Official Trade Thread: The Block Is Hot!!

Zelaznyrules · Post #1201 » by **Zelaznyrules** » Mon Feb 9, 2015 7:10 am

rsavaj wrote:
Son of Ra wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:Was excited for Warren to get playing time. Sucks I'll have to wait for injuries or knocked up girlfriends for it to happen again.

Especially since non of Green, Marcus, Tucker are really better than him.

What exactly are you basing this off of other than "he scored a lot in college and the D-League"?

I love Warren, but so many here are, in my eyes, underestimating how difficult it is for a rookie to actually make an impact in their first year. It's the same kind of thinking that leads people to think Kentucky could beat the worst team in the NBA.

I'm one of those that believes Kentucky could have beat the 76ers back when it was being discussed. Normally it's absurd to think a college team (no matter how great) could actually compete with an NBA team. But the November Philly team really wasn't an NBA team. They didn't have the advantages such as talent, age, NBA experience and familiarity with teammates that normally makes that matchup impossible. Kentucky probably wouldn't have won a 7 game series but they would have won a game or two IMO.

As for Warren, I think he's something special. I'm not upset that he hasn't had his chance so far but I'm convinced he's going to be a major talent in this league and it will happen soon. I see nothing wrong with bringing the players along slowly but I think we've reached that point where we should be turning our young players loose. It's impossible to know for sure what we have with them if we don't start giving them significant minutes.

MrMiyagi · Post #1202 » by **MrMiyagi** » Mon Feb 9, 2015 7:31 am

rsavaj wrote:
Son of Ra wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:Was excited for Warren to get playing time. Sucks I'll have to wait for injuries or knocked up girlfriends for it to happen again.

Especially since non of Green, Marcus, Tucker are really better than him.

What exactly are you basing this off of other than "he scored a lot in college and the D-League"?

I love Warren, but so many here are, in my eyes, underestimating how difficult it is for a rookie to actually make an impact in their first year. It's the same kind of thinking that leads people to think Kentucky could beat the worst team in the NBA.

This. So much this. The number of people on this board who are hating the whole "bring the rookies on slowly" strategy forget this. Not to mention we've drafted 3 freshmen and 1 junior. This isn't like the old days where you draft a senior who has physically matured and really honed their skills.

Sundreamer · Post #1203 » by **Sundreamer** » Mon Feb 9, 2015 12:29 pm

I don't expect Warren/Goodwin/Ennis to make an immediate impact. I just want them to play and develop their games. I don't mind the Suns being blown out by 20+ every game if our young players are given 20 mpg.

Just trade Green, Morrii and Thomas for fillers/picks if there's no better offer.

carey · Post #1204 » by **carey** » Mon Feb 9, 2015 1:34 pm

bwgood77 wrote:I don't know if Bosh is available. I doubt it...but if he is, perhaps he would be the guy. But I don't know how far he takes us. Not past second round.

No. Trade. Clause.

King4Day · Post #1205 » by **King4Day** » Mon Feb 9, 2015 1:40 pm

saintEscaton wrote:McD needs to pull the trigger and sell high on Dragic before its too late and he irredeemably devalues himself as a trade commodity and the suitors hang up the phone. I would throw in Bullock, and whatever chumpchange needed to get that Harris deal done ASAP. Hopefully he is on the market

I don't think Bullock can be dealt with other players since he was already traded (for 2 months which means not until the summer).

King4Day · Post #1206 » by **King4Day** » Mon Feb 9, 2015 1:45 pm

The Suns have 13 losses by 5 or fewer points (also lost by 6 another game).

This team needs a finisher in the worst possible way. Or just to continue to develop.

JJ13 · Post #1207 » by **JJ13** » Mon Feb 9, 2015 2:11 pm

DarkHawk wrote:The Suns have 13 losses by 5 or fewer points (also lost by 6 another game).

This team needs a finisher in the worst possible way. Or just to continue to develop.

Or to make free throws

Grots · Post #1208 » by **Grots** » Mon Feb 9, 2015 3:14 pm

carey wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:I don't know if Bosh is available. I doubt it...but if he is, perhaps he would be the guy. But I don't know how far he takes us. Not past second round.

No. Trade. Clause.

Bosh doesn't have a no trade clause. That's Wade and Melo.

Regardless, I don't think a way overpaid 30 year old Bosh is a solution to anything.

Post #1209 » by **Qwigglez** » Mon Feb 9, 2015 4:28 pm

Here's an awesome trade! 8-)

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lg6khdp
We can give up the Lakers pick or our own to whichever team makes it more fair.

Kidding aside, I'd like to see us go after Jimmy Butler, but I imagine Chicago is keeping him at all cost. Any other young SG candidates who would fit well with our team? Oladipo, McLemore?

kennydorglas · Post #1210 » by **kennydorglas** » Mon Feb 9, 2015 5:01 pm

LeBron James admitted his Tweet late on Saturday night was a reference to Kevin Love.

"Stop trying to find a way to FIT-OUT and just FIT-IN. Be apart of something special! Just my thoughts," wrote James on Twitter.

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How much titles is worth this type of bashing by this moron?
This is Chris Bosh all over again.

