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Re: Jeff Hornacek Fired 

Post#121 » by RunSunRun » Mon Feb 1, 2016 7:20 pm

BobbieL wrote:Its fine to fire Hornacek. He probably wasn't coming back next year

But its time Ryan McD does something. I know nothing will happen until Feb 18- its almost like the league prohibits trades so the trade deadline is exciting. But, Ryan needs to do something. The roster decisions have not worked - obviously.

And the next coach - tricky spot they are in. I don't have a clue.


I just hope McD isn't himself or being told by $arver to chase a playoff spot.

My wish is that we just play the young guys, move Kieff and maybe some vets as long as we don't have to give up assets, and just finish this season out with a top 3 pick. Thats not asking for too much is it?
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Re: Jeff Hornacek Fired 

Post#122 » by LukasBMW » Mon Feb 1, 2016 7:24 pm

WTF? Seriously WTF?

Hornacek was a lame duck. I thought for sure he would finish out the season to secure our tank. Things SEEMED to be going well. We were losing all of our games, we were finally playing Archie, and the injuries gave us the perfect excuse to take on a few d-league guys who would ensure a 4th quarter collapse each game.

Why on God's Green Earth would you fire the perfect lame duck head coach and risk upsetting the tank? Let Jeff finish the year and bring in a fresh face after the season ends.

A rally at this point would be a disaster! Our season is over. Done! Fork in it! Let's just finish out the season as losers so we can get a top 3 pick.

The only thing that makes sense is that the front office knew he lost the locker room, was concerned about his relationship with future allstar TJ Warren, and wanted to bring in a new coach asap to better mentor our young guys.

At least, it better be that!

Our next coach better give Archie, Booker, Warren, and Len 30 minutes a game. Otherwise I'm gonna flip.
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Re: Jeff Hornacek Fired 

Post#123 » by Frank Lee » Mon Feb 1, 2016 7:26 pm

hiring Nash ??? Ugh... this team has been run with too much of an eye on 'Marketing' i.e. FLUFF and not enough emphasis on substance.
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Re: Jeff Hornacek Fired 

Post#124 » by LukasBMW » Mon Feb 1, 2016 7:27 pm

Hiring Steve Nash sounds great, but he is very similar in demeanor to Jeff. Both guys might be too nice to lead a team.

Nash was one of the best floor leaders/floor coaches of all time, but running a team as a PG and leader VS being a head coach is a totally different ballgame.
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Re: Jeff Hornacek Fired 

Post#125 » by bwgood77 » Mon Feb 1, 2016 7:28 pm

kennydorglas wrote:Oh boy, Sarver wants Nash.
God help us.


He just can't let the Nash glory days go. Held onto him for a year or two too long, and of course now he wants to bring him back. He'd probably be the first coach to do it laying down on the side line though.
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Re: Jeff Hornacek Fired 

Post#126 » by Safety Pickle » Mon Feb 1, 2016 7:29 pm

Have they said who they will promote as interim in the meantime?
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Re: Jeff Hornacek Fired 

Post#127 » by bwgood77 » Mon Feb 1, 2016 7:30 pm

Cutter wrote:Hiring Steve Nash as head coach would be the ultimate gimmick hire by Sarver. Not only has Nash shown zero interest in being a head coach, he has shown zero skill at coaching.


He WAS a great mentor for Marcus Banks though.
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Re: Jeff Hornacek Fired 

Post#128 » by TeamTragic » Mon Feb 1, 2016 7:33 pm

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kennydorglas wrote:Oh boy, Sarver wants Nash.
God help us.


He just can't let the Nash glory days go. Held onto him for a year or two too long, and of course now he wants to bring him back. He'd probably be the first coach to do it laying down on the side line though.


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Re: Jeff Hornacek Fired 

Post#129 » by ATTL » Mon Feb 1, 2016 7:49 pm

We still have time to shoot for that coveted 13th pick. Go suns!
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Re: Jeff Hornacek Fired 

Post#130 » by NavLDO » Mon Feb 1, 2016 7:53 pm

Frank Lee wrote:Would not be surprised if Sarver backrooms a GM/Coach deal. This isn't exactly an attractive job for an experienced coach, especially with McDismantle monkeying around the roster continuously. Make no mistake here, shots have been fired across the GMs bow.

Look for a trade deadline swing at the fences response with one last Mudville-ian hurrah from McDeals.


So which is it, Frank, McDoNothing, or McDealTooMuch...you can't have it both ways?

If he doesn't do anything, you'll cry foul because he just let the roster ride as is...if he DOES do something, via trades, you'll claim he's monkeying around too much with the roster.

When are you going to realize that McD is just an extension of Sarver's designs...And Horny was the baker, yet was provided no Yeast, and his cake didn't rise, yet still took the blame from Sarver, which McD will as well soon, I'm sure, and be fired just as well. We all know you'll be happier than a **** when that happens. Just know you'll need to work on a bunch of new names that match the new GM...because he'll make the same type of moves, just with less vision...then there's the drop off in Draft Pick's we'll likely suffer...

...anyway, I guess my point is, doing 'Sarver-isms' would actually be more representative of ground truth, because I have a sneaking suspicion Sarver is more of a 'puppet-master' than fans actually see...

...but by all means, you may continue to contradict yourself, if you desire...
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Re: Jeff Hornacek Fired 

Post#131 » by bwgood77 » Mon Feb 1, 2016 8:02 pm

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Frank Lee wrote:Would not be surprised if Sarver backrooms a GM/Coach deal. This isn't exactly an attractive job for an experienced coach, especially with McDismantle monkeying around the roster continuously. Make no mistake here, shots have been fired across the GMs bow.

