2019 season speculation including trade ideas

[Qwigglez]

Wow, discounting our players and hyping up other team's players.

I knew that was to get stuck in your craw.

Just a little of the pot calling the kettle black.

Wasn't really suggesting I want to trade for Blake Griffin in this instance, I was just pointing out how to make the trade work financially. I like the way our team is setup this year, having a lot of depth everywhere and all the players are really likable. Blake Griffin finally had a decent year last year where he wasn't injured for 20% of the time playing in 75 games. However, I'm not sure I'd commit big time money for a player that is as injury prone as Blake Griffin is.

[Jorgeglez7]

I knew that was to get stuck in your craw.

Just a little of the pot calling the kettle black.

Wasn't really suggesting I want to trade for Blake Griffin in this instance, I was just pointing out how to make the trade work financially. I like the way our team is setup this year, having a lot of depth everywhere and all the players are really likable. Blake Griffin finally had a decent year last year where he wasn't injured for 20% of the time playing in 75 games. However, I'm not sure I'd commit big time money for a player that is as injury prone as Blake Griffin is.

In my opinion, trading for anyone would be a mistake right now . You don't know the ceiling of a team when: first, most of the players are very young and still developing and second: the team is almost brand new.

We're experimenting a beautiful beginning of the season, and it's true that it can fall down, but there is even more chances of keeping it this way or even improving. Remember we're doing this without Ayton, and it's clear to me that the chemistry is still not close to 100%.

Taking this into account, any major move produced before the offseason would be a serious mistake.

Anyway I have to say that I'm kind of resistant to change myself. For example, I think that what Brooklyn did this offseason, even being something you just couldn't let go, was a BIG mistake. Moreover, it can ruin Russell career. We'll see.

[bwgood77]

I knew that was to get stuck in your craw.

Just a little of the pot calling the kettle black.

Wasn't really suggesting I want to trade for Blake Griffin in this instance, I was just pointing out how to make the trade work financially. I like the way our team is setup this year, having a lot of depth everywhere and all the players are really likable. Blake Griffin finally had a decent year last year where he wasn't injured for 20% of the time playing in 75 games. However, I'm not sure I'd commit big time money for a player that is as injury prone as Blake Griffin is.

I was just joking. I definitely wouldn't want Blake Griffin. I want to see more of Dario to know if/how much I'd want to commit to him, but he's 5 years younger and a lot cheaper and less injury prone. I like Kaminsky too...he's a little older at 26, but they are a decent pair. I would like to draft a 3D blocker type though for the future to put in development.

But I like our team right now too. No need to make changes. Chemistry is good.

[spanishninja]

scumbag espn has us at #17 on the power rankings, behind Indiana. never change, espn

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scumbag espn has us at #17 on the power rankings, behind Indiana. never change, espn

In the explanation They couldn’t mention any of our team stats like best point differential or top10 offense and defense...or their ranking would have looked stupid.

[bwgood77]

scumbag espn has us at #17 on the power rankings, behind Indiana. never change, espn

In the explanation They couldn’t mention any of our team stats like best point differential or top10 offense and defense...or their ranking would have looked stupid.

If we win our next 3 we should move up. I've mentioned Philly will be a tough test but I actually think Miami will be tougher. They are deep, play hard nosed defense and just seem to be very tough.

[hollywood6964]

scumbag espn has us at #17 on the power rankings, behind Indiana. never change, espn

In the explanation They couldn’t mention any of our team stats like best point differential or top10 offense and defense...or their ranking would have looked stupid.

If we win our next 3 we should move up. I've mentioned Philly will be a tough test but I actually think Miami will be tougher. They are deep, play hard nosed defense and just seem to be very tough.

Yeah they seem tough. They trashed Houston last night, and look to be on a roll. I think they're at full strength? They just seem to be clicking.

[Bogyo]

It's certainly too early to be talking trades especially with how well we've played, how good the chemistry is and Ayton having only played one game.

But then with Tyler as a $19m expiring, I feel like it might be the last time we'll be able to bring in a player that could really help take the team to another level.

THIS is the only reason why I even thought about trading. Results are great, chemistry seems to be fine - BUT will we be able to sign (or trade for) anybody meaningful if we just let Tyler expire?

[bwgood77]

In the explanation They couldn’t mention any of our team stats like best point differential or top10 offense and defense...or their ranking would have looked stupid.

If we win our next 3 we should move up. I've mentioned Philly will be a tough test but I actually think Miami will be tougher. They are deep, play hard nosed defense and just seem to be very tough.

Yeah they seem tough. They trashed Houston last night, and look to be on a roll. I think they're at full strength? They just seem to be clicking.

Justise Winslow didn't play in one of their recent huge wins, and Butler missed a few games earlier when they were killing teams.

[Jorgeglez7]

scumbag espn has us at #17 on the power rankings, behind Indiana. never change, espn

In the explanation They couldn’t mention any of our team stats like best point differential or top10 offense and defense...or their ranking would have looked stupid.

If we win our next 3 we should move up. I've mentioned Philly will be a tough test but I actually think Miami will be tougher. They are deep, play hard nosed defense and just seem to be very tough.

Philly is nowadays the best team in the NBA even without Embiid. They are on a roll, experienced, with a lot of games together already, same coach for the last 5 years. Winning them should he a a nice signal of what are we going to be able to do this season. Right now I'm optimistic.

