2014 Official FA Thread

[SunsFanSSOL]

Why do people want Lebron AND Carmelo on the Suns? The play the same position. Neither one of them can guard power forwards in the West. I would rather add Lebron to play with the rest of the current team. The Suns would have to start trading away players for nothing just to get under far enough under the cap to attempt to sign them. If that happened, the team would be depleted. Who else would be on the team?

LeBron can guard PF's, and LeBron and Carmelo can be used at both SF and PF.

[Kerrsed]

Why do people want Lebron AND Carmelo on the Suns? The play the same position. Neither one of them can guard power forwards in the West. I would rather add Lebron to play with the rest of the current team. The Suns would have to start trading away players for nothing just to get under far enough under the cap to attempt to sign them. If that happened, the team would be depleted. Who else would be on the team?

The bolded statement is not correct. Obviously you didnt see the chart that was posted.



I do agree with not getting Melo if we get Lebron, as i believe that Love would fit in better next to him.

[RunDogGun]

Why do people want Lebron AND Carmelo on the Suns? The play the same position. Neither one of them can guard power forwards in the West. I would rather add Lebron to play with the rest of the current team. The Suns would have to start trading away players for nothing just to get under far enough under the cap to attempt to sign them. If that happened, the team would be depleted. Who else would be on the team?

Do we have a bunch of large contracts that would get in the way? Dragic will be our highest paid player currently, and with Frye opting out, we could renounce his rights. Green is cheap, the Mos aren't too much.

As far as Bron and Melo, they could play together, and Bron is big enough to guard PFs in either conference.

While I think the odds are so slim, I would love a chance at a ring, and this might be our best shot. As long as we aren't getting calls just because of who we have, I want them to win a ring because they outplayed everyone else.

[JJ13]

I wonder if both Melo and Bron being FAs now will push Minny to pull the trigger on a trade. If teams think they can get either or both, won't they be less inclined to "sell the farm" for Love?

[letsgosuns]

Why do people want Lebron AND Carmelo on the Suns? The play the same position. Neither one of them can guard power forwards in the West. I would rather add Lebron to play with the rest of the current team. The Suns would have to start trading away players for nothing just to get under far enough under the cap to attempt to sign them. If that happened, the team would be depleted. Who else would be on the team?

The bolded statement is not correct. Obviously you didnt see the chart that was posted.



I do agree with not getting Melo if we get Lebron, as i believe that Love would fit in better next to him.

Whoa I did not realize the Suns had the most cap room in the league. It would still require them to take pay cuts to sign with the Suns though since they both are eligible to make at least 20 million a year with a new team I believe. Also I do not see Carmelo or Lebron guarding guys like Griffin, Randolph, Duncan, Dirk, or Aldridge, I just do not see how they would be able to guard the Spurs with a small forward playing power forward. The Heat got annihilated with their small ball lineup and I am sure Lebron wants to play with a real power forward and a real center by now.

[bwgood77]

This Bledsoe thing is getting out of hand. Know who else LeBron is friends with? Chris Paul. Do you think LeBron would rather usher in the new era for the Clippers (if that will remain their name) and play under Doc, alongside CP3, Griffin and DeAndre or come to Phoenix, a team that failed to make the playoffs last season and has an owner that does not want to be in the luxury tax? I love the LeBron to Phoenix dream but it realistically does not make sense.

Makes more sense than LAC. The Clippers are already way over the cap and dont have the money to pay Lebron. They also would have to try to dump DeAndre for straight salary relief just to be even close to signing Lebron (and Lebron would still have to take a discount). Good luck on finding a team under the cap willing to take Jordan on without sending any money back.

CP3 - $20,068,563
BG - $17,632,688
DJ - $11,440,123

That just $48M just in 3 players without Lebron! They are sitting at $73M with just 9 players under contract for next season.

Yeah, they'd have to send Jordan out. You don't think someone would want him for nothing? He seemed to get MUCH better this year. I'm not sure what they'd do at center though.

[bwgood77]

I really don't see any other team have as strong for him to sign.

I doubt he will come to Phoenix, but really, he'd be stupid not to.

If the Rockets move Lin and Asik I could see them being the favorites.

I'd take Asik (if LeBron decides not to choose Phoenix). A rim protector and great interior defender like him would help us quite a bit.

I'm not sure who would take Lin, but teams less concerned about money and more about cap space might. I wonder if Miami loses LeBron who they would try and sign. Deng and they could maybe use someone like Lin at that point? Though I guess they probably wouldn't want to help Houston carve out cap space for LeBron. If they did, I guess they could go for Asik too instead of Lin.

[bwgood77]

I really don't see any other team have as strong for him to sign.

I doubt he will come to Phoenix, but really, he'd be stupid not to.

If the Rockets move Lin and Asik I could see them being the favorites.

That wont be so easy. Lin and Asik were both given the same deals. Both will be making $14,898,938 a piece for a combined total of close to $30M.

You also have to think, if they are trying to clear the capspace for Lebron or Melo, they need to take back very little in return contracts. Lin isnt a high ticket player and i dont see a team under the cap taking a $15M hit for Lin to lead their team. He was severely overpaid and everyone around the league knows it. Asik is a rim protector and rebounder, but thats about it. Is he worth $15M? Hardly. Who even knows how good Asik is even more, He played in only just above half the games last season and his MPG were only improved to 20 due to him getting 30+ minutes the last few weeks of the season.

Houston could be a player for Lebron, but they have a lot of difficult hoops (on fire over a pit of vipers) to jump through to make it happen.

