Trade Deadline Countdown Pre-Febuary Deadline

[Saberestar]

I doubt any trade gets announced today. Not on the day of the All-Star game. That would be bad form by the teams involved.

But right after the game the rumors are going to be a lot stronger and probably some trade is made.

Otto Porter? That would be amazing, I don't think he is on the market at all.

[MrMiyagi]

OK Nav.... i stand down on your uber optimism, yes, you have acknowledged mistakes, but you defend them with the unmeasurable predictions that his corrections will all pan out and supersede his set backs. Too many compare what former players are doing elsewhere and project them here. I don't give a crap about what Dragic is doing in Miami... I just know what he was doing here. It goes the same for Green. Don't mention theGORTAT either. We had a good team, a good foundation, and McDemolation ripped it apart.

Do i think we are better than when McD took over .... yes...
Do i think we are better than two years ago? ....no
Do i think we should be better than where we are now.... YES
Do i think we have the right GM running the show ? I don't know. For I think he has pi55ed in his own soup one too many times.

We never even had a winning season with Gortat, the best was 33-33. Are you really missing Gerald Green? Seriously? Frank, you're pining the good old days that weren't even good.

[carey]

Im sorry if this comes off as harsh but if your responsible for assembling (and soon disassembling) the worst team, worst roster, and nearly (by an inch) worst record, you dont deserve any Coodoos.

This x 1,000,000! He could win all his value trades and drafts. but the bottom line is we have one of the worst teams in suns history..

WE ARE MISSING OUR 3 TOP SCORERS. That is all.

[MrMiyagi]

Im sorry if this comes off as harsh but if your responsible for assembling (and soon disassembling) the worst team, worst roster, and nearly (by an inch) worst record, you dont deserve any Coodoos.

This x 1,000,000! He could win all his value trades and drafts. but the bottom line is we have one of the worst teams in suns history..

WE ARE MISSING OUR 3 TOP SCORERS. That is all.

Fixed this for you, you blindly optimistic homer.

[SideSwipe]

Otto Porter as a target would be very interesting, especially since the Bazz rumor. Maybe we are shopping for a long 3 that is versatile. Does that mean Warren is on the move elsewhere in another trade? The thought always crosses my mind when players numbers drop off suddenly if their confidence isn't shaken because of finding out about a trade. Knight/Morris/Tucker for Beal, Porter, Nene?

[AtheJ415]

I haven't been here in a while... But from what I can gather...

Suns are indeed in serious trade talks with an eastern conference team..

Keif and a couple other pieces for a young player.. Not sure who or what yet. Once I do, I'll let you know

My guess--the Bulls and we're trying to get Portis. Just a guess. Obviously wouldn't be had easily, but Kieff and a couple other pieces may be enough for a team that is trying to win now.

[bwgood77]

So how come, it's ok for Colangelo to tank, but not McD??

When did Colangelo try to tank?

Sorry, should've been more specific:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10534698/tanking-talk-hot-topic-annual-sloan-conference

Bryan Colangelo revealed he wanted the 2011-12 Toronto Raptors, for whom he served as general manager, to lose.

"I tried to tank a couple years ago," Colangelo said. "And I didn't come out and say, 'Coach, you've got to lose games.' I never said that. I wanted to establish a winning tradition and a culture and all of that. But I wanted to do it in the framework of playing the young players, and with that, comes losing. There's just no way to avoid that."

Oh, I thought we were talking about the Suns. I don't think Jerry EVER tried to tank.

[dremill24]

Otto Porter as a target would be very interesting, especially since the Bazz rumor. Maybe we are shopping for a long 3 that is versatile. Does that mean Warren is on the move elsewhere in another trade? The thought always crosses my mind when players numbers drop off suddenly if their confidence isn't shaken because of finding out about a trade. Knight/Morris/Tucker for Beal, Porter, Nene?

Looking for another wing doesn't mean they're trying to get rid of one they have. What makes a team like the Warriors so good (besides Curry) is the ridiculous number of versatile, 6'5"-6'9" "wing" type players that they can throw out there to spread the floor on offense and switch on defense. If there's on thing you almost can't have too much of on a team, it's wings.

