2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Milwaukees' going to really be hurting and could possibly miss the playoffs without Portis adding legit depth considering how thin they are various positions. Unfortunately, that could also lead to this:

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KD trade to Milwaukee for Kuzma/ Portis/ Connaughton/ KPJr/ Jackson/ Smith Jr/ MIL 31' 1st.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Kyries' gonna ask the Mavs to trade for KD. Let's take Thompson/ Washington/ Gafford/ Powell/ Exum/ DAL 25' 1st (18th pick)/ LAL 29' 1st. Then move Thompson elsewhere for a young player/ 1st (possibly Toronto)?? maybe for Agbaji/ Mogbo/ TOR 26' 1st.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Too bad for them if Flagg decides to stay another year at Duke!

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[lilfishi22]

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Kyries' gonna ask the Mavs to trade for KD. Let's take Thompson/ Washington/ Gafford/ Powell/ Exum/ DAL 25' 1st (18th pick)/ LAL 29' 1st. Then move Thompson elsewhere for a young player/ 1st (possibly Toronto)?? maybe for Agbaji/ Mogbo/ TOR 26' 1st.

How is 35 year old Klay gonna get you a younger player and a 1st? Why would Toronto need Klay?

[mkot]

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Too bad for them if Flagg decides to stay another year at Duke!

Too late I think. They are 23-29 right now, as it stands they have 3% chance of landing the #1 spot.

[MrMiyagi]

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Too bad for them if Flagg decides to stay another year at Duke!

Too late I think. They are 23-29 right now, as it stands they have 3% chance of landing the #1 spot.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Too bad for them if Flagg decides to stay another year at Duke!

Too late I think. They are 23-29 right now, as it stands they have 3% chance of landing the #1 spot.

Very true! Unless you take into account the random miraculous Jump that occasionally happens for certain franchises, just like it happened for the Lakers for example back when they had like 0.2% chance or something sitting at the 11th pick. And then miraculously jumped all the way to #2 allowing them to draft Lonzo Ball.

Again, The Lakers were in the 11th spot at that time, and the Spurs are currently slated to be drafting at # 10 right now. So it shouldn't be too big of a hurdle to overcome for them. Especially with 28 or so games remaining

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Too bad for them if Flagg decides to stay another year at Duke!

Too late I think. They are 23-29 right now, as it stands they have 3% chance of landing the #1 spot.

The league will have them.jump in the lottery just the same way that the Lakers jumped the year they drafted Lonzo Ball. NBA " Where miracles happen" For favored teams!!!

[bwgood77]

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About time.

[MrMiyagi]

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About time.

I say we bring Tyus, Booker, Beal, and KD off the bench.

[bwgood77]

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Man! Would I love it if Doncic just chose a 1 and 1 deal opting to become an unrestricted free agent in 2026? And then just went elsewhere just to spurn Harrison and Pelinka for trading him! Makes a potential KD trade to LA all the more enticing if we could pull all of their depth, young talent, and last remaining pick for 2031

I hope he just lets his contract expire and goes to Brooklyn. Would be awesome. He doesn't need a 1 and 1. His current contract expires in 26.

Miami will still be hopeful too and I'm sure they are in the agent's ear. Luka, Bam and Herro wouldn't be bad.

[dremill24]

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About time.

Unless I missed an announcement somewhere, this looks like suggested adjustments from Gerald, not necessarily things that are confirmed to be part of their actual plans.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[lilfishi22]

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As long as Tyus goes to the bench, I'm alright with bringing Beal back

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Kyries' gonna ask the Mavs to trade for KD. Let's take Thompson/ Washington/ Gafford/ Powell/ Exum/ DAL 25' 1st (18th pick)/ LAL 29' 1st. Then move Thompson elsewhere for a young player/ 1st (possibly Toronto)?? maybe for Agbaji/ Mogbo/ TOR 26' 1st.

How is 35 year old Klay gonna get you a younger player and a 1st? Why would Toronto need Klay?

In a trade customarily man. That's how the exchange usually happens. Why would Toronto need Klay? Well to compete at a higher level. I mean ever since they acquired Ingram in a trade and signed him to a long term deal, there trajectory changed a bit. Thompson helps them tremendously in this aspect due to his championship experience and ability to mentor their young core.


They do this for much the same reason young teams choose to add vets to their team and try to become more competitive and make the playoffs to advance their young cores competitive development faster. Klay would be a great mentor for their young wings.

Now looking at their depth chart:

SG- Grady Dick/ RJ Barrett/ Jakobe Walters.
SF- Barrett/ Walter/ Battle/ Agbaji/ Dick.


