Draft Thread: Who do you want with the 13th pick? Stanley Johnson and WCS added..change votes if you want

[RunDogGun]

Sixers could use all 5 of their 2nd rounders to double their current talent base...

How many do they have under contract? They also give up on their picks before they even do anything,

[kennydorglas]

Suns draft workout: Quinn Cook, Duke; Tyler Haws, BYU; DJ Newbill, Penn St; Matt Stainbrook, Xavier; Aaron Thomas, FSU; Marcus Thornton, UGA

[RunDogGun]

Suns draft workout: Quinn Cook, Duke; Tyler Haws, BYU; DJ Newbill, Penn St; Matt Stainbrook, Xavier; Aaron Thomas, FSU; Marcus Thornton, UGA

It seems as if we are checking possible second rounders as well as looking possible guys that might go undrafted for summer league team? For me, it's a good thing, it appears as if we are getting better at scouting, and trying to find diamonds in the rough and on the cheap.

[carey]

I wouldn't freak out. This happened last year too. We brought in most of the 1st round guys towards the end of workouts.

[RunDogGun]

I wouldn't freak out. This happened last year too. We brought in most of the 1st round guys towards the end of workouts.

Yep, I think McD just likes to check players out to see if his scouting is accurate. Plus if he can make a move that brings in another later pick, he has information and prospects.

[Damkac]

I'm surprised that I haven't seen any mention of the Suns taking Looney at 13. He seems like the kind of upside pick that McDonough would like, especially with their need at backup PF and need for rebounding. Do you think he is too raw for where their team is at right now?

Chad Ford

Probably. Looney has enormous upside, but the learning curve scares teams right now. He hasn't quite figured out what he is. And it could take time. Not sure the Suns will have that sort of patience. Especially with players like Kaminsky, Devin Booker, Bobby Portis that could help right now.

http://m.espn.go.com/general/chat/chat? ... nd=ref~%7B"ref"%3A"http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2Fz5xa8prWg2"%7D

typical win-now bull from the Suns as usual

I can rationalize taking Kaminsky there, Booker too somewhat

but no way in hell would I take Portis over Looney

I couldn't believe when McD said he'll think about trading out/down of the draft because we can too many young players

I hope Sarver isn't pushing the playoffs down our throats

This sucks

[thamadkant]

McD has always said he is pro "long term".

But I think Sarver and the Executives are pushing for the next 2-3 seasons to make the playoffs so the team makes more money.

Its just the nature of the business, ownership wants money.... GMs want a sustainable on court successful team.

[bwgood77]

Sort of off subject, but Bgwood, what do you think of the FIFA corruption indictments? Still think corporations would not risk their name and reputations?

I missed this post, and I guess the news, so I don't have any idea what you are talking about. I still certainly don't think a worldwide accounting firm would risk being involved with a fixed draft (if they knew about it) if that is the question.

[Phnxsports]

I might be on an island but I like Portis. Id take him over Kaminsky or Looney easily.

[JMac1]

I might be on an island but I like Portis. Id take him over Kaminsky or Looney easily.

Maybe on an island here, but not the big board.

I'd have to really check out his game before I dismiss him.

[bwgood77]

Portis is a stud, but the problem is, when he went up against a big time team, like Kentucky, they had so much depth to throw at him with Towns, Cauley-Stein and Lyles that when those guys double team the only really good player on the team it makes it tough...plus WCS had two years experience (which is the main reason he is highly overrated...when he was a frosh or soph he wasn't highly rated...he plays for a historic deep team, as a jr, and still isn't a great rebounder or scorer and he is ranked high...don't buy it).

[Saberestar]

Sources: Suns will bring in Jerian Grant, JP Tokoto, Richaun Holmes, Olivier Hanlan, Darrun Hilliard & Darion Atkins for a workout tomorrow.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeAScotto/ ... 5158579200
Jerian Grant, first big name in the workouts.

[ATTL]

If the suns trade out of the draft this will be another wasted year with nothing to show for it. I doubt Mcdee trades out. I will be even more disenfranchised if that happens.

[kennydorglas]

RICHAUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN (L)
Oh boy, finally a great group.

Tokoto/Holmes/Hilliard/Atkins are severely underapreciated right now.

[RunDogGun]

Sort of off subject, but Bgwood, what do you think of the FIFA corruption indictments? Still think corporations would not risk their name and reputations?

I missed this post, and I guess the news, so I don't have any idea what you are talking about. I still certainly don't think a worldwide accounting firm would risk being involved with a fixed draft (if they knew about it) if that is the question.

I just don't know. It all depends on if they think there is no way anyone finds out. The FIFA corruption has been going on for twenty years, right?

I guess we will just have to wait and see. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and say it's legit. But I think I might start laying down bets on some of the draft choices, and see if my hunches actually bear fruit.

I just remember all the Spurs fans on the ESPN board asking why any ref would call games in favor of the Spurs,and then Donaghy thing came out. Money changes everything.

