

Umm... Jalen Bridges got a really quick trigger.



Kinda shoots like Marion and Childress :lol:
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Re: NBA Draft 2024 

Post#1060 » by Slim Charless » Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:29 am

I wouldn't complain about Reese Beekman

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