Look for a trade deadline swing at the fences response with one last Mudville-ian hurrah from McDeals.


So which is it, Frank, McDoNothing, or McDealTooMuch...you can't have it both ways?

If he doesn't do anything, you'll cry foul because he just let the roster ride as is...if he DOES do something, via trades, you'll claim he's monkeying around too much with the roster.

When are you going to realize that McD is just an extension of Sarver's designs...And Horny was the baker, yet was provided no Yeast, and his cake didn't rise, yet still took the blame from Sarver, which McD will as well soon, I'm sure, and be fired just as well. We all know you'll be happier than a **** when that happens. Just know you'll need to work on a bunch of new names that match the new GM...because he'll make the same type of moves, just with less vision...then there's the drop off in Draft Pick's we'll likely suffer...

...anyway, I guess my point is, doing 'Sarver-isms' would actually be more representative of ground truth, because I have a sneaking suspicion Sarver is more of a 'puppet-master' than fans actually see...

...but by all means, you may continue to contradict yourself, if you desire...


Then of course when fired he will end up with one of the best teams in the league in a few years (see David Griffin, Steve Kerr).
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Re: Jeff Hornacek Fired 

Post#132 » by phnart » Mon Feb 1, 2016 8:30 pm

At very least, historically, when Hornacek has left the Suns, good things have happened. Barkley for GM?
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Re: Jeff Hornacek Fired 

Post#133 » by MrMiyagi » Mon Feb 1, 2016 8:44 pm

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Then of course when fired he will end up with one of the best teams in the league in a few years (see David Griffin, Steve Kerr).

I wonder at what point - if you're Sarver - do you realize you don't know **** all about basketball and should either let people who know basketball run your team or sell the franchise.

Then again, you have to wonder what exactly David Griffin has done for the Cavs (trade for Love? Hire Blatt? TThompson's massive deal? DELLY?!), and Kerr did walk into a pretty sweet gig.
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Re: Jeff Hornacek Fired 

Post#134 » by MrMiyagi » Mon Feb 1, 2016 8:45 pm

phnart wrote:At very least, historically, when Hornacek has left the Suns, good things have happened. Barkley for GM?

You know what, Barkley, for all his silliness, knows basketball. I think he'd actually be a good GM.
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Re: Jeff Hornacek Fired 

Post#135 » by saintEscaton » Mon Feb 1, 2016 8:48 pm

MrMiyagi wrote:
phnart wrote:At very least, historically, when Hornacek has left the Suns, good things have happened. Barkley for GM?

You know what, Barkley, for all his silliness, knows basketball. I think he'd actually be a good GM.


Lol Barkley's anti-small ball philosophy would be even worse than McD's PG hoarding fetish. He would want old school bigs instead of stretch 4s and would want a twin tower frontcourt with awful spacing. He head to eat crow for saying that the Dubs wouldn't win a ring because they are a "jump shooting team".

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Re: Jeff Hornacek Fired 

Post#136 » by bwgood77 » Mon Feb 1, 2016 9:12 pm

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bwgood77 wrote:
Then of course when fired he will end up with one of the best teams in the league in a few years (see David Griffin, Steve Kerr).

I wonder at what point - if you're Sarver - do you realize you don't know **** all about basketball and should either let people who know basketball run your team or sell the franchise.

Then again, you have to wonder what exactly David Griffin has done for the Cavs (trade for Love? Hire Blatt? TThompson's massive deal? DELLY?!), and Kerr did walk into a pretty sweet gig.


Oh yeah, no doubt. But it's just funny to think about what situations our past GMs are in now (except for Blanks of course).
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Re: Jeff Hornacek Fired 

Post#137 » by letsgosuns » Mon Feb 1, 2016 9:15 pm

Gambo just broke a news story as he was talking on the radio. He said he just got a text from one of the players on the team (he would not say which player) and the player said the team found about Hornacek's firing on the news this morning and the front office did not tell the players themselves. I guess that is not surprising considering how this organization has been run recently. The media knew about Hornacek's firing before the players did.
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Re: Jeff Hornacek Fired 

Post#138 » by sunskerr » Mon Feb 1, 2016 9:18 pm

saintEscaton wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:
phnart wrote:At very least, historically, when Hornacek has left the Suns, good things have happened. Barkley for GM?

You know what, Barkley, for all his silliness, knows basketball. I think he'd actually be a good GM.


Lol Barkley's anti-small ball philosophy would be even worse than McD's PG hoarding fetish. He would want old school bigs instead of stretch 4s and would want a twin tower frontcourt with awful spacing. He head to eat crow for saying that the Dubs wouldn't win a ring because they are a "jump shooting team".

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Re: Jeff Hornacek Fired 

Post#139 » by phnart » Mon Feb 1, 2016 9:20 pm

letsgosuns wrote:Gambo just broke a news story as he was talking on the radio. He said he just got a text from one of the players on the team (he would not say which player) and the player said the team found about Hornacek's firing on the news this morning and the front office did not tell the players themselves. I guess that is not surprising considering how this organization has been run recently. The media knew about Hornacek's firing before the players did.


Oh good lord. What's next? Sarver taking over the coaching role? Lute Olson?
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Re: Jeff Hornacek Fired 

Post#140 » by TeamTragic » Mon Feb 1, 2016 9:24 pm

phnart wrote:
letsgosuns wrote:Gambo just broke a news story as he was talking on the radio. He said he just got a text from one of the players on the team (he would not say which player) and the player said the team found about Hornacek's firing on the news this morning and the front office did not tell the players themselves. I guess that is not surprising considering how this organization has been run recently. The media knew about Hornacek's firing before the players did.


Oh good lord. What's next? Sarver taking over the coaching role? Lute Olson?


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