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Re: 2023-24 Season Discussion and Speculation - Free Agency Begins 

Post#1201 » by enigmatics » Fri Jul 7, 2023 5:59 pm

Slim Charless wrote:Yeah, I'm thinking they trade Trae to Boston for Jaylen. Seems like the Celtics are dragging their feet on his contract so they can get Dame. Once that falls through, then they can go forward with other stuff.


Doesn't Portland have enough of those Jaylen Brown type players though?
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Re: 2023-24 Season Discussion and Speculation - Free Agency Begins 

Post#1202 » by Bogyo » Fri Jul 7, 2023 6:14 pm

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Slim Charless wrote:Yeah, I'm thinking they trade Trae to Boston for Jaylen. Seems like the Celtics are dragging their feet on his contract so they can get Dame. Once that falls through, then they can go forward with other stuff.


Doesn't Portland have enough of those Jaylen Brown type players though?


And Boston has enough PG's - plus they value defense more I'd think. But yea, it would be good for ATL.
I'd definatley would try to trade Trae if I were them. Get a good young(ish) wing and you have a team.
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Re: 2023-24 Season Discussion and Speculation - Free Agency Begins 

Post#1203 » by Slim Charless » Fri Jul 7, 2023 6:19 pm

Bogyo wrote:
enigmatics wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:Yeah, I'm thinking they trade Trae to Boston for Jaylen. Seems like the Celtics are dragging their feet on his contract so they can get Dame. Once that falls through, then they can go forward with other stuff.


Doesn't Portland have enough of those Jaylen Brown type players though?


And Boston has enough PG's - plus they value defense more I'd think. But yea, it would be good for ATL.
I'd definatley would try to trade Trae if I were them. Get a good young(ish) wing and you have a team.


That's the exact opposite of what they need. They just traded PG Marcus Smart remember lol. For a big. Malcom Brogdon might not play to who know when. They absolutely need another point.......that's why they're connected to these Dame rumors lol.

Now whether Trae is right personality for Boston is another thing. The fit of him and White in the backcourt is perfect though. Trae can also take over when Tatum can't hack it.
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Re: 2023-24 Season Discussion and Speculation - Free Agency Begins 

Post#1204 » by Puff » Fri Jul 7, 2023 6:34 pm

Frank Lee wrote:A talking head actually said CP was the best????
And whoever he was with didnt say Nash, KJ, DJ, JKidd, Westy said hi???

Career wise he could have an argument, but for time spent? Sheesh


I don't know if he is the best point guard ever for the Suns. However, I think he was our most important player during his time with the recent Suns teams. He helped Booker go to another level along with other contributions. In the playoffs we basically went how he went. When healthy, we were damn tough to beat. When he was injured we just were not very good, even with Booker and Durant on the team.

I am excited as most about the addition on Beal but I also respect what CP3 brought to our team. He turned this franchise into a legit winner. Can we continue what he started now that he is gone?
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Re: 2023-24 Season Discussion and Speculation - Free Agency Begins 

Post#1205 » by Bogyo » Fri Jul 7, 2023 6:42 pm

Slim Charless wrote:
Bogyo wrote:
enigmatics wrote:
Doesn't Portland have enough of those Jaylen Brown type players though?


And Boston has enough PG's - plus they value defense more I'd think. But yea, it would be good for ATL.
I'd definatley would try to trade Trae if I were them. Get a good young(ish) wing and you have a team.


That's the exact opposite of what they need. They just traded PG Marcus Smart remember lol. For a big. Malcom Brogdon might not play to who know when. They absolutely need another point.......that's why they're connected to these Dame rumors lol.

Now whether Trae is right personality for Boston is another thing. The fit of him and White in the backcourt is perfect though. Trae can also take over when Tatum can't hack it.


They love White, and they had a logjam, thats why they traded Smart. White is 6'4 and not very athletic, and while capable not an all nba defender. That backcourt would get burned on D. Dame is totally another caliber player than Trae.
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Re: 2023-24 Season Discussion and Speculation - Free Agency Begins 

Post#1206 » by Slim Charless » Fri Jul 7, 2023 6:46 pm

Bogyo wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:
Bogyo wrote:
And Boston has enough PG's - plus they value defense more I'd think. But yea, it would be good for ATL.
I'd definatley would try to trade Trae if I were them. Get a good young(ish) wing and you have a team.


