Alll Amare Talk Here: Thread 7

[ruiner]

I agree with what barkley said... I would be glad to see him as GM after kerr is fired at the end of the season.. it would be entertaining at least.

Did barkley say something about the suns? sorry I missed it I was at work

Yea he said Kerr made a bad move and he said amare is the 4th best person in free agency and amare will probably leave for nothing and his value is going to be even worse because he is pretty much a free agent. He then said if he was a GM he would not sign a player for a 100 million contract unless they were contending.

Groundbreaking stuff there. Not nearly enough for me to want him as GM. He'd be so bad. Especially, based on some of his comments throughout the yrs about teams, certain players.


Kerr did the right thing. You don't make a trade for the sake of it or. Nothing good was offered (with Beasley not involved). Plus, it seems more and more he won't opt out of 17M.

[sunsfever68]

Barkley talks a good game but talking a good game as GM we all know is alot easier said than done. It'd be like one of us who thinks we could run the organization try to run it then step into the shoes and start dealing with the daily minutia that gets overlooked and we might get overwhelmed.

No doubt Barkley would bring a swagger though I'd love to see him as a coach honestly as our big man coach

[RaisingArizona]

Call me crazy but I'd prefer if Kerr stayed. He may suck at trades but at least he showed some balls and stood his ground. That's a step in the right direction.

Barkley as GM scares me because I get the feeling the first thing he'd do is blow up the team, even though he'd have no idea what to do afterward. He just doesn't have the savvy or personal skills to be a good GM. I do agree that Barkley as GM would be entertaining as hell.

If that happens we might as well make Thunder Dan our future head coach.

Barkley: GM
Majerle: Coach
KJ: Owner

How sick would that be?!

[ruiner]

Call me crazy but I'd prefer if Kerr stayed. He may suck at trades but at least he showed some balls and stood his ground. That's a step in the right direction.

Barkley as GM scares me because I get the feeling the first thing he'd do is blow up the team, even though he'd have no idea what to do afterward. He just doesn't have the savvy or personal skills to be a good GM. I do agree that Barkley as GM would be entertaining as hell.

If that happens we might as well make Thunder Dan our future head coach.

Marion/Shaq trade was bad but getting Dudley was worth and making move for Dragic too. A lot of the others were forced because of salary and he wasn't going to do that with Amare.

But. Kerr and Suns sort of an oil and water mix to start. He has more of a defensive philosophy background. I think his vision is keep the uptempo but get more players who play defense naturally. It would make the team go further than they'd did getting the right pieces (and better luck). I'd like to see his vision seen through.

[Mr. Sun]

I like the idea of Jerry back as GM (completely in control with sarver sidelined).

[sunsfever68]

I talked to Tim Kempton tonight and he said Jerry wouldn't consider it. He thinks he's too wrapped up in USA basketball. But then again Kempton only knows so much. We'll see.

[sunsfever68]

I'd love to see Colangelo as GM Kerr as an assistant he's not that bad, Barkley as a big man's coach with majerle and KJ as assistant coaches with Alvin Gentry as head coach still. That'd be cool

[Mr. Sun]

Well Jerry did say he was open to the idea recently.

[Seattlesun]

i'm hopping on the bandwagon with kerrsed

BARKLEY FOR SUNS GM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, people like this are why I stopped posting on realgm. Barkley cant even run his own life and there are Suns fans that want him to run the Phoenix Suns ?!??!!?!?!?!

Unreal. Kerr did the right thing. All offers for STAT were crap, intent on extorting Amare for nothing in return. Kerr stuck his middle finger up at the patronizing and I'm glad he did.

[Nando88]

wow... people take sarcasm up the pooper too much on here

[Boss_]

Wow Amare has terrible value.

I don't think he has bad value at all as a player, I just think the fact that he is 20'something regular seasons games away from being a free agent makes him difficult to receive value for in a trade.

Houston was able to get 2 1st round picks with crappy protection from the Knicks and their HIll pick this season for TracyMcgrady who was expiring.

Bulls managed to get a 1st rounder for tyrus thomas.

Spurs managed to get a 2nd rounder for theo freakin' ratliff lol.

Why not get something for Amare rather than just let him walk away? Hes gonna be the 3rd or 4th most sought after fa at the end of the season and theres plenty of teams w/ cap room

[Mr. Sun]

Why not get something for Amare rather than just let him walk away? Hes gonna be the 3rd or 4th most sought after fa at the end of the season and theres plenty of teams w/ cap room

Very good question. If the Heat did in fact offered two first round picks but not Beasley I don't understand why Kerr didn't jump on the deal.

Only thing I can think of is he is very confident he can extend Amare and get what he wants in a trade in July.

[lilfishi22]

Only thing I can think of is he is very confident he can extend Amare and get what he wants in a trade in July.

I agree. They have already laid down the groundwork for an Amare extension, they just need to find some middle ground between the two camps. Once Amare is extended, the ball is back in our court again.

