NBA Draft and NCAA Basketball

kennydorglas · Post #1161 » by **kennydorglas** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:47 am

Day 1 impact? It's Bamba for me.

ImNotMcDiSwear · Post #1162 » by **ImNotMcDiSwear** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:55 am

kennydorglas wrote:Day 1 impact? It's Bamba for me.

I think Bamba is the most exciting prospect, FWIW. Bu our trainers would have to work triple overtime to protect that guy from what seems to me to be inevitable injury. They've done a great job with Len.

Post #1163 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:09 am

kennydorglas wrote:Day 1 impact? It's Bamba for me.

I thought about Bamba since we're in desperate need of a defensive anchor who can cover our wings/guards defensive weaknesses but I really can't see Bamba having an impact on Day 1

NTB · Post #1164 » by **NTB** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:22 am

How do you guys compare Bamba and JJJ?

NTB · Post #1165 » by **NTB** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:35 am

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darealjuice · Post #1167 » by **darealjuice** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:40 am

NTB wrote:How do you guys compare Bamba and JJJ?

I'd say that JJJ has more going on in his game on offense right now as far as shooting the ball well, dribbling the ball, and doing more than tip dunks/drop offs on offense. From what I've seen of Bamba, he is more of a clean-up big and screen/roll guy on offense right now with the makings of having a decent 3 point shot eventually.

Bamba's shot blocking, size, length, and mobility have the makings of a DPOY though. He just has traits you can't teach that can make him dominant on that end. JJJ is no one to scoff at either though, he's been a very good defender and rim protector from what I've seen.

darealjuice · Post #1168 » by **darealjuice** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:43 am

Bummed I couldn't catch the game tonight, seems like Trae had a really efficient game against my guys though. Hopefully I can find a replay somewhere tonight.

Post #1169 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:44 am

NTB wrote:How do you guys compare Bamba and JJJ?

He might not have the generational type defensive potential of Bamba but I feel JJJ is more complete offensive player and has a higher cellar although not as high a ceiling. JJJ has range on his shot (25 of 56 3PTs), better touch around the rim, better court vision and comparable shot blocking (14.5% vs 15.4% BLK% from Bamba). Bamba is a better and more consistent rebounder at this point and has shown he can stay on the floor.

Post #1170 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:46 am

darealjuice wrote:
NTB wrote:How do you guys compare Bamba and JJJ?

I'd say that JJJ has more going on in his game on offense right now as far as shooting the ball well, dribbling the ball, and doing more than tip dunks/drop offs on offense. From what I've seen of Bamba, he is more of a clean-up big and screen/roll guy on offense right now with the makings of having a decent 3 point shot eventually.

Bamba's shot blocking, size, length, and mobility have the makings of a DPOY though. He just has traits you can't teach that can make him dominant on that end. JJJ is no one to scoff at either though, he's been a very good defender and rim protector from what I've seen.

Could certainly argue JJJ is the best defensive prospect in this draft if not for Bamba also being in the same draft. I still lean away from Bamba because I feel like he has the highest bust potential in that top 5-7 of the draft.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #1171 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:30 am

Super impressed by Trae Young.

Jaren Jackson since December (14 games): 25 minutes - 13 points, 6 rebounds, 4 blocks on 60/50/80 shooting.
Mo Bamba since December (13 games): 32 minutes - 13 points, 11 rebounds, 4 blocks on 60/30/60 shooting

Damkac · Post #1172 » by **Damkac** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:38 am

I prefer JJJ over Bamba. He is much more versatile and fits the modern NBA much better. They have the same blocks/40 minutes: 5.7 but JJJ can also guard smaller players, not only protect the rim. He is also good shooter. Bamba tries to shoot 3s but he is bad at this. Bamba is better at rebounding and not fouling as much.
Jackson could be somebody like Draymond Green minus passing but with more blocks.

Looks like I'm in the majority here:
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1643978

kennydorglas · Post #1173 » by **kennydorglas** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:12 pm

It's really a 50/50 call between JJJ and Bamba.
Both have unique traits (JJJ = insane motor and prodigious offense at 18 / Bamba = DPOY potential and intriguing touch)

One thing to add tho: Bamba is 'creating' a lot of his offense (44% unast'd at the rim/83% midrange/even got 1 unast'd 3PTM)

RunDogGun · Post #1174 » by **RunDogGun** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:04 pm

How do we pass on Shai? He is a Canadian pg from Kentucky.

Post #1175 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:43 pm

RunDogGun wrote:How do we pass on Shai? He is a Canadian pg from Kentucky.

Well, we passed on Jamal Murray, who isn't exactly lighting the world on fire, except against us the other night.

Also, Archie, BK, EB and Ulis haven't all exactly panned out well.

Maybe we should stick to Canadian point guards from smaller schools and Kentucky shooting guards (though Murray is actually more of a SG).