Oh and the Wizards would never do that trade.

[AtheJ415]

I don't see any way it's the Raptors unless we're getting picks also. I like some of their young guys, but they aren't good enough to be the center pieces of a trade for Kieff and a couple other pieces. I mean, I like Delon Wright and Noguera maybe becomes something, same with Caboclo, but none have even proven themselves as rotation players as of yet.

So if we're moving, say, Kieff, Tucker, and Price or Tele to the Raptors, I'd expect at least some decent first rounder to be included, unless the Raptors are okay dealing all of Wright, Noguera, and Caboclo.

[Sunsdeuce]

Im sorry if this comes off as harsh but if your responsible for assembling (and soon disassembling) the worst team, worst roster, and nearly (by an inch) worst record, you dont deserve any Coodoos.

This x 1,000,000! He could win all his value trades and drafts. but the bottom line is we have one of the worst teams in suns history..

WE ARE MISSING OUR 3 TOP SCORERS. That is all.

Just stop. Same excuse over and over for 5 years. Has Bledsoe put up a winning season (bedside his first year when Goran carried the team) since he was coined the best player on the team? As for knight and Warren, correct me if my wrong but we were still **** before they were hurt. Weak just weak. And quoting Warren as a "key" piece that's even worse (and you want to be technical he is the 4th leading scorer at 11 while Morris is 11.6 (either way those numbers are laughable and not numbers to support your argument)).. Same stupid excuse 5 years running. And under the Bledsoe era...its 3 years running.

Good teams don't make excuses...bad teams have a bag full of them.

Bottom line is....you are what your record says you are!

[AtheJ415]

This x 1,000,000! He could win all his value trades and drafts. but the bottom line is we have one of the worst teams in suns history..

WE ARE MISSING OUR 3 TOP SCORERS. That is all.

Just stop. Same excuse over and over for 5 years. Has Bledsoe put up a winning season (bedside his first year when Goran carried the team) since he was coined the best player on the team? As for knight and Warren, correct me if my wrong but we were still **** before they were hurt. Weak just weak. And quoting Warren as a "key" piece that's even worse (and you want to be technical he is the 4th leading scorer at 11 while Morris is 11.6 (either way it's those numbers are laughable and not numbers to support your argument)).. Same stupid excuse 5 years running. And under the Bledsoe era...its 3 years running.

Bottom line is....you are what your record says you are!

Just stop. Same faulty logic over and over for 5 years. Has (Kevin Love, Anthony Davis, Demarcus Cousins) done (insert team-based statistic that completely ignores how good the individual is and how young or bad the teammates are) since he was coined the best player on the team? As for (insert player 2 or 3), correct me if I'm wrong (you are), but we were still **** before they were hurt (as a team, so again let's not factor in their youth or the youth of their teammates while ignoring that young teams don't win in this league, period). Weak, just weak. And quoting a 22 year old who is oneo f the most efficient scorers in the league at his age range is even worse (and if you want to be technical, let me quote a statistic that ignores the efficiency and is based on shots taken and minutes played primarily). Either way it's my inability to put volume statistics in context that is laughable and makes my argument ridiculous. Same stupid logic by me for 5 years running. Under the Bledsoe era...it's 3 years running.

Bottom line is...you are what your record says you are, because rebuilding doesn't exist and age doesn't matter in the NBA. That's why the Thunder were stupid for not breaking it up 7 years ago, and why Minnesota needs to trade Karl Anthony Towns and Andrew Wiggins for Marc Gasol and Al Horford immediately. What morons they are.

[Sunsdeuce]

When did Colangelo try to tank?

Sorry, should've been more specific:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10534698/tanking-talk-hot-topic-annual-sloan-conference

Bryan Colangelo revealed he wanted the 2011-12 Toronto Raptors, for whom he served as general manager, to lose.

"I tried to tank a couple years ago," Colangelo said. "And I didn't come out and say, 'Coach, you've got to lose games.' I never said that. I wanted to establish a winning tradition and a culture and all of that. But I wanted to do it in the framework of playing the young players, and with that, comes losing. There's just no way to avoid that."