[RunDogGun]

If the suns trade out of the draft this will be another wasted year with nothing to show for it. I doubt Mcdee trades out. I will be even more disenfranchised if that happens.

I don't see us trading out of the draft unless it leads to a major piece that the FO has had its eye on for a bit.

[Saberestar]

In his latest interview, Paul Coro speaks about three players that are a possibility to be selected at #13....
Devin Booker, Cameron Payne and Montzrell Harrell.
I think that Harrell is a reach at #13, but probably I am wrong. I like him, and his intensity and defense are great to have in any team so probably he is a very good option at #13 if he is available.

Here is the interview.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/brightside ... cast-52815

[NavLDO]

In his latest interview, Paul Coro speaks about three players that are a possibility to be selected at #13....
Devin Booker, Cameron Payne and Montzrell Harrell.
I think that Harrell is a reach at #13, but probably I am wrong. I like him, and his intensity and defense are great to have in any team so probably he is a very good option at #13 if he is available.

Here is the interview.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/brightside ... cast-52815

I tell you, some playoff team is just going to get richer with selecting Harrell. I don't care if it's a reach, I'd love to have someone with Harrell's intensity on this team. Sure, PJ has it, but Harrell has the talent to go along with it. And with a 7'4" Wingspan and 9'1" reach, I couldn't care less if he's 6'7.5", he's also 253lbs--better to be stout, long than tall. Kieff at 6'9.5" 235 with his what, 6'11" wingspan and 8'10.5" reach--really, who would you rather have from a strictly measurement perspective?

It won't happen, but I'd love for McD to trade back a few and grab Harrell--one of my favorite prospects. I didn't vote for him here, because the question was for "@ 13", but honestly, I wouldn't be upset at all if McD 'reached' there with Harrell.

[bwgood77]

Sort of off subject, but Bgwood, what do you think of the FIFA corruption indictments? Still think corporations would not risk their name and reputations?

I missed this post, and I guess the news, so I don't have any idea what you are talking about. I still certainly don't think a worldwide accounting firm would risk being involved with a fixed draft (if they knew about it) if that is the question.

I just don't know. It all depends on if they think there is no way anyone finds out. The FIFA corruption has been going on for twenty years, right?

I guess we will just have to wait and see. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and say it's legit. But I think I might start laying down bets on some of the draft choices, and see if my hunches actually bear fruit.

I just remember all the Spurs fans on the ESPN board asking why any ref would call games in favor of the Spurs,and then Donaghy thing came out. Money changes everything.

Sure, for Donaghy and an individual, money can change things, but for a billion dollar worldwide accounting firm, it's not worth the risk. Not even close. Even if they thought there was a 99.99% no one would ever find out?

And there would have to be some crazy **** going on for it to be fixed anyway. Do you know what the process is? It's not like one ping pong ball comes out. One comes out, then they put it back in, and then do it again, and another one (or that same one) comes out. They are all weighed.

I am not completely sure if Ernst & Young does the drawing or just delivers the results into the next room. But anyway, there are reps from each team as witnesses to the process.

If it was one ball that determined it, or an envelope like the old days, then I could see it as a remote possibility. And I'm not someone who is against any and every conspiracy theory. This one is just one of the ones that doesn't really benefit teams financially enough to make it worthwhile. You'd think the Knicks or Celtics would have won the lottery at least once as of late if it was.

It's not really worth discussing too much, though, because you obviously have your suspicions, and we probably have far different perceptions of things based on our experiences in industry.

[bwgood77]

In his latest interview, Paul Coro speaks about three players that are a possibility to be selected at #13....
Devin Booker, Cameron Payne and Montzrell Harrell.
I think that Harrell is a reach at #13, but probably I am wrong. I like him, and his intensity and defense are great to have in any team so probably he is a very good option at #13 if he is available.

Here is the interview.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/brightside ... cast-52815

I tell you, some playoff team is just going to get richer with selecting Harrell. I don't care if it's a reach, I'd love to have someone with Harrell's intensity on this team. Sure, PJ has it, but Harrell has the talent to go along with it. And with a 7'4" Wingspan and 9'1" reach, I couldn't care less if he's 6'7.5", he's also 253lbs--better to be stout, long than tall. Kieff at 6'9.5" 235 with his what, 6'11" wingspan and 8'10.5" reach--really, who would you rather have from a strictly measurement perspective?

It won't happen, but I'd love for McD to trade back a few and grab Harrell--one of my favorite prospects. I didn't vote for him here, because the question was for "@ 13", but honestly, I wouldn't be upset at all if McD 'reached' there with Harrell.

I hadn't seen this, but when I merged the poll thread with this one so we could stick to one draft thread, I lost the poll so I re-created it and decided to put Harrell as an option instead of WCS since he is unlikely to be there anyway and I knew Harrell had been mentioned by some in the past.

I'd rather go for someone with more size, who likely is younger with more upside and perhaps better range and play making ability though.