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2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV

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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#1101 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Feb 21, 2025 7:40 am

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Milwaukees' going to really be hurting and could possibly miss the playoffs without Portis adding legit depth considering how thin they are various positions. Unfortunately, that could also lead to this:

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No.

No point re-tooling.

Suns need to trade Booker and KD out for under 24 year olds and picks.... and a veteran PURELY for salary matching.


There's NO good foundation for the Suns to re-tool. Booker is a BAD option 1 player.


Oh I emphatically agree with you man! Only my gut tells me that Ishbias' delusional pride won't allow him to make an intelligent and logical decision in this! He'll likely just continue to try to double down rather than ever admit his mistakes and run this franchise so deep into the ground that it'll take decades to build it back to any form of acceptable level of competitiveness. He'll likely try and resign KD (unless Durant saves us from his ignorance/ hubris by asking out this summer. But even then, I could see him trying to trade those picks with Allen, O'neale, and other contracts for other aging players to keep trying his misguided strategy for the next 3-5 years or until Booker finally asks out too, and we get nothing for him at near 32 years old and are a historically bad laughingstock of the league that is referenced as a front office Masterclass for egregious mismanagement. :banghead:

The trades I'm offering are not at all what I'd prefer us to do, the only viable options I'd hope they'd consider in compromise to their horrific plan to keep testing the definition of insanity! And hoping to prove reality wrong somehow to consol their bruised egos.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#1102 » by Mulhollanddrive » Fri Feb 21, 2025 7:46 am

Ishbia said no rebuilding unless Booker requested a trade
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#1103 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:25 am

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If he (Coach Bud) really believes this, then he needs to be fired just as soon as the season ends!
There's just no way you give up freaking 94 points in three quarters to a Spurs team without Wemby and you're sitting Richards and only playing Dunn (our best defender) for only 20 total seconds! tightening the rotation makes absolutely zero sense when we're not even close to making the playoffs or possibly even the play-in itself either! And while playing Jones and Plumlee of all the players.

It's just so egregious that the only thing that makes sense about all of this is if all of this season (post All-star break) is just Ishbia, Jones, and Bud quietly trying to showcase Allen, O'neale, etc for trades this summer trying to up their value. Now the really bad part is that the real underlying reason he's showcasing those two players and others but not caring about the season is because Ishbia will aggressively look to resign KD and then make moves around the margins trading Allen and O'neale but not KD and definitely not Booker!

Ishbia fantasizes about KD retiring here! So he can capitalize on that celebration, but also he won't even consider trading either KD or Book while hosting the 27 All-Star Game! It's such a weird dichotomy how Ishbia has such delusional arrogance and narcissistic compulsive behavior. And yet he also has such a fragile ego, that he'd put this fanbase through anything and burn this franchise to ashes rather than admitting he was wrong and making the tough but correct decision for this franchise! :nonono:
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#1107 » by Djedefre » Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:08 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Ishbia said no rebuilding unless Booker requested a trade


When and where did Mr. Idiot say that?
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#1108 » by garrick » Fri Feb 21, 2025 12:33 pm

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As they say the rot starts from the head and it's too bad Ishbia won't divest from managing this team.

The parallels between him and Elon Musk are very similar, Musk sees the govt as his shiny new toy to play with and Ishbia has the Suns as his real life toy where he can play GM and make horrible transactions and mess things up.

Can we please stop thinking rich people are geniuses because they're insanely rich?
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#1109 » by Sunsdeuce » Fri Feb 21, 2025 1:24 pm

Booker is not a good basketball player! Need to scam another team into over trading for him! Take his no heart, no desire, no defense, and his overpriced contract out of AZ! I’d keep Beal over Booker any day, all day! So sick of seeing his garbage, entitled style Of basketball on display each night!

Oh and Ishbia is a trash owner! But at least you got $2 hot dogs!
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#1110 » by Slim Charless » Fri Feb 21, 2025 2:40 pm

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Flex is right about that. Dunn needs to play more.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#1111 » by sunsbum » Fri Feb 21, 2025 3:02 pm

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As they say the rot starts from the head and it's too bad Ishbia won't divest from managing this team.

The parallels between him and Elon Musk are very similar, Musk sees the govt as his shiny new toy to play with and Ishbia has the Suns as his real life toy where he can play GM and make horrible transactions and mess things up.

