2020 Offseason Speculation, free agency, summer trades (keep draft prospect talk in draft thread)

[SlovenianDragon]

I’m not worried at all about Ty Jerome looking good elsewhere. He’s simply not a professional basketball player.

I’ve said it before but I don’t think he can even play overseas in Europe or even China.

He’s not made out to play professional basketball, he’s about as athletic as some accountants and nurses that play basketball in the evenings at my gym for cardio.

It’s not his fault that he sucks, he should have never been drafted. Maybe a training camp invite as an undrafted player or a very late 2nd rd pick is about the highest he should have gone.

I’m sure he’s saving the free $5M that James Jones gave him with his contract. He will be working a 9-5 job in whatever he did his college degree in after his rookie contract is up.

I used to compare him to Kendall Marshall because similar to Marshall, Jerome has good height for the position but that’s about. With Marshall, he at least looked like he can play professional basketball somewhere overseas. With Jerome, there’s nothing he’s shown even for that.

I didn't realize every1 at your gym also won march madness.

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You are either overrating the people you play with or underrating Jerome. Either way you are wrong,

[Kerrsed]

Jesus Kerrsed... you have DeKlein ghost writing your trades? Those are mighty steep hauls for a disgruntled trade demander. Teams aren’t going to gut their squads to add the mighty Book.

Of course my demands are high, as i stated, i dont want to trade him. And i can ask for a high price because even being disgruntled he is locked into a 5 year contract. Tough titties for him or any team that thinks they can steal him because he is asking for a trade.

I guess that would be a nice starting point in negotiations, but those are quite the asks. I think ATTL's mention of Isaac/Fournier would be more likely, along with a first, but I know Orlando is very very high on Isaac. I assume they are probably fairly high on Bamba too. But a team like Orlando and Chicago wouldn't trade their whole future frontcourt and a top 8 pick from the last couple drafts, just to have Booker and LaVine or Booker and Vucevic.

They can be high on Issac all they want, truth of the matter is he has only played half a season at this kind of level. They are getting an all-star in return, one locked into a long-term contract thats quite a bit cheaper than other guys that are at a similar level or even below him. Gordon is......Gordon. A guy they obviously don want as they keep trying to trade him. I also dont believe they value Bamba much at all. Despite being a rather high pick, he only gets around 15 minutes a game if he is lucky, and has only broken 20 minutes Once this season. Yet for some reason 27 year old KHEM BIRCH is getting over 20 minutes a game, with the majority coming at C. Give up Bamba to a team that will use him (Us). He could/would be Baynes replacement.

The Bulls would still have a team. LaVine/Booker/PorterJr/Young/Gafford.

Hawks would have 2 All-stars in Young/Booker and run Huerter at SF and have Capella at C. They would just be lacking a PF, but sine guys like Young/Huerter are on cheap rookie contracts, Booker and Capella would be the only guys making over $10M a season, so they can nab a PF in FA.

[Revived]

I’m not worried at all about Ty Jerome looking good elsewhere. He’s simply not a professional basketball player.

I’ve said it before but I don’t think he can even play overseas in Europe or even China.

He’s not made out to play professional basketball, he’s about as athletic as some accountants and nurses that play basketball in the evenings at my gym for cardio.

It’s not his fault that he sucks, he should have never been drafted. Maybe a training camp invite as an undrafted player or a very late 2nd rd pick is about the highest he should have gone.

I’m sure he’s saving the free $5M that James Jones gave him with his contract. He will be working a 9-5 job in whatever he did his college degree in after his rookie contract is up.

I used to compare him to Kendall Marshall because similar to Marshall, Jerome has good height for the position but that’s about. With Marshall, he at least looked like he can play professional basketball somewhere overseas. With Jerome, there’s nothing he’s shown even for that.

I didn't realize every1 at your gym also won march madness.

Spoiler:

Watch on YouTube

You are either overrating the people you play with or underrating Jerome. Either way you are wrong,

You know there’s a lot of people who have won march madness tournaments that work as like insurance brokers and things like that right? Frank Kaminsky was the LeBron of NCAA when he was in college.

Here is the list of the very few NBA players who won NCAA titles

https://www.sportscasting.com/nba-players-won-ncaa-championships/

A very few of them might be playing overseas and the rest of them are working 9-5s or bagging groceries at your local Walmart right now.

[SlovenianDragon]

I’m not worried at all about Ty Jerome looking good elsewhere. He’s simply not a professional basketball player.