Post #1211 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Feb 9, 2015 5:16 pm

carey wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:I don't know if Bosh is available. I doubt it...but if he is, perhaps he would be the guy. But I don't know how far he takes us. Not past second round.

No. Trade. Clause.

I don't think they'd trade him, but if they would I am beginning to doubt that would be a problem. I think he wanted to go to Houston but decided to stay for the money. Now that he has the money, I'm not sure he wouldn't want to get out of that situation now that they are full of declining vets unless he just feels like that would be abandoning Wade and his family wants to be in Miami.

Though, I don't know if we have the salaries to match a huge contract in a trade anyway. Bledsoe would need to probably be involved in any trade for a big star just for salary purposes.

Though it appears someone else said he doesn't have a no trade clause.

Post #1212 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Feb 9, 2015 5:18 pm

kennydorglas wrote:LeBron James admitted his Tweet late on Saturday night was a reference to Kevin Love.

"Stop trying to find a way to FIT-OUT and just FIT-IN. Be apart of something special! Just my thoughts," wrote James on Twitter.

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How much titles is worth this type of bashing by this moron?
This is Chris Bosh all over again.

I don't understand why people tweet personal conversations to 20 million people. Can't he just tell him that in the locker room? Not good if you feel the need to communicate like that.

thamadkant · Post #1213 » by **thamadkant** » Mon Feb 9, 2015 6:25 pm

You'd never see a Duncan or a Popovic using social media regarding professional thoughts and opinions.

Lebron and all these other players using the media are doing it for their followers... Compromising professionalism.

thamadkant · Post #1214 » by **thamadkant** » Mon Feb 9, 2015 6:49 pm

Suns / Clippers

Markieff Morris
Marcus Morris
Gerald Green
Goran Dragic

For

Blake Griffin
Jamal Crawford

Why? Clippers are stuck with no where to go with their situation. So they trade Griffin for depth and versatility.

Suns get their stud PF....

Some Suns fans will hate it for sure, Griffin is a punk. But if these fans were ok with Morris twins, I don't see why they can't grow to like Griffin.

Suns
C: Len / Plumlee
PF: Griffin / Wright
SF: Tucker / Warren
SG: Crawford / Goodwin
PG: Bledsoe / Thomas / Ennis

MilotheSlayer · Post #1215 » by **MilotheSlayer** » Mon Feb 9, 2015 6:53 pm

I think we get Love at the deadline. We ship them the Morri and Dragic, we bring back Love. Love commits to us through the end of this contract so we get him for 2 years for sure. Or team has the talent and potential that in 2 years Love would resign with us.

SSOL · Post #1216 » by **SSOL** » Mon Feb 9, 2015 7:08 pm

There is not a chance in this world that Cleveland trades Love this season. Sorry.

MilotheSlayer · Post #1217 » by **MilotheSlayer** » Mon Feb 9, 2015 7:15 pm

SSOL wrote:There is not a chance in this world that Cleveland trades Love this season. Sorry.

The way they (players) make it sound I think Cleveland should be terrified that Love will opt out after this year and go somewhere else during free agency. Will it happen? Who knows. I think they might want to look into to moving him before they lose him for nothing. His personality just doesn't seem to me meshing with Lebron's Ego

carey · Post #1218 » by **carey** » Mon Feb 9, 2015 7:23 pm

Grots wrote:Bosh doesn't have a no trade clause. That's Wade and Melo.

Regardless, I don't think a way overpaid 30 year old Bosh is a solution to anything.

I'm almost positive Bosh has one. A couple of beat writers were talking about it on Twitter recently. Also, these 6 absolutely have one so it's not just those 2: Kobe, Duncan, Dirk, Garnett, Melo, and Wade.

Son of Ra · Post #1219 » by **Son of Ra** » Mon Feb 9, 2015 7:33 pm

JJ13 wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:The Suns have 13 losses by 5 or fewer points (also lost by 6 another game).

This team needs a finisher in the worst possible way. Or just to continue to develop.

Or to make free throws

Even though it always seems like we are missing a ton we are actually 2nd in the league in free throw percentage so that can hardly be it.
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/team/_/stat/offense-per-game/sort/freeThrowPct

Fo-Real · Post #1220 » by **Fo-Real** » Mon Feb 9, 2015 7:38 pm

MilotheSlayer wrote:
SSOL wrote:There is not a chance in this world that Cleveland trades Love this season. Sorry.

The way they (players) make it sound I think Cleveland should be terrified that Love will opt out after this year and go somewhere else during free agency. Will it happen? Who knows. I think they might want to look into to moving him before they lose him for nothing. His personality just doesn't seem to me meshing with Lebron's Ego

If we trade for him, we wont be terrified that he will opt out... cause we will be completely sure he would and we lose assets for nothing. Im up for addition by subtraction as far as trading Green, Thomas, possibly Tucker and possibly the Twins gets our young guys playing time. But we should be able to actually get worth wild assets back, like vet leaders. David West keeps coming to mind. Question, if Amare gets bought out and decides to come here, would posters here be more willing to trade the Morri to get assets and make room?