2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 4 - Trade season continues - No player trade restrictions

[Mulhollanddrive]

2 picks for Anunoby is like dancing with your sister.

If we're going to trade picks might as well add a few more to get a superstar.

[Slim Charless]

2 picks for Anunoby is like dancing with your sister.

If we're going to trade picks might as well add a few more to get a superstar.

Such as......?

[Bogyo]

2 picks for Anunoby is like dancing with your sister.

If we're going to trade picks might as well add a few more to get a superstar.

Such as......?

I was just kinda thinking about that... Not sure who that is, but we can certainly come up with a good young player (Cam), expirings in Crowder/Saric, fillers from very good (Craig) to very bad (Shamet), and 3-4 picks... I just dunno who that said superstar would be...

[thamadkant]

I’m not dense, I know salary needs to match up. I like how you say it’s not a worthy gamble and then agree with nearly the exact package I proposed earlier. Salary filler + 3 picks.

Didn't see your proposed package, only the 3 picks.

It's not nearly the same gamble if it's only salary filler (no one of note) and picks.

3 picks is a huge haul for a player like OG. I know SA got 3 for Dejounte but I think he's more important. I think that would be lopsided.

We are without any rookie contracts after this year. It's near impossible to maintain a solid roster OR build for the future without some young talent on cheaper contracts.

I like OG and would consider Cam and a first. I don't really see any way they will pay Cam AND OG AND spend enough for a decent PG (unless they trade Ayton for something like Rozier and Plumlee).

Ideally a Book/Bridges/Cam/OG/Ayton lineup would be pretty unstoppable I think and you may only need 2-3 decent bench guys, like a Payne, Craig an backup big...with some other minimums...we'd have to be healthy.

BUT, I don't know if we can afford to have all five of those on the roster without going deep into the tax. If Ishbia is willing to do that, great.

If we did trade those picks though, I'd definitely want them at least top 4 protected going forward. They likely would convey as I doubt we'd finish bottom 4 so no big deal.

I think it's more likely given all considerations (salary cap, preserving picks/cap management going forward/adding youth) that we may try Crowder/Cam an 1 1st....which I think is reasonable. They wouldn't want Crowder (unless they wanted to re-sign and thought they could so maybe he'd go to a third team and they'd be willing to take a heavily protected 1st back or a couple 2nds, which is probably something we are not looking for for Crowder because we feel we need a player now).

CP3 off the bench?

And agreed that 3 picks for OG is ridiculous. He's not on Dejounte Murray's level.

2 protected first rounders, Shamet, Saric OR Crowder is overpay slightly considering Raptors want OG off their books and that he is injury prone.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Anunoby and Boucher for Ayton?

[Saberestar]

James Jones will not trade Cam Johnson because Cam was drafted by him and he values shooting over any other skill.

Our winning percentage is much better with Cam Johnson available, he is an important core player.

But which are the assets that James Jones doesn't value a lot? Yeah...PICKS.

That's why I think that we are gonna offer multiple picks and Crowder (and possibly a filler) for Anunoby.

If we can't get him we will go after another winning now player, probably a cheaper one.

[Qwigglez]

Anunoby and Boucher for Ayton?

Why give up Ayton at all if the Raptors might consider a deal of 3 picks and expiring contracts for Anunoby?

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Am I the only one who'd like to see Bones Hyland in a Suns uni?

[BobbieL]

I wonder about 1 first and Cam for OG. I think it would depend on how they view Cam's durability, how much they know he wants in the offseason (like does he want Mikal money?), etc. Of course OG has been injury prone in the past, but in really improves our D (and I think Cam is a solid defender) and OG is averaging 17, 5.5, 2, 2 and shoots nearly 37% from 3. He is under contract for $18.6 next year and has a player option over $19 the following year (I imagine he opts out and wants a lot more). And then wanting self creation, OG gets assisted on 67.7% of fgs while Cam is at 85.1%

I think I would do a first and Cam for OG and even include Nwora and whatever second rounders the bucks give up in the trade

More than that - not doing it

Keeping Cam
dangling one first round pick and whatever from the Bucks (Nwora, picks, etc) to try to get Russell. I do not trust Cam to be healthy or Shamet to give anything consistently for the playoffs.