That's the exact opposite of what they need. They just traded PG Marcus Smart remember lol. For a big. Malcom Brogdon might not play to who know when. They absolutely need another point.......that's why they're connected to these Dame rumors lol.

Now whether Trae is right personality for Boston is another thing. The fit of him and White in the backcourt is perfect though. Trae can also take over when Tatum can't hack it.


They love White, and they had a logjam, thats why they traded Smart. White is 6'4 and not very athletic, and while capable not an all nba defender. That backcourt would get burned on D. Dame is totally another caliber player than Trae.


"Not an all NBA defender"

He literally just made an all NBA defensive team lol. This year. Try again. Him and Dame would be a perfect combo. Him and Trae would be almost as good.
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Post#1207 » by TOO » Fri Jul 7, 2023 7:01 pm

Bogyo wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:
Bogyo wrote:
And Boston has enough PG's - plus they value defense more I'd think. But yea, it would be good for ATL.
I'd definatley would try to trade Trae if I were them. Get a good young(ish) wing and you have a team.


That's the exact opposite of what they need. They just traded PG Marcus Smart remember lol. For a big. Malcom Brogdon might not play to who know when. They absolutely need another point.......that's why they're connected to these Dame rumors lol.

Now whether Trae is right personality for Boston is another thing. The fit of him and White in the backcourt is perfect though. Trae can also take over when Tatum can't hack it.


They love White, and they had a logjam, thats why they traded Smart. White is 6'4 and not very athletic, and while capable not an all nba defender. That backcourt would get burned on D. Dame is totally another caliber player than Trae.


He made all defense this year. White is a better player than Smart, that's why they traded him.
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Re: 2023-24 Season Discussion and Speculation - Free Agency Begins 

Post#1208 » by enigmatics » Fri Jul 7, 2023 7:31 pm

Puff wrote:I don't know if he is the best point guard ever for the Suns. However, I think he was our most important player during his time with the recent Suns teams. He helped Booker go to another level along with other contributions. In the playoffs we basically went how he went. When healthy, we were damn tough to beat. When he was injured we just were not very good, even with Booker and Durant on the team.

I am excited as most about the addition on Beal but I also respect what CP3 brought to our team. He turned this franchise into a legit winner. Can we continue what he started now that he is gone?


I don't think it's far fetched to suggest that with a "healthy" CP3 the Suns largely have control over the western conference and continue deep runs into the playoffs. It's just a damn shame they got him on the wrong side of 35.

Then again the untimely injuries have always been a skid mark on his mostly illustrious career.
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Post#1209 » by Fo-Real » Fri Jul 7, 2023 7:43 pm

https://youtu.be/afo_6HkwUyA


Watching this makes me want to get him and just find a spot for him to play.
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Re: 2023-24 Season Discussion and Speculation - Free Agency Begins 

Post#1210 » by sunskerr » Fri Jul 7, 2023 7:47 pm

enigmatics wrote:
Puff wrote:I don't know if he is the best point guard ever for the Suns. However, I think he was our most important player during his time with the recent Suns teams. He helped Booker go to another level along with other contributions. In the playoffs we basically went how he went. When healthy, we were damn tough to beat. When he was injured we just were not very good, even with Booker and Durant on the team.

I am excited as most about the addition on Beal but I also respect what CP3 brought to our team. He turned this franchise into a legit winner. Can we continue what he started now that he is gone?


I don't think it's far fetched to suggest that with a "healthy" CP3 the Suns largely have control over the western conference and continue deep runs into the playoffs. It's just a damn shame they got him on the wrong side of 35.

Then again the untimely injuries have always been a skid mark on his mostly illustrious career.


I think if we had him in his early 30s we'd be near or at the top of the west. But the guy just has so many injuries throughout his career especially in the playoffs. Hamstrings and hips/groins galore...and that mysterious freaking hand (seriously, what the heck, its your hand) has even been a recurrence. And then there was the neck/nerve issue, too.

So its hard for me to even see us actually winning it all if he was in his early 30s.
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Re: 2023-24 Season Discussion and Speculation - Free Agency Begins 

Post#1211 » by enigmatics » Fri Jul 7, 2023 7:56 pm

Fo-Real wrote:https://youtu.be/afo_6HkwUyA

Watching this makes me want to get him and just find a spot for him to play.