I’ve said it before but I don’t think he can even play overseas in Europe or even China.

He’s not made out to play professional basketball, he’s about as athletic as some accountants and nurses that play basketball in the evenings at my gym for cardio.

It’s not his fault that he sucks, he should have never been drafted. Maybe a training camp invite as an undrafted player or a very late 2nd rd pick is about the highest he should have gone.

I’m sure he’s saving the free $5M that James Jones gave him with his contract. He will be working a 9-5 job in whatever he did his college degree in after his rookie contract is up.

I used to compare him to Kendall Marshall because similar to Marshall, Jerome has good height for the position but that’s about. With Marshall, he at least looked like he can play professional basketball somewhere overseas. With Jerome, there’s nothing he’s shown even for that.

I didn't realize every1 at your gym also won march madness.

Spoiler:

Watch on YouTube

You are either overrating the people you play with or underrating Jerome. Either way you are wrong,

You know there’s a lot of people who have won march madness tournaments that work as like insurance brokers and things like that right? Frank Kaminsky was the LeBron of NCAA when he was in college.

Here is the list of the very few NBA players who won NCAA titles

https://www.sportscasting.com/nba-players-won-ncaa-championships/

A very few of them might be playing overseas and the rest of them are working 9-5s or bagging groceries at your local Walmart right now.

Id go with

Kemba/Hart
Lamb/Donte
Mikal/Winslow
AD/Okafor
Horford/Noah

Prob better than what we got now.

Whats the point again?

[Revived]

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Spoiler:

I didn't realize every1 at your gym also won march madness.

Watch on YouTube

You are either overrating the people you play with or underrating Jerome. Either way you are wrong,

You know there’s a lot of people who have won march madness tournaments that work as like insurance brokers and things like that right? Frank Kaminsky was the LeBron of NCAA when he was in college.

Here is the list of the very few NBA players who won NCAA titles

https://www.sportscasting.com/nba-players-won-ncaa-championships/

A very few of them might be playing overseas and the rest of them are working 9-5s or bagging groceries at your local Walmart right now.

Id go with

Kemba/Hart
Lamb/Donte
Mikal/Winslow
AD/Okafor
Horford/Noah

Prob better than what we got now.

Whats the point again?

That not all players on NCAA championship rosters are capable of being professional basketball players. Most, actually, are not capable of being NBA players.

And that’s what Ty Jerome is. Of course he’s a rookie that’s barely played few games so you could say it’s insanely early for that statement but even rookies generally show some sign of belonging in the league and Jerome, to me, hasn’t shown that.

[lilfishi22]

It depends what their pick looks like this year and how their current players develop. Beasley has been beasting since the trade to minny and culver is improving too.

If a trade has to happen I'd check with orlando on isaac and Fournier.
Ayton and isaac defense would be fun.

Rubio, Fournier, Bridges, Isaac, Ayton
Wouldn't mind that. It would be nice for once to see a defense oriented Suns team.

I’m probably in the minority but I’m actually ready to move on from Booker. In his 5+ years of playing for Phx he has not improved this team. That’s enough of a sample size to realize, he is not a franchise player. The “get him help” excuse has run its course. He’s not a “franchise player”. He’s an injuried reserve replacement all-star. I’d like to sale high right now on Booker. Find a team willing to over pay.

I think there needs to be a resetting of the expectations of Booker. He isn't exactly who we wished he was but at the same time he's certainly better than what many thought he would be. I get those concerns about his poor defense (still) and his ball dominating ways which still show up but who would've thought he'd be the playmaker he is today (solid but not great) and who thought he'd ever get to the kind of scoring efficiency he's playing with right now. Is he an actual franchise player? Probably not but most players on his tier and on his type of contract aren't but we/he still has time to show he's more than just a scorer. Making all-star (who most thought he was deserving of a full spot rather than injury reserve) is probably step 2 (improving his scoring efficient at volume was step 1) and the next step after that is to be improve on his ability to take over games which we've only seen sporadically.

I'm still not on the trade Booker train because I still see him as more of an asset than a liability and certainly a better asset than what we're likely to get back. But I will say if something good does come along, I'm fine with moving on from him, I just haven't really looked around the league at realistic trades that would make sense.

[SlovenianDragon]

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Spoiler:

You know there’s a lot of people who have won march madness tournaments that work as like insurance brokers and things like that right? Frank Kaminsky was the LeBron of NCAA when he was in college.

