College basketball and 2017 draft - One more poll after last game

Mulhollanddrive · Post #1181 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:36 am

Seems like the draft stock in our range is getting worse.

Isaac, Smith, Ball, Monk with a really quiet month so far.

Jackson, Fultz not playing.

Zelaznyrules · Post #1182 » by **Zelaznyrules** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:43 am

What am I missing? Why is there so little talk about Fultz missing all these games. Is no one concerned about his knee?

OGBAH · Post #1183 » by **OGBAH** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:44 am

Fultz is was in tank mode hopefully

Post #1184 » by **ATTL** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:01 am

Zelaznyrules wrote:What am I missing? Why is there so little talk about Fultz missing all these games. Is no one concerned about his knee?

You're right, there's almost no news about it. If he hides medical records like dunn did last summer I'll have more concerns.

Zelaznyrules · Post #1185 » by **Zelaznyrules** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:02 am

OGBAH wrote:Fultz is was in tank mode hopefully

But why would they release that it was because of his knee? I'm pretty sure that's not something the school is allowed to lie about either. And the rumors about his knee problems started a few games before he actually started sitting out.

Stix · Post #1186 » by **Stix** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:13 am

Anyone else enjoying Lonzo Ball get exposed vs Arizona right now?

I won't deny his good court vision, but that shot is beyond terrible.

MrMiyagi · Post #1187 » by **MrMiyagi** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:20 am

Zero Tolerance wrote:Anyone else enjoying Lonzo Ball get exposed vs Arizona right now?

I won't deny his good court vision, but that shot is beyond terrible.

You and your speaking too damn soon. :evil:

Post #1188 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:32 am

If Markkanen keeps playing like this, he will be tough to pass up. If you are 7 foot and can hit the 3 like that, and tonight he is showing some serious defense, rebounding, block, steal...

He may end up being the case where, if he has a chance to be the next Dirk or close to it, don't pass on him because of Bender. You let those guys figure it out and just rotate him, Chriss and Bender in the front court.

And WHO didn't like Alkins?

Post #1189 » by **ATTL** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:34 am

Trier with our 2nd rounder?

Stix · Post #1190 » by **Stix** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:40 am

MrMiyagi wrote:
Zero Tolerance wrote:Anyone else enjoying Lonzo Ball get exposed vs Arizona right now?

I won't deny his good court vision, but that shot is beyond terrible.

You and your speaking too damn soon.

lucky shot

Stix · Post #1191 » by **Stix** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:42 am

ATTL wrote:Trier with our 2nd rounder?

Extremely underrated, I think his draft stock goes way up during this years tournament. Mid-Late First IMO.

MrMiyagi · Post #1192 » by **MrMiyagi** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:02 am

bwgood77 wrote:If Markkanen keeps playing like this, he will be tough to pass up. If you are 7 foot and can hit the 3 like that, and tonight he is showing some serious defense, rebounding, block, steal...

He may end up being the case where, if he has a chance to be the next Dirk or close to it, don't pass on him because of Bender. You let those guys figure it out and just rotate him, Chriss and Bender in the front court.

And WHO didn't like Alkins?

I was thinking the same thing about Markannen. He's been playing defense, which was what I was most worried about. I would really love to see him in a Suns jersey.

YouTube · Post #1193 » by **Kerrsed** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:48 am

MrMiyagi wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:If Markkanen keeps playing like this, he will be tough to pass up. If you are 7 foot and can hit the 3 like that, and tonight he is showing some serious defense, rebounding, block, steal...

He may end up being the case where, if he has a chance to be the next Dirk or close to it, don't pass on him because of Bender. You let those guys figure it out and just rotate him, Chriss and Bender in the front court.

And WHO didn't like Alkins?

I was thinking the same thing about Markannen. He's been playing defense, which was what I was most worried about. I would really love to see him in a Suns jersey.

Its still a major issue. His defense has been horrible, but seems like he just really stepped it up during the Tourney. If he can defend like he has been, whats been stopping him all season long? Laziness? Not caring? I just think it raises more questions knowing that he can, but just hasnt until now, when the most eyes (and scouts eyes) are on him.

Post #1194 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:58 am

Kerrsed wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:If Markkanen keeps playing like this, he will be tough to pass up. If you are 7 foot and can hit the 3 like that, and tonight he is showing some serious defense, rebounding, block, steal...

He may end up being the case where, if he has a chance to be the next Dirk or close to it, don't pass on him because of Bender. You let those guys figure it out and just rotate him, Chriss and Bender in the front court.

And WHO didn't like Alkins?

