The 2016 Offseason Thread (Post Draft)

[BobbieL]

I still think Bogut for Chandler works well - throw in a pick to the Suns. Straight up, dollars match

Almost every team has $20M in cap room. You don't have to worry about matching salaries right now.

Anyway, in a vacuum Bogut is better than Chandler. I don't know the extent of Bogut's injury though. It isn't like Chandler is the most durable guy either.

Okay, forgot about the cap going on

Whiteside is supposed to choose between Miami and Dallas - if he stays in Miami, maybe a market for Tyson in Dallas

I think there is a market for the guy with the salary cap

[King4Day]

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Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine · 1m1 minute ago

The Nets, unable to find a trade for Jarrett Jack, just announced Jack's release

I know we don't need him but if we don't re-sign Price maybe?
That said, likely no need to him. Just NBA news

[NBA Fiend]

Here we go, furthermore Suns demand a pick.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zv9u4k3

[bwoolf2]

I still think Bogut for Chandler works well - throw in a pick to the Suns. Straight up, dollars match

Almost every team has $20M in cap room. You don't have to worry about matching salaries right now.

Anyway, in a vacuum Bogut is better than Chandler. I don't know the extent of Bogut's injury though. It isn't like Chandler is the most durable guy either.

Okay, forgot about the cap going on

Whiteside is supposed to choose between Miami and Dallas - if he stays in Miami, maybe a market for Tyson in Dallas

I think there is a market for the guy with the salary cap

What about Miami, Chandler would make a lot of sense there with Wade, Bosh, and Dragon, not sure they have anything we want since we already have all of their picks, may have to get a 3rd team involved. Keeps Miami relevant.

[TeamTragic]

Here we go, furthermore Suns demand a pick.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zv9u4k3

Makes zero sense. We should be patient with Chandler during FA until we see where players fall.

[JJ13]

Almost every team has $20M in cap room. You don't have to worry about matching salaries right now.

Anyway, in a vacuum Bogut is better than Chandler. I don't know the extent of Bogut's injury though. It isn't like Chandler is the most durable guy either.

Okay, forgot about the cap going on

Whiteside is supposed to choose between Miami and Dallas - if he stays in Miami, maybe a market for Tyson in Dallas

I think there is a market for the guy with the salary cap

What about Miami, Chandler would make a lot of sense there with Wade, Bosh, and Dragon, not sure they have anything we want since we already have all of their picks, may have to get a 3rd team involved. Keeps Miami relevant.

Remove protection on the picks they owe us

[gaspar]

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[NBA Fiend]

I meant after the dust settles as a possible option.

[King4Day]

Should we pickup Jack off Waivers? He'd be a 1 year player who we'd use just to trade later. If he's healthy, it could be worth the risk.
Thoughts? Only negative is, it'd cost us developing our guys.

[King4Day]

Here we go, furthermore Suns demand a pick.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zv9u4k3

Makes zero sense. We should be patient with Chandler during FA until we see where players fall.

I dunno. if it means getting an asset in return AND getting rid of his contract, it wouldn't be the worst trade idea.
Then spin off Bogut to another team.

[bwoolf2]

Sounds like he has the right attitude for what the Suns are looking for and he always played hard and did things the right way for the most part. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/carlos-boozer-planning-nba-return-185530263.html Vet min...

[MrMiyagi]

Should we pickup Jack off Waivers? He'd be a 1 year player who we'd use just to trade later. If he's healthy, it could be worth the risk.
Thoughts? Only negative is, it'd cost us developing our guys.

I think you've answered your own question.

[saintEscaton]

Sounds like he has the right attitude for what the Suns are looking for and he always played hard and did things the right way for the most part. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/carlos-boozer-planning-nba-return-185530263.html Vet min...

I'd rather sign his son Robert Sacre

[King4Day]

Should we pickup Jack off Waivers? He'd be a 1 year player who we'd use just to trade later. If he's healthy, it could be worth the risk.
Thoughts? Only negative is, it'd cost us developing our guys.

I think you've answered your own question.

If we keep Price, he'll likely take Ulis' minutes anyway so if we swapped him for Jack, we would have a better chance to let him build back up his value and deal him later. Ulis will likely see very little time this season anyway.

This offseason, I don't expect us to sign anyone to be here for a long time.
Guys like Mirza, Derrick Williams, etc. They'd be short contracts and easily tradable.
It would only be for the first half of the year and we can then cut or trade him by the deadline.

That said, I am sure other teams (Philly or LAL) will claim him first. Hard to see him clear waivers.

[Frank Lee]

what is a Chantecleer ?