There are plenty of owners who care more about cap hits than dollars though, and Asik/Lin are only going to have $8.3 million cap hits. Though most of these owners are already over the cap.

[bwgood77]

Would you rather

sign Lebron and trade Morris, Morris in a st for Melo?
or
sign Lebron and trade Dragic, Morris, Morris for Love?

mmm..

If i had to choose between the 2, i would sign Lebron and trade Dragic, Morris, Morris for Love.

Love is a great rebounder, passer, and can spread the floor giving Lebron room to do dirt in the paint. Melo seems to need the ball in his hands more, which Lebron does as well.

I like Love more than Melo, but at the expense of Dragic, I'd prefer the deal for Melo. Melo actually became a much better 3 pt shooter this year. But he would have to learn to be a spot up shooter at least some of the time.

[McStunna]

Whoa I did not realize the Suns had the most cap room in the league. It would still require them to take pay cuts to sign with the Suns though since they both are eligible to make at least 20 million a year with a new team I believe. Also I do not see Carmelo or Lebron guarding guys like Griffin, Randolph, Duncan, Dirk, or Aldridge, I just do not see how they would be able to guard the Spurs with a small forward playing power forward. The Heat got annihilated with their small ball lineup and I am sure Lebron wants to play with a real power forward and a real center by now.

The Suns can pay them 98% of their maximum without doing any moves other than renouncing Frye and Bledsoe that won't happen of course.

Sign and trade Morris, Morris would get them both roughly the same while we can go over the cap to keep Bledsoe.

If Frye stayed for the veteran minimum he would become a legend and the league would hate it and suspect an under the table agreement because Frye opted out of 7M$ to sign the minimum.

[McStunna]

Worst case the Lakers trade Nash and #7 for MCW while getting nothing back and sign Melo and Lebron..

Doubt it would work with the egos but.... it would still suck and I take Bledsoe, Dragic and what we have on our roster over old-man Kobe and MCW.

[McStunna]

Melo was very efficient defensively guarding power forwards last season, Lebron can guard the PF position as well.

[Djedefre]

Aged Melo like this is closer to PF.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I'm not saying he will do this but if I was LeBron it would be really tempting to only sign 2 yr deals with opt outs after yr 1 for next 4-5 yrs and be the ultimate mercenary. Get to pick and choose your situation every offseason and see how many titles you can win as the ultimate mercenary these last 4 or 5 yrs of his prime. Most guys want long term deals for the financial stability but LeBron makes so much outside of basketball that's not as issue for him and I'm sure teams would want to lock him up longterm but it's not like they would say no if he demands a short term deal. He wouldn't have to change teams every year but it would give him the option to if he wants.

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[NaturalBuns]

Melo would just be the suns stretch 4.
That still Rebs better then frye.

Dragic
Green
Lebron
Melo
Plumlee


Use the 3 1st on vet guys taking less money and use Bledsoe in a S&T just to get players to fit the system

[BobbieL]

Worst case the Lakers trade Nash and #7 for MCW while getting nothing back and sign Melo and Lebron..

Doubt it would work with the egos but.... it would still suck and I take Bledsoe, Dragic and what we have on our roster over old-man Kobe and MCW.

I am not sure with even dumping Nash the Lakers have the cap space - but maybe I am wrong

I have ZERO idea why the Sixers would give up MCW and take Nashs' contract - that would be stupid.

You take on Nashs contract and the 7th pick for like Thaddeus Young

As for the Suns - I think its better to not have both Melo and LBJ but wouldn't turn it down either

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Melo would just be the suns stretch 4.
That still Rebs better then frye.

Dragic
Green
Lebron
Melo
Plumlee


Use the 3 1st on vet guys taking less money and use Bledsoe in a S&T just to get players to fit the system

As long as we're fantasizing, more realistically, we trade Dragic to clear space and keep Bledsoe, which is what would attract Lebron (and therefore Melo) in the first place.

[McStunna]

Melo would just be the suns stretch 4.
That still Rebs better then frye.

Dragic
Green
Lebron
Melo
Plumlee


Use the 3 1st on vet guys taking less money and use Bledsoe in a S&T just to get players to fit the system

As long as we're fantasizing, more realistically, we trade Dragic to clear space and keep Bledsoe, which is what would attract Lebron (and therefore Melo) in the first place.

We would rather trade a combination of Morris, Morris, Gree, Len to clear the 6-7M$ then trading Dragic.

We can get

Len/Plumlee
Carmelo
Lebron/Tucker
Dragic/Green
Bledsoe/Goodwin
+picks

That is very possible.

[NaturalBuns]

Melo would just be the suns stretch 4.
That still Rebs better then frye.

Dragic
Green
Lebron
Melo
Plumlee


Use the 3 1st on vet guys taking less money and use Bledsoe in a S&T just to get players to fit the system

As long as we're fantasizing, more realistically, we trade Dragic to clear space and keep Bledsoe, which is what would attract Lebron (and therefore Melo) in the first place.

Dragic was MIP?
He actually was in the ballot for MVP
He's just flat out better?

[SunsFanSSOL]

Melo would just be the suns stretch 4.
That still Rebs better then frye.

Dragic
Green
Lebron
Melo
Plumlee


Use the 3 1st on vet guys taking less money and use Bledsoe in a S&T just to get players to fit the system

As long as we're fantasizing, more realistically, we trade Dragic to clear space and keep Bledsoe, which is what would attract Lebron (and therefore Melo) in the first place.

Dragic was MIP?
He actually was in the ballot for MVP
He's just flat out better?

Dragic was given an MVP vote by mistake.

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