2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III

[Daddy 801]

Trade em all. Neither Booker with his empty stats, Durant with his garbage, and Beal with his....literally nothing memorable whatsoever matter at all to this franchise.

None of those players matter. They never have mattered.

Absolutely worthless roster. Mercenary garbage sucks. Boring, soulless crap. Keep Dunn and whatever two or three other new players and get rid of everyone else by the deadline for whatever the **** you can get.

Never wanna see those fools in Suns jerseys ever again.

If you’re tearing down the house Clarkson and Collins work for Booker. Clearly the start of the assets included in your pick back. How much more after than I don’t know. But if Booker really was available the Jazz would be in the mix. Don’t know if they could be the Rockets offer though.

[mkot]

As a Heat fan i’ve seen Butler do some pretty heroic things with a lot less than you guys have. I think he’s an absolute perfect fit between Durant and Booker. If he’s engaged he becomes superhuman in the playoffs hence the term “Playoff Jimmy”.

No one wins with garbage, Jimmy has Bam and role players who are dawg in their roles. We lack speed and athleticism on the perimeter, we lack defense and rebounding in the interior, and most of all we lack toughness, Jimmy alone won't magically fix everything. I do think he is a better fit and make us a tougher team that makes us a play-in team, just like when Jimmy was with the Heat and then get bounced in the first round and hopefully it's a 7 game series so Ishibia can sell more hotdogs.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Wiggins and Kuminga are ok! But I'd almost rather have those post 27 and beyond Warriors picks and a couple of their younger players/ salary fillers instead.

[Calvin Klein]

Quick question for Suns fans. How would you guys feel about Beal if a trade leaks out that he ended up flexing his NTC that cost you both Butler and resulted in trading Durant. I saw recently his wife get heckled at a game. Do you think the narrative heightens and just becomes an irreversible awkward situation between him and the fan base?

He would become my absolute hero. Seriously.

[Calvin Klein]

These last few years watching Ishbia and Jones trade off all our teams assets...

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This is such a great meme.

Here you have Ishbia and Jones chasing a ring with this roster.

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[RayLight]

Taking a couple of 1st round picks + Wiggins and Kuminga (obviously some fillers will be needed for the salaries to match) would be huge and should be done if possible.

Then, trade Booker to Houston for our picks + Galen Green and Tompson.

Ask Beal for which team he will agree to be traded and do the trade for a pick and a young player.

Combine Nurk, Royce, and Allen for more picks and a few young players with potential.

This is how a proper rebuild should be done.

No illusions that the current team can beat any team from the top 6 in the West or whoever is the finalist from the East.

[BobbieL]

Taking a couple of 1st round picks + Wiggins and Kuminga (obviously some fillers will be needed for the salaries to match) would be huge and should be done if possible.

Then, trade Booker to Houston for our picks + Galen Green and Tompson.

Ask Beal for which team he will agree to be traded and do the trade for a pick and a young player.

Combine Nurk, Royce, and Allen for more picks and a few young players with potential.

This is how a proper rebuild should be done.

No illusions that the current team can beat any team from the top 6 in the West or whoever is the finalist from the East.

Might have to attach a pick with Beal but might be worth it.

Would he go to the bucks for expiring

Or maybe a three team deal with bucks and bulls

But the other five names - for sure. Throw in Jones for a 2028 second round pick

[Fo-Real]

Quick question for Suns fans. How would you guys feel about Beal if a trade leaks out that he ended up flexing his NTC that cost you both Butler and resulted in trading Durant. I saw recently his wife get heckled at a game. Do you think the narrative heightens and just becomes an irreversible awkward situation between him and the fan base?

Beal is a stand up guy. I don’t think there will be ill will against him. Besides, he isn’t the problem. Our owner and GM are problem.

I disagree. I think people will be awful to him (undeservedly). This fanbase is getting very good at creating a toxic narrative around players recently (see Ayton, Nurkic, now Beal) and I dont see that changing if he decides to look out for himself n his family, unfortunately. I hope Im wrong but...

Well there are idiots in every fanbase, but you just have to realize that they are just that.... IDIOTS!

[BobbieL]

Quick question for Suns fans. How would you guys feel about Beal if a trade leaks out that he ended up flexing his NTC that cost you both Butler and resulted in trading Durant. I saw recently his wife get heckled at a game. Do you think the narrative heightens and just becomes an irreversible awkward situation between him and the fan base?

He would become my absolute hero. Seriously.

He would be my hero too! SAving the Suns and Ishbia from themseles
I would actually want Beal traded - if possible - if there is backlash that "god forbid the Suns didn't trade 3 FRPs to get Jimmy Butler!!!!"

Not sure he would be deserving of the backlash

[49erhokie827]

Today would be a good day for a Butler trade. Lets go Ishbia.

[King4Day]

Taking a couple of 1st round picks + Wiggins and Kuminga (obviously some fillers will be needed for the salaries to match) would be huge and should be done if possible.