[NavLDO]

So what's the All-Kerrsed team looking like now? Terrence Williams, Anthony Randolph, Lance Stephenson, Perry Jones III, Shabazz Muhammad.

AR was not one of them!

Its always funny how people choose to remember the failures and not the ones i liked that worked out.

Also funny that TWiLL and Stephenson i only mentioned AFTER their stock was at its lowest, so its not like i was all about it with the pre-hype, just thought we should give them a chance.

Those are just the ones I could remember. I wasn't trying to be a dick. I never thought that they were bad options at the time you were championing them.

Who are the ones that worked out?

OOOOOoooohhhhh, yes you were, Mr. "Wax-On, Wax-Off" Green Font-turned-Lavender-Font man...you just best be knowin' I've had my eye on you, lately; you just keep on r'memberin' that...that I'll be there watchin' you....keepin' my One-EYE' on you...you might see my 'one-eye' peekin' on your shoulder (that's how we do things in the Nav...layin' our 'one-eye' on your shoulder when you least expect it (sorry if you don't get my meaning there, but just remember, I'm the one that made your "dick" font, "huge", above....mmmm-hmmmm!

[saintEscaton]

AR was not one of them!

Its always funny how people choose to remember the failures and not the ones i liked that worked out.

Also funny that TWiLL and Stephenson i only mentioned AFTER their stock was at its lowest, so its not like i was all about it with the pre-hype, just thought we should give them a chance.

Those are just the ones I could remember. I wasn't trying to be a dick. I never thought that they were bad options at the time you were championing them.

Who are the ones that worked out?

OOOOOoooohhhhh, yes you were, Mr. "Wax-On, Wax-Off" Green Font-turned-Lavender-Font man...you just best be knowin' I've had my eye on you, lately; you just keep on r'memberin' that...that I'll be there watchin' you....keepin' my One-EYE' on you...you might see my 'one-eye' peekin' on your shoulder (that's how we do things in the Nav...layin' our 'one-eye' on your shoulder when you least expect it (sorry if you don't get my meaning there, but just remember, I'm the one that made your "dick" font, "huge", above....mmmm-hmmmm!

[oddity]

The more I look at the salaries the likes of Barnes and Batum are about to get, the more I think holding on to Bledsoe/Knight would be the best move. While it's nice to salivate about what a trade could net us now, waiting out could get us even more. If guys like Harrison Barnes are getting upwards of 20 mil a year, Knight and Bledsoe's 14 mil will start to look like a bargain over time. Everyone seems down on the value of these guys, but in reality their stocks will only rise as comparable players around them begin to dwarf the salaries they're getting.

[8on]

Tyson had a hamstring injury.
He's never had one before.
You guys already know that, which makes your disdain for him.....befuddling.

Despite that, Chandler posted the 11th best rebound per 48 mark in the league for guys who played more than 800 minutes. (Cole Aldrich is one of these.)
For guys who played 1600 minutes, he placed 9th.
Of those, he had the 4th highest FG%.

Much as I like Alex Len, Cole Aldrich is significantly better. So was Tyson. I would absolutely be willing to move on from Alex. I just don't know if he puts it all together. With his rookie extension coming up, I'm weary about signing him to a long term deal. Same with Archie.

Tyson is, despite your moaning, one of the best bigs in the league. If anyone's getting traded, it's Alex.
Unless Tyson asks to leave, he's not going anywhere.

Cole Aldrich is 4 years older than Len. Aldrich knows his role on a team, he's a role player off the bench. Alex Len is still developing. Alex Len is 7'1, those guys don't grow on trees. Moving on from him would absolutely be the dumbest thing you can do.
Let's look at Aldrich's stats from him third year... 1.7/1.9/0.3.
Or the perfect example is to look at Robin Lopez since he was Sun once upon a time. Everyone hated him, wanted to give up on him, but in his sixth year in the league he averaged 11.1/8.5/1.7. Certainly not the greatest, but definitely a serviceable starting center.
You have to be patient on centers, it takes them a while to really put it all together.

Oh, I am patient with him. I do think he could put it together.

But is that what we want? Do we want him to be the third scorer? That is his ultimate value.
This isn't a back to the basket league anymore. If he can score efficiently, great, but right now he's the least efficient big in the league, or one of them.
Cole is a guy where you know what you're getting, which is way above average. With Len, you don't.
I just don't know that we need a star center with this team. Role playing centers are definitely the direction the league is going in. As far as quality goes, inserting Cole would be an upgrade, at least for right now.

[8on]

What would it cost to bring Alex back next summer?

What is he worth?
Probably not what we'll have to give him.