Here is the list of the very few NBA players who won NCAA titles

https://www.sportscasting.com/nba-players-won-ncaa-championships/

A very few of them might be playing overseas and the rest of them are working 9-5s or bagging groceries at your local Walmart right now.

Id go with

Kemba/Hart
Lamb/Donte
Mikal/Winslow
AD/Okafor
Horford/Noah

Prob better than what we got now.

Whats the point again?

That not all players on NCAA championship rosters are capable of being professional basketball players. Most, actually, are not capable of being NBA players.

And that’s what Ty Jerome is. Of course he’s a rookie that’s barely played few games so you could say it’s insanely early for that statement but even rookies generally show some sign of belonging in the league and Jerome, to me, hasn’t shown that.

Say what you want.

Watch on YouTube

No1 at your gym is better than Jerome and they never will be.

[itlnsunsfan]

Jesus Kerrsed... you have DeKlein ghost writing your trades? Those are mighty steep hauls for a disgruntled trade demander. Teams aren’t going to gut their squads to add the mighty Book.

They're significant packages, but I'm surprised you feel they're so unreasonable. What do you think Bradley Beal would fetch in trade?

[Jdiddy701]

Toronto just beat Pacers by 46 points. Makes me feel better about the Suns game now.


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[Crives]

Come on Bender.. beat those pelicans!

Going to be hilarious if Bender/Chris/Jackson win a title next year with the warriors.

[KLEON]

Come on Bender.. beat those pelicans!

Going to be hilarious if Bender/Chris/Jackson win a title next year with the warriors.

Who?

[SunsRback4Good]

Come on Bender.. beat those pelicans!

Going to be hilarious if Bender/Chris/Jackson win a title next year with the warriors.

Who?

Samuel L Jackson. Duhhhh

[SunsRback4Good]

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Spoiler:

Id go with

Kemba/Hart
Lamb/Donte
Mikal/Winslow
AD/Okafor
Horford/Noah

Prob better than what we got now.

Whats the point again?

That not all players on NCAA championship rosters are capable of being professional basketball players. Most, actually, are not capable of being NBA players.

And that’s what Ty Jerome is. Of course he’s a rookie that’s barely played few games so you could say it’s insanely early for that statement but even rookies generally show some sign of belonging in the league and Jerome, to me, hasn’t shown that.

Say what you want.

Watch on YouTube

No1 at your gym is better than Jerome and they never will be.

Dude I can lock down Jerome since he cant shoot and on offense back him down first 10 possessions to tire him out a bit since he's in an NBA shape unlike me. If we go to 11 points I am 70% certain I'll best him 11-7 or 11-8.

[bwoolf2]

What is wrong with this board you are literally talking about trading one of the best young players in the game who isn't even close to his prime years, mind boggling... It's not his fault he has been surrounded with horrible coaching and horrible teammates and has been forced into some bad habits because he was the only capable player on the team. He will flourish these next few years with Monty and better players around him. You don't trade him unless you are getting one of the best offers ever made.

[DirtyDez]

I’m not worried at all about Ty Jerome looking good elsewhere. He’s simply not a professional basketball player.

I’ve said it before but I don’t think he can even play overseas in Europe or even China.

He’s not made out to play professional basketball, he’s about as athletic as some accountants and nurses that play basketball in the evenings at my gym for cardio.

It’s not his fault that he sucks, he should have never been drafted. Maybe a training camp invite as an undrafted player or a very late 2nd rd pick is about the highest he should have gone.

I’m sure he’s saving the free $5M that James Jones gave him with his contract. He will be working a 9-5 job in whatever he did his college degree in after his rookie contract is up.

I used to compare him to Kendall Marshall because similar to Marshall, Jerome has good height for the position but that’s about. With Marshall, he at least looked like he can play professional basketball somewhere overseas. With Jerome, there’s nothing he’s shown even for that.

I didn't realize every1 at your gym also won march madness.

Watch on YouTube

You are either overrating the people you play with or underrating Jerome. Either way you are wrong,

Miles Simon won Final Four MVP for Arizona who was a similar player to Jerome. He flamed out of the league in two years. It’s just like the Heisman meaning nothing in terms of NFL success.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Interesting!....................

