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Post#1121 » by Miklo » Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:54 pm

SSOL wrote:Who else did you want them to take at 15 and 45? Not to mention, they did draft Amare.


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Post#1122 » by grumpysaddle » Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:34 pm

Miklo wrote:
SSOL wrote:Who else did you want them to take at 15 and 45? Not to mention, they did draft Amare.


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Post#1123 » by JohnVancouver » Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:36 pm

I really like that Houston deal but you can see why HOU didn't want to waive physicals
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Post#1124 » by grumpysaddle » Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:41 pm

i'm excited that Melty-Face Scola didn't get traded to the Suns. i couldn't watch that thing every game.
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Post#1125 » by grumpysaddle » Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:44 pm

the only trade with houston i would have been okay with would be something where the suns would get this guy's huge expiring

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Post#1126 » by lilfishi22 » Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:46 pm

The Houston deal was much better than the Cleveland and Miami deal by a long shot.

We get a defensive vet in Battier who's been a consummate pro his whole career and we get a dirt worker in Scola. The Rockets 2010 pick would've pretty much been exactly the same as our 2010 pick had we not traded it away. Then we get a NY pick with crap protection.

But good move by Rockets GM to not waive the physical. I think they saw Amare as a long term option so it would've been smart to have thoroughly checked him out before doing the deal.
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Post#1127 » by ruiner » Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:09 pm

Waiving physicals thing makes no sense to ask. They said they would've ran out time? They would've had time. You process a trade before and then do that. Smells like BS.

Same article also says another source says Suns went to them and Houston turned it down.
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Post#1128 » by DirtyDez » Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:25 pm

Scola + RoLo that a good frontline. I would've preffered that deal over the other ecspecially if they gave us 2 picks. I would've liked to get Jordan Hill in return instead of Battier or Cook.
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Post#1129 » by Mr. Sun » Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:06 pm

Like I said before I think Kerry boy was very confident he could extend Amare. Here is what Amare had to say today as reported by Coro on AZRepublic:

Stoudemire said an extension was still a possibility, although he would not confirm our report that he did not ask for a maximum-level deal and that the Suns had offered two additional years beyond his player option for next season.

"Obviously, I want to have a sense of security," Stoudemire said. "With that being said, I'm not really going to get into the years and dollar signs right now. Ultimately, we just want to make sure that we both accomplish the decision we make and go from there. We haven't got to an agreement yet but we're getting there."
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Post#1130 » by SunS123 » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:05 pm

From what I understand and have read/been told the money is not the issue with the extension amare can agree on 14 to 15 a year but he wants more than three years and it seems Kerr and the suns are hesitant to do that
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Post#1131 » by justinb80 » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:08 pm

From the sound of his quote on KTAR, though, it seems like he wants to wait until the offseason before he decides if he wants to re-sign:

http://www.ktar.com/?nid=112&sid=1265381

Or, Stoudemire could sign a contract extension with the Suns, a subject that was approached in the last few weeks.

"I'm not sure," he said of what he is planning to do. "I'm just going to wait until this off-season to figure out what the best decision is," Stoudemire said.

If he is to sign an extension, Stoudemire said he most of all wants a sense of security.

"With that being said, we're not really going to get into the years and the dollar signs right now," he added.
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Post#1132 » by Mr. Sun » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:20 pm

Kerr could make it easy and just agree to Amare's counter offer and be done with it. Then tell Pat Riley the price has gone up over the summer LOL
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Post#1133 » by MaryvalesFinest » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:45 pm

justinb80 wrote:From the sound of his quote on KTAR, though, it seems like he wants to wait until the offseason before he decides if he wants to re-sign:

http://www.ktar.com/?nid=112&sid=1265381

Or, Stoudemire could sign a contract extension with the Suns, a subject that was approached in the last few weeks.

"I'm not sure," he said of what he is planning to do. "I'm just going to wait until this off-season to figure out what the best decision is," Stoudemire said.

If he is to sign an extension, Stoudemire said he most of all wants a sense of security.

"With that being said, we're not really going to get into the years and the dollar signs right now," he added.


Sounds like he's going to opting out...
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Post#1134 » by Mr. Sun » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:53 pm

MaryvalesFinest wrote:
justinb80 wrote:From the sound of his quote on KTAR, though, it seems like he wants to wait until the offseason before he decides if he wants to re-sign:

http://www.ktar.com/?nid=112&sid=1265381

Or, Stoudemire could sign a contract extension with the Suns, a subject that was approached in the last few weeks.

