Game 53: Oklahoma City Thunder @ Phoenix Suns

nevetsov · Post #121 » by **nevetsov** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 4:28 am

How is Ibaka still in the game, surely he must have around 12 fouls by now?

Huge block, though.

alldayeveryday · Post #122 » by **alldayeveryday** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 4:30 am

Appreciate the hustle from the team. I think we've all said this before, if we continue to play like this for every game.. win/lose I am okay with it

Post #123 » by **ATTL** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 4:32 am

Why is weems handling the ball?

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gaspar · Post #124 » by **gaspar** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 4:33 am

The Thunder are so unlikeable.

blacksun · Post #125 » by **blacksun** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 4:35 am

Good game from Len and Archie, tied for 3rd in the tank rank. And one more game before the fireworks begin! Cant wait.

saintEscaton · Post #126 » by **saintEscaton** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 4:38 am

I switched off with a couples minutes to go, come back and we lost by 16 points. Thats tanktastic

kennydorglas · Post #127 » by **kennydorglas** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 4:39 am

Great effort.
This is all I want now.

Post #128 » by **bondom34** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 4:47 am

Good game all, your young guys mostly looked very good and Kieff seems entirely different under Watson, see you next time!

Post #129 » by **lilfishi22** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 4:48 am

bondom34 wrote:Good game all, your young guys mostly looked very good and Kieff seems entirely different under Watson, see you next time!

Appreciate the help in righting our ship (tank) 8-)

Post #130 » by **bondom34** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 4:49 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Good game all, your young guys mostly looked very good and Kieff seems entirely different under Watson, see you next time!

Appreciate the help in righting our ship (tank)

Appreciate the win any way they can get it. No Roberson apparently means no defense :lol:

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LukasBMW · Post #131 » by **LukasBMW** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 6:51 am

Great game!

-Keef got 23 and 7 and boosted his trade value.

-We lost and continue to tank!

-Archie continues to prove that he has potential. He gets better every game. 20 points, 7 assists, and only 2 turnovers playing against Westbrook. Not bad at all.

-Two months ago Archie and Keef were worthless. Now a young contending playoff team could probably find room for them in the rotation.

thamadkant · Post #132 » by **thamadkant** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 7:06 am

Still rather keep Goodwin AND Booker backcourt for next season.

AtheJ415 · Post #133 » by **AtheJ415** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 7:17 am

1UPZ wrote:Still rather keep Goodwin AND Booker backcourt for next season.

Me too. Archie should stay. He's got more value to us than others, and I don't see the point of trading him to get a pick back either. He was a first rounder on his own, and it doesn't make sense to move him for another 1st right when he's developing and showing improvement.

thamadkant · Post #134 » by **thamadkant** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 7:25 am

Goodwin 21 years old scoring 20 against players like Westbrook, Lowry etc. Is darn impressive considering he is still learning and has been sat down the last 2 years alot. Has more to show as he is a proven hard worker...wanting him out to fit pass first PG next to Booker is seeing it the wrong way.

Developing a backcourt of Goodwin and Booker for the modern NBA is a better direction.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #135 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 8:55 am

Remember when Goodwin couldn't shoot FTs. Now he's averaging 80% in the last 12 games on about 50 FTs. Has one of the best techniques in the whole NBA. If he can do that he can improve the other stuff too.

Mr Puddles · Post #136 » by **Mr Puddles** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 10:24 am

1UPZ wrote:Goodwin 21 years old scoring 20 against players like Westbrook, Lowry etc. Is darn impressive considering he is still learning and has been sat down the last 2 years alot. Has more to show as he is a proven hard worker...wanting him out to fit pass first PG next to Booker is seeing it the wrong way.

Developing a backcourt of Goodwin and Booker for the modern NBA is a better direction.

Agree, we don't necessarily need a facilitating PG, we just need someone who can facilitate. This could instead be a point forward (which is why Ben Simmons would be perfect for this team).

Archie has been averaging 18.0, 500% fg, 46% 3pg, 7.5 assists and .929 ft on 5 attempts per game - this month. Small sample size, but those are some damn impressive numbers. Keep in mind that Archie is still younger than about half of the top 60 projected players in this upcoming draft, including coveted point guard Kris Dunn.

Also, Goodwin is making McD look good. If he continue to flourish - Archie's development gives McD. credibility when he asks ownership to be patient with his picks and moves. For that reason alone I don't think Archie will be moved this deadline.

NavLDO · Post #137 » by **NavLDO** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 3:32 pm

Mr Puddles wrote:
1UPZ wrote:Goodwin 21 years old scoring 20 against players like Westbrook, Lowry etc. Is darn impressive considering he is still learning and has been sat down the last 2 years alot. Has more to show as he is a proven hard worker...wanting him out to fit pass first PG next to Booker is seeing it the wrong way.

Developing a backcourt of Goodwin and Booker for the modern NBA is a better direction.

Agree, we don't necessarily need a facilitating PG, we just need someone who can facilitate. This could instead be a point forward (which is why Ben Simmons would be perfect for this team).

Archie has been averaging 18.0, 500% fg, 46% 3pg, 7.5 assists and .929 ft on 5 attempts per game - this month. Small sample size, but those are some damn impressive numbers. Keep in mind that Archie is still younger than about half of the top 60 projected players in this upcoming draft, including coveted point guard Kris Dunn.

Also, Goodwin is making McD look good. If he continue to flourish - Archie's development gives McD. credibility when he asks ownership to be patient with his picks and moves. For that reason alone I don't think Archie will be moved this deadline.

And, dare I say, makes Horny look good as a 'shooting coach'. He may not have been a great HC for us this season, and I agree his rotations were poor, but looking at Goodwin's game when he first entered the league, to what he's looked like recently (shooting), and you can't say that Horny didn't have his 'good points'.

I know some will try to point to Goodwin's improved shooting being simply a result of increased playing time, but even I, an untrained eye, can see improvement in his stroke from when he first entered the league. His increased playing time has been a result of his development of his shot, not the other way around. He just needs to be more consistent; again, I don't get to see lot of Suns' play, but from what I have seen, is that he can get 'lazy' from time to time, and I mean with his shooting fundamentals, not his overall play. So yes, his increased playing time has helped to reinforce his shooting fundamentals, but as fans, I don't think we should confuse his improved stroke being a solely a result of increased playing time, but merely a factor in helping him continue his development.

AtheJ415 · Post #138 » by **AtheJ415** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 3:57 pm

Archie shouldn't be moved at this point unless it's for something great. Adding him to push a trade over the top is a bad move. Besides, I don't see any of the teams we've been rumored to be dealing with needing him more than we do.

phnart · Post #139 » by **phnart** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 4:51 pm

Enjoyed watching the Suns be physical, although it seemed like we were more the "thugs" than teams in the past have been. Historically, the Suns have been the ones being pushed rather than the other way around. Beginning to like the Booker/Goodwin back court and I found myself hoping that Watson has the balls to bring Brandon Knight off the bench as the 6th man for the rest of the year. I'm sure someone else has pointed this out already, but I haven't had time to read all the posts lately.

ImNotMcDiSwear · Post #140 » by **ImNotMcDiSwear** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 5:39 pm

AtheJ415 wrote:Archie shouldn't be moved at this point unless it's for something great. Adding him to push a trade over the top is a bad move. Besides, I don't see any of the teams we've been rumored to be dealing with needing him more than we do.

I've been very impressed by his defense. Works hard, stays in front of his man, stays strong, moves quickly, and most importantly - he's very long. I don't see him guarding 3s any time soon, but he can guard either guard spot capably.