Oh, I thought we were talking about the Suns. I don't think Jerry EVER tried to tank.

NAV is confusing Bryan with Jerry. Anyway, I will defend Jerry till I die. He gave me the best memories I have as a Suns fan (and as a teenage, going to Suns games in the 90s Suns was so fun and provided some of my best memories). I never will fault him for going broke "TRYING" to win. His heart and soul was the Suns.

[Sunsdeuce]

WE ARE MISSING OUR 3 TOP SCORERS. That is all.

Just stop. Same excuse over and over for 5 years. Has Bledsoe put up a winning season (bedside his first year when Goran carried the team) since he was coined the best player on the team? As for knight and Warren, correct me if my wrong but we were still **** before they were hurt. Weak just weak. And quoting Warren as a "key" piece that's even worse (and you want to be technical he is the 4th leading scorer at 11 while Morris is 11.6 (either way it's those numbers are laughable and not numbers to support your argument)).. Same stupid excuse 5 years running. And under the Bledsoe era...its 3 years running.

Bottom line is....you are what your record says you are!

Just stop. Same faulty logic over and over for 5 years. Has (Kevin Love, Anthony Davis, Demarcus Cousins) done (insert team-based statistic that completely ignores how good the individual is and how young or bad the teammates are) since he was coined the best player on the team? As for (insert player 2 or 3), correct me if I'm wrong (you are), but we were still **** before they were hurt (as a team, so again let's not factor in their youth or the youth of their teammates while ignoring that young teams don't win in this league, period). Weak, just weak. And quoting a 22 year old who is oneo f the most efficient scorers in the league at his age range is even worse (and if you want to be technical, let me quote a statistic that ignores the efficiency and is based on shots taken and minutes played primarily). Either way it's my inability to put volume statistics in context that is laughable and makes my argument ridiculous. Same stupid logic by me for 5 years running. Under the Bledsoe era...it's 3 years running.

Bottom line is...you are what your record says you are, because rebuilding doesn't exist and age doesn't matter in the NBA. That's why the Thunder were stupid for not breaking it up 7 years ago, and why Minnesota needs to trade Karl Anthony Towns and Andrew Wiggins for Pau Gasol and Nick Batum immediately. What morons they are.

/\ perfect exactly why Sarver is smiling and will continue because people like you accept losing.

This team is going to pass the Decade mark of losing and you will post the same weak excuse over and over. "It takes time to rebuild."

I'm going to bring up Keim and BA (and don't say it's a different sport BS). Everyone asked them how long it would take to rebuild the Cardinals. BAs answer...I ain't got time to rebuilding, we are going to win now!! I've seen the Cards with Bad Management (Rob Graves) and they were where the Suns are now. I've seen what good management (Keim) and now the Cards are the crown Jewel of AZ. Don't tell me good management doesn't make a difference.

[AtheJ415]

Watch it end up being to Miami for Whiteside in some epic trade in which Riley just doesn't care about the future because he won't be there.

[AtheJ415]

Just stop. Same excuse over and over for 5 years. Has Bledsoe put up a winning season (bedside his first year when Goran carried the team) since he was coined the best player on the team? As for knight and Warren, correct me if my wrong but we were still **** before they were hurt. Weak just weak. And quoting Warren as a "key" piece that's even worse (and you want to be technical he is the 4th leading scorer at 11 while Morris is 11.6 (either way it's those numbers are laughable and not numbers to support your argument)).. Same stupid excuse 5 years running. And under the Bledsoe era...its 3 years running.

Bottom line is....you are what your record says you are!

Just stop. Same faulty logic over and over for 5 years. Has (Kevin Love, Anthony Davis, Demarcus Cousins) done (insert team-based statistic that completely ignores how good the individual is and how young or bad the teammates are) since he was coined the best player on the team? As for (insert player 2 or 3), correct me if I'm wrong (you are), but we were still **** before they were hurt (as a team, so again let's not factor in their youth or the youth of their teammates while ignoring that young teams don't win in this league, period). Weak, just weak. And quoting a 22 year old who is oneo f the most efficient scorers in the league at his age range is even worse (and if you want to be technical, let me quote a statistic that ignores the efficiency and is based on shots taken and minutes played primarily). Either way it's my inability to put volume statistics in context that is laughable and makes my argument ridiculous. Same stupid logic by me for 5 years running. Under the Bledsoe era...it's 3 years running.