"I'm not sure," he said of what he is planning to do. "I'm just going to wait until this off-season to figure out what the best decision is," Stoudemire said.

If he is to sign an extension, Stoudemire said he most of all wants a sense of security.

"With that being said, we're not really going to get into the years and the dollar signs right now," he added.


Sounds like he's going to opting out...


Just as it sounded like Grand Hill was going to? Shame on KTAR for not quoting Amare's later remarks.
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Post#1135 » by Mr. Sun » Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:00 am

justinb80 wrote:From the sound of his quote on KTAR, though, it seems like he wants to wait until the offseason before he decides if he wants to re-sign:

http://www.ktar.com/?nid=112&sid=1265381

Or, Stoudemire could sign a contract extension with the Suns, a subject that was approached in the last few weeks.

"I'm not sure," he said of what he is planning to do. "I'm just going to wait until this off-season to figure out what the best decision is," Stoudemire said.

If he is to sign an extension, Stoudemire said he most of all wants a sense of security.

"With that being said, we're not really going to get into the years and the dollar signs right now," he added.


These appear to be older quotes the KTAR writer mixed in. I prefer more recent comments that came after today's shoot around from Amare: "We haven't got to an agreement yet but we're getting there."
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Post#1136 » by SunS123 » Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:02 am

Well he is gunna opt if they don't agree to a extension that's for sure
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Post#1137 » by nevetsov » Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:22 am

First off, the only way I would have accepted Scola in a trade is if he agreed to a haircut.

Next, let's say Wade, Bron, Bosh, JJ all resign with their current teams (possible); NY then wants Amare.

Using bird rights we could get back a resigned David Lee/ Chandler package on reasonable contracts (NY under the cap so no need to match salaries).

Nash/ Rich/ Chandler/ Lee/ Lopez with Dragic/ Barbosa/ Hill/ Dudley/ Clarke/ Frye/ Amundson would be better than anything we could have gotten in a trade anyway.. you could argue that Chandler+Lee = Battier+Scola but meh, at least we get 27 more games of the current team.

Or, if people don't consider that team good enough to be competitive, NY would still have enough room to take Nash off our books. Shame they don't have any picks left until 2047, Hill would likely also opt out and join them in NY.

Lots of flexibility this summer, good thing we didn't force a move just for the sake of it.
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Post#1138 » by Mr. Sun » Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:36 am

nevetsov wrote:Using bird rights we could get back a resigned David Lee/ Chandler package on reasonable contracts (NY under the cap so no need to match salaries).

Maybe after the new CBA becomes effective but I don't see any team wanting to sign Amare to more than 3 years and certainty not 5 or 6 years.
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Post#1139 » by JohnVancouver » Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:40 am

nevetsov wrote:First off, the only way I would have accepted Scola in a trade is if he agreed to a haircut.

Next, let's say Wade, Bron, Bosh, JJ all resign with their current teams (possible); NY then wants Amare.

Using bird rights we could get back a resigned David Lee/ Chandler package on reasonable contracts (NY under the cap so no need to match salaries).

Nash/ Rich/ Chandler/ Lee/ Lopez with Dragic/ Barbosa/ Hill/ Dudley/ Clarke/ Frye/ Amundson would be better than anything we could have gotten in a trade anyway.. you could argue that Chandler+Lee = Battier+Scola but meh, at least we get 27 more games of the current team.

Or, if people don't consider that team good enough to be competitive, NY would still have enough room to take Nash off our books. Shame they don't have any picks left until 2047, Hill would likely also opt out and join them in NY.

Lots of flexibility this summer, good thing we didn't force a move just for the sake of it.


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Post#1140 » by nevetsov » Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:50 am

Mr. Sun wrote:
nevetsov wrote:Using bird rights we could get back a resigned David Lee/ Chandler package on reasonable contracts (NY under the cap so no need to match salaries).

Maybe after the new CBA becomes effective but I don't see any team wanting to sign Amare to more than 3 years and certainty not 5 or 6 years.


Then that advantages the Suns, surely?

Either way, there is potential to make out with more than JJ freaking Hickson.

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