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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#1081 » by Mulhollanddrive » Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:04 am

Either way roster looks like a mess - If you're rebuilding there's only Booker as an above average prospect, if we're contending there's only Bledsoe as an above average starter.

However if you can get a 2nd (of whichever tactic we go with) you're suddenly almost there - Booker and Simmons as dual 19 year old All-Star talents or Bledsoe and Butler as dual 26 year old All-Stars (being generous).
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#1082 » by jcsunsfan » Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:26 am

DRK wrote:Knight just signed a huge contract. What does he have that makes him more tradable than Tyson Chandler?


That contract is going to look like a bargain this summer.
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Post#1083 » by jcsunsfan » Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:34 am

DRK wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:
DRK wrote:
Both players are much better players than Knight though.......


:noway:


As basketball players they are much more skilled.

Dragic is a starting point guard with All-NBA honours.

A motivated Markieff is in the upper half of PF's in the league. Elite midrange shooter, deceptively quick first step, and a great passer at his position. Just a flat out scorer of the ball, and not bad in D either.

Is there anything about Brandon Knight's game that you could say he is especially skilled at?
Shooting? Hes highly inefficient.
Defence? Average at best,
Ball handling? No
Distributing? :lol:
BBIQ: Non existent.

He lacks the qualities of being a high level player at his position.. (whatever they may be.)

Basketball wise, Dragic and Markieff are much better players.


Dude, Dragic was an impending free agent who said he was not going to resign. And to make a case that Kieff is a better player than BK is comical. Did you watch that performance Kieff put on for the first half of the year?
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#1084 » by Mulhollanddrive » Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:43 am

“We have a lot of young players. We want to try to stay competitive for the playoffs and hopefully make the playoffs next year, and I think the way for us to do that is to have a balance of some veteran guys, some mid-career guys and some young guys. We can’t be too skewed toward the younger end.”
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#1085 » by Damkac » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:04 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:“We have a lot of young players. We want to try to stay competitive for the playoffs and hopefully make the playoffs next year, and I think the way for us to do that is to have a balance of some veteran guys, some mid-career guys and some young guys. We can’t be too skewed toward the younger end.”

Some people never learn :nonono:
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#1086 » by asudevil » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:43 am

GoranTragic wrote:
asudevil wrote:IMO nothing will happen with Knight until we get to the tail end of the offseason, where 1 of 2 things happen.

a.) STUPID money gets handed out to average+ players, and teams realize that paying Knight is better than the alternative. He'll be traded for something of mild value, and we'll be happy.
b.) STUPID money gets handed out to average+ players, and WE realize that his contract isnt nearly as bad as some of the players are/will be getting. We become more than content with him coming off the bench making what he does.

After the craziness of the couple of weeks of the FA period, there will be teams desperate enough to make a deal. Brooklyn would be ideal. They have no incentive to lose, as they have no picks for a few years. They also have Brook/Young, and need a PG

Jack/RJH
for
Knight/Goodwin/#29

This clears some of the glut in the backcourt....and gives us a pass first PG. Additionally, because of the free space, Bogdan has more incentive to come from overseas.

Len/Chandler
#2??/Tele
Warren/RJH
Booker/Bogdan
Bledsoe/Jack


I would do that deal. I think you mean RHJ ;)


Of course. I dont suppose anyone would believe 2x typos in the same post...but its true. J&H are just so damn close to eachother.
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#1087 » by Mulhollanddrive » Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:39 am

The Front Office doesn't get it.

If it were up to them Booker would have averaged 10 minutes to learn from Brandon Knight this season.
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#1088 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:06 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:“We have a lot of young players. We want to try to stay competitive for the playoffs and hopefully make the playoffs next year, and I think the way for us to do that is to have a balance of some veteran guys, some mid-career guys and some young guys. We can’t be too skewed toward the younger end.”


This is just common sense, actually. Anyone here think TJ would benefit from adding Jaylen Brown to the roster?
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Post#1089 » by jcsunsfan » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:09 pm

Damkac wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:“We have a lot of young players. We want to try to stay competitive for the playoffs and hopefully make the playoffs next year, and I think the way for us to do that is to have a balance of some veteran guys, some mid-career guys and some young guys. We can’t be too skewed toward the younger end.”

Some people never learn :nonono:


Young players do not develop properly on a roster with all young players. What he is saying is exactly right.
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#1090 » by carey » Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:08 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:
DRK wrote:Knight just signed a huge contract. What does he have that makes him more tradable than Tyson Chandler?


That contract is going to look like a bargain this summer.


Yup. When the new 7yr player max is going to be $30M/yr that paltry $14M/yr locked up for 4 more years is pretty good. Still don't like Knight as a player but money wise he is fine.
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#1091 » by saintEscaton » Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:15 pm

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Mulhollanddrive wrote:“We have a lot of young players. We want to try to stay competitive for the playoffs and hopefully make the playoffs next year, and I think the way for us to do that is to have a balance of some veteran guys, some mid-career guys and some young guys. We can’t be too skewed toward the younger end.”


This is just common sense, actually. Anyone here think TJ would benefit from adding Jaylen Brown to the roster?


Yes that platoon would work, Jaylen could slide over to the small ball 4 where they would compliment each other well. You cant have a starting lineup where you have two unathletic wings with poor length who are total liabilities on the other end, thats a recipe for disaster when you don't have a DPOY caliber rim protector to pick up their slack. DOn't tell me Len fits that bill
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#1092 » by saintEscaton » Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:23 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:
Damkac wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:“We have a lot of young players. We want to try to stay competitive for the playoffs and hopefully make the playoffs next year, and I think the way for us to do that is to have a balance of some veteran guys, some mid-career guys and some young guys. We can’t be too skewed toward the younger end.”