Then, trade Booker to Houston for our picks + Galen Green and Tompson.

Ask Beal for which team he will agree to be traded and do the trade for a pick and a young player.

Combine Nurk, Royce, and Allen for more picks and a few young players with potential.

This is how a proper rebuild should be done.

No illusions that the current team can beat any team from the top 6 in the West or whoever is the finalist from the East.

I don't foresee the Rockets ever moving Thompson at this point, and Beal will require at least 2 firsts to get off his contract. But this type of scenario would make me so happy.

[King4Day]

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This tells me the Heat are pressuring him to commit to another team.
I expect he'll be dealt to another team for just matching salaries and a 2nd rounder. That's it. Half year rental.

[Saberestar]

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This tells me the Heat are pressuring him to commit to another team.
I expect he'll be dealt to another team for just matching salaries and a 2nd rounder. That's it. Half year rental.

Jimmy is ALL Suns now. He really envisions himself as the perfect fit next to KD and Book doing all the other stuff that they can't do...defense, toughness, dribble penetration...

I think he is right about his potential fit on the team.

2 days.

[dremill24]

Quick question for Suns fans. How would you guys feel about Beal if a trade leaks out that he ended up flexing his NTC that cost you both Butler and resulted in trading Durant. I saw recently his wife get heckled at a game. Do you think the narrative heightens and just becomes an irreversible awkward situation between him and the fan base?

He would become my absolute hero. Seriously.

He would be my hero too! SAving the Suns and Ishbia from themseles
I would actually want Beal traded - if possible - if there is backlash that "god forbid the Suns didn't trade 3 FRPs to get Jimmy Butler!!!!"

Not sure he would be deserving of the backlash

Not criticizing, just curious...

What is the specific reason that Butler would be such a non-starter at this point? Is it just Butler himself, not into bringing the chaos?

I ask because they already dealt their '31 1st, so that lifeline has been let go. Even without him, they've already signed up for one more potential year in the wilderness. If they dont end up with Butler, those picks they got arent exactly looking like good ones and I'd be shocked if they didnt get dealt anyway. It seems like its either trade them for Jimmy or trade them for some lower end rotation pieces. Do you prefer that route over Butler?

Or are you thinking if they dont get Jimmy then they still might start a retool/rebuild this summer?

Like I said Im not even necessarily disagreeing with you, just asking.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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This tells me the Heat are pressuring him to commit to another team.
I expect he'll be dealt to another team for just matching salaries and a 2nd rounder. That's it. Half year rental.

Jimmy is ALL Suns now. He really envisions himself as the perfect fit next to KD and Book doing all the other stuff that they can't do...defense, toughness, dribble penetration...

I think he is right about his potential fit on the team.

2 days.

Rest assured you guys will be heading the most highly motivated out for blood Jimmy there is. He’s going to do everything in his power to vault the Suns and rub it in Pat Riley’s face. He’s so damn petty and you guys will reap the rewards for atleast this season and next before he goes into Jimmy retirement mode. You’ll love him until he makes you hate him but the short term ride might be worth it for you guys with Durant and Book.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[49erhokie827]

Booker is not going to traded nor do I see him asking for a trade so for those fantasizing about booker trades, just stop it.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Taking a couple of 1st round picks + Wiggins and Kuminga (obviously some fillers will be needed for the salaries to match) would be huge and should be done if possible.

Then, trade Booker to Houston for our picks + Galen Green and Tompson.

Ask Beal for which team he will agree to be traded and do the trade for a pick and a young player.

Combine Nurk, Royce, and Allen for more picks and a few young players with potential.

This is how a proper rebuild should be done.

No illusions that the current team can beat any team from the top 6 in the West or whoever is the finalist from the East.

I don't foresee the Rockets ever moving Thompson at this point, and Beal will require at least 2 firsts to get off his contract. But this type of scenario would make me so happy.

TBH I don't see why Houston would trade for Booker. Jalen Green is on the upswing and on a reasonable contract. And while know that he's better than this sounds, Booker's a max contract 10 year vet with 1 All-Star appearance in the last 3 seasons. Most importantly, Houston's winning, and we're not. If I'm Houston, I'm keeping our picks.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Is anyone else shocked that we're listening to offers on Durant?

BTW... we traded like 6 picks with good young talent for Durant. It seemed like the draft compensation needed to pull off a deal was skyrocketing higher and higher. Then LA gets Doncic for... just.... 1?

Yikes. If that doesn't reset the market, it must at least affect how GMs are thinking about sending mulitple draft picks for lesser stars.

[KdoubleDees23]

I wouldnt trade booker at all!

Say F it and get Butler for Beal and a couple picks.

Trade Nurkic for Rui


Run

Tyus Jones / Monte Morris
Booker / Allen
Butler / Dunn
KD / Rui
Richards / Plumlee