I was thinking the same thing about Markannen. He's been playing defense, which was what I was most worried about. I would really love to see him in a Suns jersey.

Its still a major issue. His defense has been horrible, but seems like he just really stepped it up during the Tourney. If he can defend like he has been, whats been stopping him all season long? Laziness? Not caring? I just think it raises more questions knowing that he can, but just hasnt until now, when the most eyes (and scouts eyes) are on him.

Probably he just wasn't used to having to defend...it never mattered before. He could dominate. Every team he ever played on won and that was all that mattered. Coaching. Sean Miller is all about defense. He demonstrated it and knew he had to for the team. Most young players that come into the league never really had to play defense. Demonstrating the ability they can is what is important. He will have to in the NBA to get a lot of playing time. He is already playing better than Kaminsky did as a senior and he is a freshman. I don't think any 7 footer in college as a freshman EVER shot 3s like he is doing. He is special.

DirtyDez · Post #1195 » by **DirtyDez** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:18 am

I want to see it vs Oregon. I'm always careful about not overreacting to games vs UCLA because they don't play defense. Leaf and Welsch are embarrassingly bad defenders.

Win or lose I'd happily take #2 in the West or Midwest.

MrMiyagi · Post #1196 » by **MrMiyagi** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:20 am

Kerrsed wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:If Markkanen keeps playing like this, he will be tough to pass up. If you are 7 foot and can hit the 3 like that, and tonight he is showing some serious defense, rebounding, block, steal...

He may end up being the case where, if he has a chance to be the next Dirk or close to it, don't pass on him because of Bender. You let those guys figure it out and just rotate him, Chriss and Bender in the front court.

And WHO didn't like Alkins?

I was thinking the same thing about Markannen. He's been playing defense, which was what I was most worried about. I would really love to see him in a Suns jersey.

Its still a major issue. His defense has been horrible, but seems like he just really stepped it up during the Tourney. If he can defend like he has been, whats been stopping him all season long? Laziness? Not caring? I just think it raises more questions knowing that he can, but just hasnt until now, when the most eyes (and scouts eyes) are on him.

Since when should player improvement be met with suspicion? Especially from a freshman?

Zelaznyrules · Post #1197 » by **Zelaznyrules** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:06 am

MrMiyagi wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:I was thinking the same thing about Markannen. He's been playing defense, which was what I was most worried about. I would really love to see him in a Suns jersey.

Its still a major issue. His defense has been horrible, but seems like he just really stepped it up during the Tourney. If he can defend like he has been, whats been stopping him all season long? Laziness? Not caring? I just think it raises more questions knowing that he can, but just hasnt until now, when the most eyes (and scouts eyes) are on him.

Since when should player improvement be met with suspicion? Especially from a freshman?

Especially from a freshman from a foreign country whose had to learn and play all 3 front-court positions this season due to injuries and a suspension.

Zelaznyrules · Post #1198 » by **Zelaznyrules** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:10 am

Zero Tolerance wrote:
ATTL wrote:Trier with our 2nd rounder?

Extremely underrated, I think his draft stock goes way up during this years tournament. Mid-Late First IMO.

I don't think the scouts are as ignorant about him as the mock draft sites seem to be. IMO he's already penciled in as a solid first rounder no matter how his tourney goes but he could be a possible lottery pick if he were to carry the Cats to the Final Four. My guess, he'll go in the mid to late teens.

Foliohattu · Post #1199 » by **Foliohattu** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:22 am

bwgood77 wrote:Probably he just wasn't used to having to defend...it never mattered before. He could dominate. Every team he ever played on won and that was all that mattered. Coaching. Sean Miller is all about defense. He demonstrated it and knew he had to for the team. Most young players that come into the league never really had to play defense. Demonstrating the ability they can is what is important. He will have to in the NBA to get a lot of playing time. He is already playing better than Kaminsky did as a senior and he is a freshman. I don't think any 7 footer in college as a freshman EVER shot 3s like he is doing. He is special.

I might be a little bit biased regarding Lauri, but I think there´s zero worries about his character or dedication to improve as player. I think the defensive problems have more to do with the fact, that in Finland he could get by just being taller and more athletic than anyone he played against on defense. So I would take every sign of him being able to play NBA-defense as a huge positive, not as a sign of him being lazy before, maybe he´s just figuring it out right now.

kennydorglas · Post #1200 » by **kennydorglas** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:29 am

Markkanen shot making is as pure as it gets.
+20 ORtg with him in the court is really hard to achieve, especially for a freshman.
Just to put this in perspective, Anthony Davis got a +22 in his historic year at UK.

If we have the 1st or 2nd pick, and take Ball, how will you feel