What this tells me is that they're pretty thin on veteran depth at those positions. Now you've just added BI who'll probably play power forward. Meaning Barnes will play at the SF. And you have Grady Dick, a still very young, inexperienced 2nd yr prospect starting at the 2, obviously this is not optimal if you're trying to become more competitive and maybe make the playoffs.

RJ Barrett is not really a SG and is much better utilized at the SF spot. That leaves G Dick and Walter's, do two rookies with Agbaji being the 3rd. In adding the vet Thompson to the starting SG spot, they could now field a starting lineup of:

Quickly/ Thompson/ Barnes/ Ingram/ Poetl.
And by adding a lottery level guard in the top 5, they could now have Quickly off their bench as a backup PG/ SG depth piece. This Would also allow the Raptors to move Dick to the backup SG, and Barrett to the backup SF position. This would give them significantly more depth. Then they can use their 10 million in cap room to sign a free agent PF and backup center.

Lotto PG/ Thompson/ Barnes/ Ingram/ Poetl.
Quickly / Dick / Barrett / Mogbo / FA.
Shead/ Walters/ Battle/ Barrett / Mogbo.

Now they can build legit depth to push for the playoffs like other young fringe playoff teams that added vets have looked to do. Now the players that we're targeting in trade are Agbaji and Mogbo.

And it just so happens that we could also send them another piece we'd be getting back in a Dallas- KD trade like Powell. Agbaji and Mogbo aren't key pieces for them outside of necessity. But that changes after this trade and the draft and post free agency.

This would only further help their depth needs.
Now again, Toronto is tanking this year to secure a top 5 pick and a lottery/ franchise level cornerstone player ( PG). Likely a lead guard in either Kasparas Jakucionis or Dylan Harper if they land top 3.

So their starting guard would be in place, and they'd have added two key vet pieces in Ingram and Thompson to finish out the season with, acclimating with and mentoring their young players. And then next season, they could have good chemistry, add another key vet piece or two in free agency, and push for the playoffs.

Lastly, their 1st if they're making the playoffs in the Eastern Conference (which is much easier than in the West Coast). Is not going to be super valuable. And it's also not like they couldn't have it lotto protected either. So the value would end up equitable for both teams interests.

** Bonus- Who better would you want mentoring your young 6'7 wing in Grady Dick and also Jakobe Walters than Klay Thompson himself.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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As long as Tyus goes to the bench, I'm alright with bringing Beal back

I mean we're pretty much screwed anyways this season, so I guess why not right?

It sucks that we'll take from one hole to fill another, meaning that even though we've already tried this Booker/ Beal starting lineup and it was aweful, I guess if something doesn't/ hasn't worked previously, you gotta keep trying it until it does work. That's lol..........
basically our franchise. What's the definition of insanity again??

But as I was saying, in taking from the bench, will restore redundancy to our starting lineup again while taking depth and production off our bench to make it worse. Filling one hole while creating another. What'd truly be laughable would be if Bud still kept Tyus starting too in a lineup of Jones/ Beal/ Booker/ KD / Richards.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Man! Would I love it if Doncic just chose a 1 and 1 deal opting to become an unrestricted free agent in 2026? And then just went elsewhere just to spurn Harrison and Pelinka for trading him! Makes a potential KD trade to LA all the more enticing if we could pull all of their depth, young talent, and last remaining pick for 2031

I hope he just lets his contract expire and goes to Brooklyn. Would be awesome. He doesn't need a 1 and 1. His current contract expires in 26.

Miami will still be hopeful too and I'm sure they are in the agent's ear. Luka, Bam and Herro wouldn't be bad.

That'd honesty be ....................

[thamadkant]

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Milwaukees' going to really be hurting and could possibly miss the playoffs without Portis adding legit depth considering how thin they are various positions. Unfortunately, that could also lead to this:

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KD trade to Milwaukee for Kuzma/ Portis/ Connaughton/ KPJr/ Jackson/ Smith Jr/ MIL 31' 1st.

No.

No point re-tooling.

Suns need to trade Booker and KD out for under 24 year olds and picks.... and a veteran PURELY for salary matching.


There's NO good foundation for the Suns to re-tool. Booker is a BAD option 1 player.

[garrick]

The league has figured out how to beat the Suns and that is to pack the paint and send doubles and triples at Book and hope he coughs it up or gets stuffed by multiple defenders.

We had success before when we had players that could score inside a bit in CP3 and DA & even Bridges a little but with our current roster full of undersized guards the only hope we have of winning is to shoot lights out from 3 which rarely happens.

Book also has been a disappointing 3pt shooter so him being the spot up shooter plays into the opponent's strategy as he bricks wide open shot after wide open shot.