Who would've thought that those 3 players could possibly be made available in a trade? Sounds somewhat unrealistic, perhaps even sounds a like one of my crazy trade ideas that I had involving those 3 not too long ago huh?...lol. Maybe somebody should tell all those NBA executives to live in reality, and focus more on realistic trade scenarios ehhh BW???......

But all joking aside, I'd love to somehow get Dinwiddie and/ or Allen on this team honestly. It's just too bad that all of our decent assets are pretty much depleted now. Would've been nice to be able to use Baynes, Saric, and Johnson's expiring contract ( if possible) or something along those lines. I'd even have offered a future protected first for Dinwiddie and Allen ( Baynes replacement). Or even in a trade with Sacramento for Bjelica and Joseph ( to give us added depthfor a late playoff push) And then we could'vepossibly flipped them for some combo of Levert/ Dinwiddie/ Allen at the deadline? ( Also, we probably could've gotten a 2nd round pick back from Sacramento as well). **( Hello Grant Riller and Yeoli Childs). Oh well, I guess that Hopefully we'll still see something noteworthy this offseason though.

[lilfishi22]

With all the Booker is gonna ask for a trade and we should trade Booker talk, we're currently on track to win 34 games. That's a 15 game win improvement. That's not all Booker but Booker was "the man" in all but 3 games this season when he sat out.

For a first time all-star at 23 to be scoring as much as he does and at his elite efficiency and now his team is beginning to exhibit signs of a turn around, I think it's important to show some patience with this young team. And for all the bad habits Booker plays with, he's had virtually zero good influences and mentors in his time here. There was no one to take him under their wing and learn how to play the right way and certainly having the merry-go-around of coaches didn't help either. He's basically had to learn on his own and step up the only way he knew how (by scoring) when no one was around to help him on or off the court. Yes, he's been in the league for 5 years now and his defense hasn't really improved much (effort has been better this season imo) and his ability to takeover is still questionable but to crucify the kid because he isn't Dame in the clutch, the leader we wish he was or his defense still stinks; it's kind of throwing the baby out with the bath water.

We should cherish what we have in him and what he *still* could be before looking to move him. If a great deal that makes sense comes along or he wants out, then we can have that conversations but I wouldn't be so quick to try and move him.

[jredsaz]

With all the Booker is gonna ask for a trade and we should trade Booker talk, we're currently on track to win 34 games. That's a 15 game win improvement. That's not all Booker but Booker was "the man" in all but 3 games this season when he sat out.

For a first time all-star at 23 to be scoring as much as he does and at his elite efficiency and now his team is beginning to exhibit signs of a turn around, I think it's important to show some patience with this young team. And for all the bad habits Booker plays with, he's had virtually zero good influences and mentors in his time here. There was no one to take him under their wing and learn how to play the right way and certainly having the merry-go-around of coaches didn't help either. He's basically had to learn on his own and step up the only way he knew how (by scoring) when no one was around to help him on or off the court. Yes, he's been in the league for 5 years now and his defense hasn't really improved much (effort has been better this season imo) and his ability to takeover is still questionable but to crucify the kid because he isn't Dame in the clutch, the leader we wish he was or his defense still stinks; it's kind of throwing the baby out with the bath water.

We should cherish what we have in him and what he *still* could be before looking to move him. If a great deal that makes sense comes along or he wants out, then we can have that conversations but I wouldn't be so quick to try and move him.

Man they ain't trading Booker. But I'll tell you this. If James Jones doesnt make significant roster improvements this summer - that actually work - Booker will start pushing his way out. Writing is on the wall. Tbh, short of playing in a finals I have a hard time seeing Booker re-up with the Suns after this contract is over. Players leave teams. It's just what happens.

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[Mr Puddles]

Come on Bender.. beat those pelicans!

Going to be hilarious if Bender/Chris/Jackson win a title next year with the warriors.

Ryan McD tries to create roster of championship team

Instead, championship team re-creates roster of Ryan McD

Suns hire steve kerr as GM to find championship team coach.

Instead, team hires Suns GM Steve Kerr to coach them to championship.

[bwgood77]

The only reason people keep coming up with deals is because others think he will ask out soon. I've only seen a couple of people say they wouldn't mind trading him, but they haven't said for what. There is almost zero chance he will be traded and minimal chance he will ask to be traded any time soon being in the first year of a max. He's become friends with Fitzgerald who went through more tough seasons than good ones and has said he wants to be a long term guy who becomes as much of a similar icon in the valley. Sure he says he wants to win but everyone does.