Bottom line is...you are what your record says you are, because rebuilding doesn't exist and age doesn't matter in the NBA. That's why the Thunder were stupid for not breaking it up 7 years ago, and why Minnesota needs to trade Karl Anthony Towns and Andrew Wiggins for Pau Gasol and Nick Batum immediately. What morons they are.

/\ perfect exactly why Sarver is smiling and will continue because people like you accept losing.

This team is going to pass the Decade mark of losing and you will post the same weak excuse over and over. "It takes time to rebuild." Yeah for its takes bad organizations about a decade while good ones don't wait 10 years.

Yup. Exactly. That's why the Wolves are morons for not trading Wiggins and Towns for guys who are better today. Winning today is the only thing that matters, regardless of the context. Age is a myth. The fountain of youth is real, and we need not concern ourselves with it or rebuilding.

[Saberestar]

Guys like Mirza Teletovic, P.J. Tucker have a lot of trade value on the market,” Paul Coro said. “Those are guys that could fit in to contending teams and would have value to be a role player. Teletovic has established his three-point shooting again, Tucker’s defense fits in just about anywhere.”

"With Markieff, as arduous as another 28 games would be, his value isn’t going to be much different come summer than now and nothing is on the line for them between now and then so if there’s not a deal that makes sense to them, they don’t have their feet to the fire to do it now.”

http://arizonasports.com/story/551757/coro-morris-trade-value-isnt-going-to-be-much-different-come-summer/

[Christine-In-AZ]

I believe it is quite likely the Suns will trade Markieff Morris before the deadline. There maybe another piece or two involved if the trade goes down.

I'm almost 100% sure we're in serious trade talks with other teams. I'd say I'm about 75% sure it's with any one of the eastern conference teams.

I really have no idea who might be coming back to the Suns from any of the more likely (15) eastern teams, but strangely I feel very strongly it'll be a young player. Wish I could even narrow it down, but there are just a ton of young guys around the league.

All of the above is a guess, but an educated one for sure, because I really do gather information on the NBA quite often.

[BobbieL]

I haven't been here in a while... But from what I can gather...

Suns are indeed in serious trade talks with an eastern conference team..

Keif and a couple other pieces for a young player.. Not sure who or what yet. Once I do, I'll let you know

My guess--the Bulls and we're trying to get Portis. Just a guess. Obviously wouldn't be had easily, but Kieff and a couple other pieces may be enough for a team that is trying to win now.

Kieff to Toronto for JJ, Scola, Wright and Cabolco

maybe add Weems and Tucker -- take back Ross

I just don't see the Suns getting much better than GOOD value. I don't see this trade knocking me off my chair good

[thamadkant]

Len, Morris, Tucker, Heat 2019 pick
For
Deng, Whiteside

With verbal commitment from Whiteside

[King4Day]

This x 1,000,000! He could win all his value trades and drafts. but the bottom line is we have one of the worst teams in suns history..

WE ARE MISSING OUR 3 TOP SCORERS. That is all.

Just stop. Same excuse over and over for 5 years. Has Bledsoe put up a winning season (bedside his first year when Goran carried the team) since he was coined the best player on the team? As for knight and Warren, correct me if my wrong but we were still **** before they were hurt. Weak just weak. And quoting Warren as a "key" piece that's even worse (and you want to be technical he is the 4th leading scorer at 11 while Morris is 11.6 (either way those numbers are laughable and not numbers to support your argument)).. Same stupid excuse 5 years running. And under the Bledsoe era...its 3 years running.

Good teams don't make excuses...bad teams have a bag full of them.

Bottom line is....you are what your record says you are!

It's cool if you guys want to go back and forth but I dunno if this is the right thread for it.
I might be the only one but I haven't been reading them which means they aren't related to trade ideas.