There's a video showing the crazy run he had during a portion of this past season, which is interesting given how un-eager teams generally are about him.
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Post#1212 » by tleikheen » Fri Jul 7, 2023 8:01 pm

Suns need a big the most and they should be all over getting Bol Bol 7'2" . Bol Bol started 32 games straight for Orlando when Carter was hurt and played
Avged 27 mpg ,shooting 58 percent (162/278) FG and 39 percent (24/62) 3P and 74 percent (46/62) FT
Avged 12.4 ppg/7.1 rpg with 45 blocks in 32 starts

For any other 23 yr old other than Bol Bol Suns fans would be all over getting him if they could .
If you thought his play caused him to lose his starting position ,it wasnt. Magic are locked into Carter ,Banchero,Wagner frontline.
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Post#1213 » by bigfoot » Fri Jul 7, 2023 8:03 pm

Fo-Real wrote:https://youtu.be/afo_6HkwUyA


Watching this makes me want to get him and just find a spot for him to play.


53 blocks for Ayton last year, 0.9 per 36 min
85 blocks for Bol last year 2.0 per 36 min

A ton of Bol's block are on the perimeter in 1v1 switches against guards. He's a bean pole though.
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Post#1214 » by Fo-Real » Fri Jul 7, 2023 8:07 pm

bigfoot wrote:
Fo-Real wrote:https://youtu.be/afo_6HkwUyA


Watching this makes me want to get him and just find a spot for him to play.


53 blocks for Ayton last year, 0.9 per 36 min
85 blocks for Bol last year 2.0 per 36 min

A ton of Bol's block are on the perimeter in 1v1 switches against guards. He's a bean pole though.


And on his perimeter blocks, he is hauling ass down court for an outlet pass every time!! I also liked that he doesn't just get bullied in the paint. Thought he would be just pushed everywhere since he is thin. Didnt think a dude that skinny could even be 220 lbs.
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Post#1215 » by Slim Charless » Fri Jul 7, 2023 8:53 pm

I'd be fine with signing Bol. He'd be nice off the bench and could probably replace Eubanks as DA's b/u and if we trade DA having him will allow us more flexability when dealing with return packages. In other words, we don't need to get a big back we can get a guard or more wings/picks.
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Post#1216 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Fri Jul 7, 2023 9:21 pm

The question is whether Bol will be willing to play a role, stay in his lane, stick to the game plan. If he could settle into being a role player, he could be a contributor. The more he tries to do, the more he plays himself out of a rotation. Not sure he's the kind of player we're looking for - though obviously, our FO has put a priority on length.

In any event, he should have a future in this league as the only player who could even conceivably challenge Wembanyama's shot!
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Post#1217 » by darmani » Fri Jul 7, 2023 9:31 pm

Fo-Real wrote:
bigfoot wrote:
Fo-Real wrote:https://youtu.be/afo_6HkwUyA


Watching this makes me want to get him and just find a spot for him to play.


53 blocks for Ayton last year, 0.9 per 36 min
85 blocks for Bol last year 2.0 per 36 min

A ton of Bol's block are on the perimeter in 1v1 switches against guards. He's a bean pole though.


And on his perimeter blocks, he is hauling ass down court for an outlet pass every time!! I also liked that he doesn't just get bullied in the paint. Thought he would be just pushed everywhere since he is thin. Didnt think a dude that skinny could even be 220 lbs.

I don't want to be rude but it's clear that you just watched his highlights and not even a single full game. Josh Jackson and Marquese Chriss had incredible highlights too.

No one in Orlando was surprised that he was cut or that he went unclaimed on waivers. Bol Bol is not that guy.
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Post#1218 » by tleikheen » Fri Jul 7, 2023 9:59 pm

No one in Orlando was surprised that he was cut or that he went unclaimed on waivers. Bol Bol is not that guy.


How many games of Orlando did you watch ?,I watched most of them on League pass and #1 is Magic are locked in that Carter/Banchero/Wagner are their starting frontcourt.Then they signed Franz Wagner's brother Moe as the backup C even though he finished as the worst defensive Center in the NBA.
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Post#1219 » by tleikheen » Fri Jul 7, 2023 10:06 pm

Josh Jackson and Marquese Chriss had incredible highlights too.


I didnt know they were 7'2" also like Bol Bol
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Post#1220 » by enigmatics » Fri Jul 7, 2023 10:13 pm

tleikheen wrote:
Josh Jackson and Marquese Chriss had incredible highlights too.


I didnt know they were 7'2" also like Bol Bol


JJ and Chriss were absolutely BUMS with no semblance of God-given natural offensive talent. Bol at least shows he's not what you think when you consider his beyond lanky physical stature.

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