[GhostRaider2007]

Here are some more specifics on what Houston offered atleast when it comes to those draft picks and also why the deal didn't come the fruition.

Link:
http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-100218/daily-dime

According to one source the Rockets tried to make a last-hour run at Stoudemire, offering Shane Battier, Luis Scola, Brian Cook, a Rockets draft pick and one of the picks the Rockets acquired from the New York Knicks. Because of the lateness of the hour the Suns wanted to waive the physical examinations for the players involved. The Rockets didn't want to do that for Stoudemire, who has had two major knee surgeries, so the proposal died and the Suns didn't make the long list of satisfied customers.

I would assume that Rockets draft pick is our upcoming 2010 pick.

Also I would look for the Rockets to be back in the mix for a sign and trade in the summer. Morey stated outright in his press conference yesterday for the McGrady/Martin trade that Hou would be looking for a sign and trade scenario in the offseason (due to our lack of capspace now) to land one of the big fish freeagents now that we have adequate assets to do so. With that said and given Morey past actions I would safely bet the two top targets will be one of either Bosh or Amare they might try to throw their hats into the other races but I will bet it will boil down to those two players. Morey's statements over the last few weeks show Houston wants Bosh and his actions given this is the second straight season he has tried to acquire Amare shows he is clearly interested in Amare. So I would look for a third attempt by Morey come draft night/ or later in the off season.

[Miklo]

Wow Amare has terrible value.

I don't think he has bad value at all as a player, I just think the fact that he is 20'something regular seasons games away from being a free agent makes him difficult to receive value for in a trade.

Houston was able to get 2 1st round picks with crappy protection from the Knicks and their HIll pick this season for TracyMcgrady who was expiring.

Bulls managed to get a 1st rounder for tyrus thomas.

Spurs managed to get a 2nd rounder for theo freakin' ratliff lol.

Why not get something for Amare rather than just let him walk away? Hes gonna be the 3rd or 4th most sought after fa at the end of the season and theres plenty of teams w/ cap room

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[Sun Scorched]

Here are some more specifics on what Houston offered atleast when it comes to those draft picks and also why the deal didn't come the fruition.

Link:
http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-100218/daily-dime

According to one source the Rockets tried to make a last-hour run at Stoudemire, offering Shane Battier, Luis Scola, Brian Cook, a Rockets draft pick and one of the picks the Rockets acquired from the New York Knicks. Because of the lateness of the hour the Suns wanted to waive the physical examinations for the players involved. The Rockets didn't want to do that for Stoudemire, who has had two major knee surgeries, so the proposal died and the Suns didn't make the long list of satisfied customers.

I would assume that Rockets draft pick is our upcoming 2010 pick.

Also I would look for the Rockets to be back in the mix for a sign and trade in the summer. Morey stated outright in his press conference yesterday for the McGrady/Martin trade that Hou would be looking for a sign and trade scenario in the offseason (due to our lack of capspace now) to land one of the big fish freeagents now that we have adequate assets to do so. With that said and given Morey past actions I would safely bet the two top targets will be one of either Bosh or Amare they might try to throw their hats into the other races but I will bet it will boil down to those two players. Morey's statements over the last few weeks show Houston wants Bosh and his actions given this is the second straight season he has tried to acquire Amare shows he is clearly interested in Amare. So I would look for a third attempt by Morey come draft night/ or later in the off season.

Absolutely great value in that trade. I could write volumes on it, I won't, but I could.

[Miklo]

^Yeah I like that H-Town deal much more than any of the other offers.

[Cash]

^Yeah I like that H-Town deal much more than any of the other offers.

Agreed. That's actually a package with some value. If the Rockets had offered it a couple hours earlier, it probably would've gone through. And I could've lived with it.

Keep in mind, everyone, that by not trading Amare for garbage, the Suns retained 2 important things:

1.) Amare's services for the rest of the year. This is probably the difference between making the playoffs and missing them. And it's definitely the difference between a fun/watchable team and one that's gruesome to watch.

2.) Amare's Bird Rights at the end of the year. This may not wind up being worth anything, but there's a good chance it'll help. How many big stars have ever signed with another team outright? It's usually a sign & trade, even when the new team has the cap room to sign the FA outright. Rashard Lewis is the latest example.

[grumpysaddle]

i would have hated to see amare in a rockets uniform. i hate that team so much and i want to watch him play wherever he ends up. there's certain teams i probably couldn't do that with, the rockets are one.

thank you for not trading amare for garbage, steve kerr! also... do you guys REAAAALLY trust this FO with draft picks? making picks that will be future stars is not really their forte. yes, dragic and lopez are decent pieces, but not star talent. i would expect whatever teams picked right after the suns to get unexpected eventual superstars, while the suns got decent pieces or better player's not-nearly-as-good brothers.

[SSOL]

Who else did you want them to take at 15 and 45? Not to mention, they did draft Amare.