I do like Shai though...at least what I've read and studied about him..haven't watched him much.

Blonde · Post #1176 » by **Blonde** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:39 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:How do we pass on Shai? He is a Canadian pg from Kentucky.

Well, we passed on Jamal Murray, who isn't exactly lighting the world on fire, except against us the other night.

Also, Archie, BK, EB and Ulis haven't all exactly panned out well.

Maybe we should stick to Canadian point guards from smaller schools and Kentucky shooting guards (though Murray is actually more of a SG).

I do like Shai though...at least what I've read and studied about him..haven't watched him much.

I think we may have taken Murray had we not had Bledsoe and Knight on the roster, two other shoot first Kentucky guards haha. I've heard Shai described as "not a Kentucky point guard" in playstyle and I think I'd agree with that. He's not a shoot first guy. He only takes 9 FGA per game (compared to Murray's 15 and Knight's 13.5 at Kentucky), and looks to be quite efficient so far shooting 47.5, 42.3, and 82.4 on the season. He's also 6'6" with a reported wingspan of 6'11" which breaks the mold of smaller Kentucky guards. My main takeaway from watching is that he seems under control all the time, but it's hard to tell anything with this Kentucky team. I think he projects to be a good fit next to Booker in time.

There haven't been a lot of tall point guards that I can think of recently that can shoot the ball (looking at MCW, Livingston, Ball).

Walt_Uoob · Post #1177 » by **Walt_Uoob** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:43 pm

Has Bamba played any big important games or against other top prospects yet? I read this incredibly glowing scouting report on Hasheem Thabeet [http://www.nbadraft.net/players/hasheem-thabeet] that has me really worried about Bamba's bust potential. Are there big differences in their games that make any of you sure Bamba is more of a Gobert than a Thabeet?

Post #1178 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:48 pm

Walt_Uoob wrote:Has Bamba played any big important games or against other top prospects yet? I read this incredibly glowing scouting report on Hasheem Thabeet [http://www.nbadraft.net/players/hasheem-thabeet] that has me really worried about Bamba's bust potential. Are there big differences in their games that make any of you sure Bamba is more of a Gobert than a Thabeet?

I've thought about Hasheem Thabeet too when thinking of Bamba, who was taken at #2 in the Curry/Harden draft. Blake Griffin went 1. That's why I'd have a hard time taking Bamba over Doncic and Young. Bagley is probably more like the Blake in that scenario.

Walt_Uoob · Post #1179 » by **Walt_Uoob** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:02 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Walt_Uoob wrote:Has Bamba played any big important games or against other top prospects yet? I read this incredibly glowing scouting report on Hasheem Thabeet [http://www.nbadraft.net/players/hasheem-thabeet] that has me really worried about Bamba's bust potential. Are there big differences in their games that make any of you sure Bamba is more of a Gobert than a Thabeet?

I've thought about Hasheem Thabeet too when thinking of Bamba, who was taken at #2 in the Curry/Harden draft. Blake Griffin went 1. That's why I'd have a hard time taking Bamba over Doncic and Young. Bagley is probably more like the Blake in that scenario.

Yeah Bamba is feeling more like an interesting consolation prize in the 7-12 range than a top-5 guy. I think on a big board I'd have to put him after Doncic, Ayton, Young, Porter, Bagley, Jackson, and Mikal Bridges for sure, and maybe some others.

Post #1180 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:34 pm

Walt_Uoob wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Walt_Uoob wrote:Has Bamba played any big important games or against other top prospects yet? I read this incredibly glowing scouting report on Hasheem Thabeet [http://www.nbadraft.net/players/hasheem-thabeet] that has me really worried about Bamba's bust potential. Are there big differences in their games that make any of you sure Bamba is more of a Gobert than a Thabeet?

I've thought about Hasheem Thabeet too when thinking of Bamba, who was taken at #2 in the Curry/Harden draft. Blake Griffin went 1. That's why I'd have a hard time taking Bamba over Doncic and Young. Bagley is probably more like the Blake in that scenario.

Yeah Bamba is feeling more like an interesting consolation prize in the 7-12 range than a top-5 guy. I think on a big board I'd have to put him after Doncic, Ayton, Young, Porter, Bagley, Jackson, and Mikal Bridges for sure, and maybe some others.

Yeah, I'm not sure where I'd take him either and would probably put him in that range too (though it depends on how this college season plays out). There is a good chance I'll see him vs Trae Young when Oklahoma comes to Austin to play UT, so I'll get a closer look and may have more of a concrete opinion. Even guys like Miles Bridges are pretty impressive.

He could be a game changer but he could be somewhat of a raw bust and our team cannot afford that at this point. Of course anyone could be a bust, but some seem far less likely.

Who would you take at 3 if Ayton/Doncic gone?