Regarding Miami, I don't get fooled about their fast start, Spo is Spo, and you can never underrate him. Their roster is young, plays with passion and they have quality. Dragic of the Bench to lead second unit, a mature Winslow unleashing his true nature and Butler leading the team are good ingredients to complete a deep playoffs season. But what is really making the difference for them is the three wild cards Duncan Robinson, Tyler Herro and Kendrick Nunn. They are good and play under control, but we have the weapons to stop them. Rubio and Oubre are great perimeter defenders and Mikal Bridges can become the new boyfriend of Tyler Herro (as he is now playing as 6th man for the heat, giving great results).

If we are able to stop these guys it will be Butler against the world, and with our now diverse offensive skillset we can really win that game.

Oh god is nice to say these things about Phoenix.

[GDFTony]

Getting Ayton back will be like making a big trade halfway through the season. I just hope he's got a great mindset and comes out hungry and ready to prove himself again. Love Aaron Baynes, we're so lucky to have him.

Only trade I would consider now is for Galinari but even that, I'm not sure who I'm comfortable with giving up. The chemistry is great do we want to screw that up?

[Qwigglez]

Only reason I think a trade could happen is because of the long-term outlook. T.Johnson is a free agent this summer so it's probably a better idea to use his expiring contract for another player that is inked long-term that a team may way to get rid of. Of course, if Johnson is fine with the role he has, and doesn't might a severe paycut then I'm open to the idea of keeping him around. Our team is still likely one of the youngest teams around, and they should only improve. I like the idea of internal growth, but my main worry is players leaving because either we didn't offer them enough money or they don't see themselves getting the playing time they want.

Our oldest players are Rubio and Baynes, the rest of our guys won't hit their peak performance for another 3-4 years. If we are able to make the playoffs this year, and then keep our same guys around, this team could be a nightmare for the league.

[Qwigglez]

Just a little of the pot calling the kettle black.

Wasn't really suggesting I want to trade for Blake Griffin in this instance, I was just pointing out how to make the trade work financially. I like the way our team is setup this year, having a lot of depth everywhere and all the players are really likable. Blake Griffin finally had a decent year last year where he wasn't injured for 20% of the time playing in 75 games. However, I'm not sure I'd commit big time money for a player that is as injury prone as Blake Griffin is.

I was just joking. I definitely wouldn't want Blake Griffin. I want to see more of Dario to know if/how much I'd want to commit to him, but he's 5 years younger and a lot cheaper and less injury prone. I like Kaminsky too...he's a little older at 26, but they are a decent pair. I would like to draft a 3D blocker type though for the future to put in development.

But I like our team right now too. No need to make changes. Chemistry is good.

On paper I like Dario a lot. A versatile Euro big man that can pass, shoot, and drive. My biggest gripe about him is his awful shooting form. I can never tell if his shot is going in. Also, I didn't realize both him and Kaminsky are shooting around 40% from the field.

[Qwigglez]

Latest poll results...

Biggest surprise to start the season

Spoiler:

[sunsbum]

Trading Tyler would be a big mistake. We are only 6 games into the season with half a roster of new faces and are playing awesome but we haven't even gelled yet! In my opinion we have THE deepest team in the league and Tyler is a big part of that. (Just wait untill Booker inevitably misses some time) If we don't trade him we can sign him to a great price next year and use some of his money to resign one of our other guys.

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[WeekapaugGroove]

https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nba/2019/11/4/20944001/phoenix-suns-how-are-they-good?__twitter_impression=true

Good article on how the suns are playing schematically.

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[lilfishi22]

https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nba/2019/11/4/20944001/phoenix-suns-how-are-they-good?__twitter_impression=true

Good article on how the suns are playing schematically.

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Superb read

I was actually looking for these stats before this article. It passed the eye test but I wanted to know whether my eyes were fooling me and it doesn't look like it has

Rubio also takes a huge burden off Booker, who has responded by channeling more energy into defense and reading the floor. His scoring is down, but he’s getting better shots and moving the ball more effectively when a shot isn’t there. He’s launching more often within a normal flow of the offense and less often when the shot clock is winding down and he needs to bail the Suns out. Fifty-six of Booker’s buckets are assisted this season compared to just 36 last year, and more than 45 percent of his shots have come off one or zero dribbles this year, compared to just 34 percent last season.

Oubre passing highlight but also shows the gravity Baynes have created for himself leading to a wide open (assisted) Booker 3

[Crives]

https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nba/2019/11/4/20944001/phoenix-suns-how-are-they-good?__twitter_impression=true

Good article on how the suns are playing schematically.

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Hopefully the Sixers don’t get ahold of this article!

[lilfishi22]

It's certainly too early to be talking trades especially with how well we've played, how good the chemistry is and Ayton having only played one game.

But then with Tyler as a $19m expiring, I feel like it might be the last time we'll be able to bring in a player that could really help take the team to another level.

I just think the Suns are one move away from locking a playoff spot. Unfortunately, I can’t think of many players that make total sense right now for the Suns. You guys might be right with riding out our current roster. If Suns continue playing well, free agents would definitely be open with signing with Phoenix in the offseason - an upgraded arena, new practice court and Monty Williams, Suns are in a great spot going forward. Exciting times!!


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Yep right there with you.

If there was a guy that is likely available, made sense from a basketball standpoint, fits the core and wouldn't ruffle too many feathers (great chemistry currently), I'm all ears because TJ is a solid asset but I just can't think of who that might be.

I was thinking maybe Gallinari if we're right in the playoff mix. He's doesn't fit the core going forward but I've been a fan of his game and he's another floor raising type of player. He's also an expiring too so we'll need to sweeten the pot to get OKC to agree.