Can we please stop thinking rich people are geniuses because they're insanely rich?
I agree, I also wonder why people didnt have this conversation about bill gates.
"Mannnnn I’m like the guy that pissed this whole board off saying literally all year no Mikal, no Mikal in the KD trade."
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#1112 » by sunsbum » Fri Feb 21, 2025 3:04 pm

I watched an all star hockey game over watching the suns. Let me tell you how many hockey games on TV I’ve watched in the last 10 years…. 1 and it was yesterday.
"Mannnnn I’m like the guy that pissed this whole board off saying literally all year no Mikal, no Mikal in the KD trade."
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#1113 » by Fo-Real » Fri Feb 21, 2025 3:05 pm

I would be good with never seeing another minute of Tyus Jones or Mason Plumlee in Suns uniforms!
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Post#1114 » by handsome salary » Fri Feb 21, 2025 3:51 pm

I can't believe anybody would want to spend money going to see this dismal team/franchise the rest of the season. I won't even watch them for free on my couch. Haven't seen a single minute of a game since the Blazers and proud of it.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#1115 » by Frank Lee » Fri Feb 21, 2025 4:27 pm

Too many one trick Ponies in this rodeo

Best to tone down any emotional involvement with this franchise. I’d like to say ‘ride it out’ to better times. But that looks like a long bumpy road.

Wishbia, the arrogant carpetbagger he is, ransacked this franchise and stole ?yrs of what I was hoping, a pleasurable fan experience to occupy my elderly advancement. Even this site is now more of a b*tchboard source of entertainment. Once the common fan wakes up, the Suns hold on most popular sports team in the valley will evaporate... Soon the opposing fans will out number the home town fans. $2 hotdogs mean nothing if you can’t stomach the on court product. I don’t live in AZ, but I can imagine the souring

Hopefully, ASU football will take the hot spot. May be ASU hockey too? Regardless, the decline has begun.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#1116 » by bwgood77 » Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:23 pm

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As they say the rot starts from the head and it's too bad Ishbia won't divest from managing this team.

The parallels between him and Elon Musk are very similar, Musk sees the govt as his shiny new toy to play with and Ishbia has the Suns as his real life toy where he can play GM and make horrible transactions and mess things up.

Can we please stop thinking rich people are geniuses because they're insanely rich?


It's funny, there were a ton of people wanting Musk to buy the team. I think he was leading the poll.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#1117 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:33 pm

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As they say the rot starts from the head and it's too bad Ishbia won't divest from managing this team.

The parallels between him and Elon Musk are very similar, Musk sees the govt as his shiny new toy to play with and Ishbia has the Suns as his real life toy where he can play GM and make horrible transactions and mess things up.

Can we please stop thinking rich people are geniuses because they're insanely rich?


It's funny, there were a ton of people wanting Musk to buy the team. I think he was leading the poll.


It's makes sense to be very excited about the idea of getting an owner who will spend aft er r going so long with the ultimate parsimonious cheapskate who won't spend at all. But spending without any planning or logical direction just to say you spend big breeds chaos and is recipe for disaster!

It's just reckless compulive spending with no accountability at all. It's so weird that between our two owners, we've gone from extreme to the other with complete polar opposites in Sarver and Ishbia.

When what we really need is a measured calculating owner who actually let's his professionals do their job and show legitimate planning, strategy and thought being employed in the process.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#1118 » by Slim Charless » Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:36 pm

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As they say the rot starts from the head and it's too bad Ishbia won't divest from managing this team.

The parallels between him and Elon Musk are very similar, Musk sees the govt as his shiny new toy to play with and Ishbia has the Suns as his real life toy where he can play GM and make horrible transactions and mess things up.

Can we please stop thinking rich people are geniuses because they're insanely rich?


It's funny, there were a ton of people wanting Musk to buy the team. I think he was leading the poll.


Then we could've had SUNSCOINs. Also Trump would've made a Excutive Order that the Nets be forced to give us back CamJo-for free. I mean they've profited enough off that trade anyways.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#1119 » by SunsRback4Good » Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:06 pm

sunsbum wrote:I watched an all star hockey game over watching the suns. Let me tell you how many hockey games on TV I’ve watched in the last 10 years…. 1 and it was yesterday.


It’s not an all star game it’s an ice hockey tournament. There’s a huge difference as the countries despise each other. This would never work in nba all star game even if it’s world vs USA.
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