Cam and 2FRPs is too much as is 3 FRPs - for me

[BobbieL]

Am I the only one who'd like to see Bones Hyland in a Suns uni?

What would it cost

Three team with the Bucks:

Milwaukee: Crowder

Suns: Hyland, Hill and Ibaka

Denver: Nwora and two seconds from the Bucks

In another trade ship Saric and Payne for Eric Gordon

[m1chal]

Am I the only one who'd like to see Bones Hyland in a Suns uni?

No, I like him as well.

[Qwigglez]

Am I the only one who'd like to see Bones Hyland in a Suns uni?

No, I like him as well.

If the top team in the Western Conference is looking to trade him I feel he probably isn't worth going after unless he only cost Crowder.

[Qwigglez]

Suns shouldn't be looking to trade Cam Johnson as we need his ability to stretch the floor. As I mentioned before, his 3P% from beyond 24 feet is over 40%, that's absurd. If Anunoby is too expensive, I'd look at maybe Jerami Grant being potentially available for the rest of the season but he'd likely cost the Suns a 1st and giving up Crowder in the process. He is shooting 42% from 3 this season. If the Bulls are actively shopping Patrick Williams he is someone else shooting over 40% from 3 that I think James Jones would look at. Olynyk and Bojan would also help spread the floor as potential options too.

[BobbieL]

Suns shouldn't be looking to trade Cam Johnson as we need his ability to stretch the floor. As I mentioned before, his 3P% from beyond 24 feet is over 40%, that's absurd. If Anunoby is too expensive, I'd look at maybe Jerami Grant being potentially available for the rest of the season but he'd likely cost the Suns a 1st and giving up Crowder in the process. He is shooting 42% from 3 this season. If the Bulls are actively shopping Patrick Williams he is someone else shooting over 40% from 3 that I think James Jones would look at. Olynyk and Bojan would also help spread the floor as potential options too.

Crowder to the Bucks

Payne and bucks players plus draft picks to Pistons plus a suns protected FRP

Bogdonovich to Suns

[Crives]

Anunoby and Boucher for Ayton?

Why give up Ayton at all if the Raptors might consider a deal of 3 picks and expiring contracts for Anunoby?

Hopefully new ownership can afford it

[KLEON]

Am I the only one who'd like to see Bones Hyland in a Suns uni?

He's good player who can frustrate you because he tries to do too much

[WeekapaugGroove]

Am I the only one who'd like to see Bones Hyland in a Suns uni?

No, I like him as well.

If the top team in the Western Conference is looking to trade him I feel he probably isn't worth going after unless he only cost Crowder.

Yeah Bones is kind of intriguing but like you said the Nugz looking to deal him is a red flag.

I was just looking at his bb reference page and man his advanced stats are rough. Is he a fools gold player, guy who can put up some counting stats but **** up your team game?

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[Qwigglez]

Good news to hear I suppose.
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270217/Hawks-Significantly-Decrease-Asking-Price-In-John-Collins-Trade


Not that I think Jones would trade for him. I think Jones wants another floor spacer, and I don't think he wants to take the risk of dealing with Collins finger.

[BobbieL]

Good news to hear I suppose.
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270217/Hawks-Significantly-Decrease-Asking-Price-In-John-Collins-Trade


Not that I think Jones would trade for him. I think Jones wants another floor spacer, and I don't think he wants to take the risk of dealing with Collins finger.

As others have noted, in the BSOTS article with Dave King - he wants shooters. Not sure Collins does that for you. I guess if the price were cheap enough. Still think Jones is going to find a guy who can get buckets

[KLEON]

Jae for TJ Warren and Seth Curry