Some people never learn :nonono:


Young players do not develop properly on a roster with all young players. What he is saying is exactly right.


I think this whole mentorship narrative is just an excuse for not wholeheartedly embracing the youth movement . When you have marginal journeymen and DLeaguers playing for contracts its taking away opportunities.
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#1093 » by jcsunsfan » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:18 pm

saintEscaton wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:
Damkac wrote:Some people never learn :nonono:


Young players do not develop properly on a roster with all young players. What he is saying is exactly right.


I think this whole mentorship narrative is just an excuse for not wholeheartedly embracing the youth movement . When you have marginal journeymen and DLeaguers playing for contracts its taking away opportunities.


Its not even about mentorship. Its just about have veteran leadership. The reason the Clippers were horrible forever in the 80's and 90's was because they never had the right mix on the roster. A roster that is all young players will never ever be good. It will stunt the development of those young players. It is not an excuse to avoid a youth movement at all. It is intended to make that movement effective.
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#1094 » by MrMiyagi » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:30 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:
Young players do not develop properly on a roster with all young players. What he is saying is exactly right.


I think this whole mentorship narrative is just an excuse for not wholeheartedly embracing the youth movement . When you have marginal journeymen and DLeaguers playing for contracts its taking away opportunities.


Its not even about mentorship. Its just about have veteran leadership. The reason the Clippers were horrible forever in the 80's and 90's was because they never had the right mix on the roster. A roster that is all young players will never ever be good. It will stunt the development of those young players. It is not an excuse to avoid a youth movement at all. It is intended to make that movement effective.

Also why Minnesota signed Kevin Garnett.
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#1095 » by saintEscaton » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:35 pm

MrMiyagi wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:
I think this whole mentorship narrative is just an excuse for not wholeheartedly embracing the youth movement . When you have marginal journeymen and DLeaguers playing for contracts its taking away opportunities.


Its not even about mentorship. Its just about have veteran leadership. The reason the Clippers were horrible forever in the 80's and 90's was because they never had the right mix on the roster. A roster that is all young players will never ever be good. It will stunt the development of those young players. It is not an excuse to avoid a youth movement at all. It is intended to make that movement effective.

Also why Minnesota signed Kevin Garnett.


KG is invested in that franchise longterm and will likely become a minority owner soon. Whereas Tyson is a ring chasing bum who just wants to cash in on his last paycheck
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#1096 » by bwgood77 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:46 pm

MrMiyagi wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:
I think this whole mentorship narrative is just an excuse for not wholeheartedly embracing the youth movement . When you have marginal journeymen and DLeaguers playing for contracts its taking away opportunities.


Its not even about mentorship. Its just about have veteran leadership. The reason the Clippers were horrible forever in the 80's and 90's was because they never had the right mix on the roster. A roster that is all young players will never ever be good. It will stunt the development of those young players. It is not an excuse to avoid a youth movement at all. It is intended to make that movement effective.

Also why Minnesota signed Kevin Garnett.


And why OKC signed the great Earl Watson when Westbrook was a rookie and Durant a 2nd year guy.
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#1097 » by MrMiyagi » Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:04 pm

saintEscaton wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:
Its not even about mentorship. Its just about have veteran leadership. The reason the Clippers were horrible forever in the 80's and 90's was because they never had the right mix on the roster. A roster that is all young players will never ever be good. It will stunt the development of those young players. It is not an excuse to avoid a youth movement at all. It is intended to make that movement effective.

Also why Minnesota signed Kevin Garnett.


KG is invested in that franchise longterm and will likely become a minority owner soon. Whereas Tyson is a ring chasing bum who just wants to cash in on his last paycheck

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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#1098 » by bwgood77 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:12 pm

saintEscaton wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:
Its not even about mentorship. Its just about have veteran leadership. The reason the Clippers were horrible forever in the 80's and 90's was because they never had the right mix on the roster. A roster that is all young players will never ever be good. It will stunt the development of those young players. It is not an excuse to avoid a youth movement at all. It is intended to make that movement effective.

Also why Minnesota signed Kevin Garnett.


KG is invested in that franchise longterm and will likely become a minority owner soon. Whereas Tyson is a ring chasing bum who just wants to cash in on his last paycheck


I wonder why he signed with the Suns if he was a ring chasing bum. Maybe the cashing in on the last paycheck part is right.
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#1099 » by jcsunsfan » Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:50 pm

saintEscaton wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:
Its not even about mentorship. Its just about have veteran leadership. The reason the Clippers were horrible forever in the 80's and 90's was because they never had the right mix on the roster. A roster that is all young players will never ever be good. It will stunt the development of those young players. It is not an excuse to avoid a youth movement at all. It is intended to make that movement effective.

Also why Minnesota signed Kevin Garnett.


KG is invested in that franchise longterm and will likely become a minority owner soon. Whereas Tyson is a ring chasing bum who just wants to cash in on his last paycheck


Let's see. He signed with the Suns to chase a ring? He is bringining everyone to his house in California this summer to work out because he only wants a paycheck? Does not compute.
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#1100 » by Mulhollanddrive » Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:16 am

I wonder if Dallas / Memphis fans rather get swept or get a top 5 pick.

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