Other Playoff Series

kennydorglas · Post #1241 » by **kennydorglas** » Fri May 27, 2022 4:39 am

Told y'all
Easy gentlemen sweep for GS.

Shame on us.

Post #1242 » by **lilfishi22** » Fri May 27, 2022 4:41 am

Really disappointing how easy the Warriors made it look whereas we struggled just to get past the Pels

sunsbg · Post #1243 » by **sunsbg** » Fri May 27, 2022 6:33 am

lilfishi22 wrote:Really disappointing how easy the Warriors made it look whereas we struggled just to get past the Pels

Well, Warriors didn't have injuries, while Suns played without Booker a few games in Rd1 and five games without CP3 in Rd2.

Funny last year the bookies gave us before the finals started a better chance of winning the title with Giannis questionable than this Warriors team which is heavy favorite to win it all IMO. I'm not a believer in a team with Tatum. I think he'll choke under pressure. He seems like that type to me.

sunstrooper · Post #1244 » by **sunstrooper** » Fri May 27, 2022 7:36 am

lilfishi22 wrote:Really disappointing how easy the Warriors made it look whereas we struggled just to get past the Pels

Mavs got carried by the refs for at least 2 games and when the ref support was over against the GSW, so were the Mavs.
While the flopping (especially by Doncic and Brunson) was tiresome, what actually was maddening to watch were the blatant moving screens (if you can call a screen Powell/Kleber running and pushing/holding Bridges, or whoever was defending, away from the shooter and then throwing him on the floor with not a single call for that). Just check the full highlights on YT.
And then Mavs went to play with the guys who made a dynasty on moving screens and it was fun and games no more.

Post #1245 » by **lilfishi22** » Fri May 27, 2022 7:54 am

sunstrooper wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Really disappointing how easy the Warriors made it look whereas we struggled just to get past the Pels

Mavs got carried by the refs for at least 2 games and when the ref support was over against the GSW, so were the Mavs.
While the flopping (especially by Doncic and Brunson) was tiresome, what actually was maddening to watch were the blatant moving screens (if you can call a screen Powell/Kleber running and pushing/holding Bridges, or whoever was defending, away from the shooter and then throwing him on the floor with not a single call for that). Just check the full highlights on YT.
And then Mavs went to play with the guys who made a dynasty on moving screens and it was fun and games no more.

That's just noise.

We didn't show up, plain and simple. In the 4 losses, we averaged 93ppg....Even if they used all the moving screens in a world to put up their 108ppg average, that's just one side of the court. On the other side, we straight up couldn't put points up on the board.

garrick · Post #1246 » by **garrick** » Fri May 27, 2022 8:09 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
sunstrooper wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Really disappointing how easy the Warriors made it look whereas we struggled just to get past the Pels

Mavs got carried by the refs for at least 2 games and when the ref support was over against the GSW, so were the Mavs.
While the flopping (especially by Doncic and Brunson) was tiresome, what actually was maddening to watch were the blatant moving screens (if you can call a screen Powell/Kleber running and pushing/holding Bridges, or whoever was defending, away from the shooter and then throwing him on the floor with not a single call for that). Just check the full highlights on YT.
And then Mavs went to play with the guys who made a dynasty on moving screens and it was fun and games no more.

That's just noise.

We didn't show up, plain and simple. In the 4 losses, we averaged 93ppg....Even if they used all the moving screens in a world to put up their 108ppg average, that's just one side of the court. On the other side, we straight up couldn't put points up on the board.

We got carried away playing at the Mavs pace and slowed it down but if you watched GSW they mixed it up and threw different looks at Doncic and also did a much better job driving the ball inside.

I think either a healthy Suns or Memphis takes GSW to 7 games at least but unfortunately injuries and bad luck are just a part of the game.

sunstrooper · Post #1247 » by **sunstrooper** » Fri May 27, 2022 8:21 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
sunstrooper wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Really disappointing how easy the Warriors made it look whereas we struggled just to get past the Pels

Mavs got carried by the refs for at least 2 games and when the ref support was over against the GSW, so were the Mavs.
While the flopping (especially by Doncic and Brunson) was tiresome, what actually was maddening to watch were the blatant moving screens (if you can call a screen Powell/Kleber running and pushing/holding Bridges, or whoever was defending, away from the shooter and then throwing him on the floor with not a single call for that). Just check the full highlights on YT.
And then Mavs went to play with the guys who made a dynasty on moving screens and it was fun and games no more.

That's just noise.

We didn't show up, plain and simple. In the 4 losses, we averaged 93ppg....Even if they used all the moving screens in a world to put up their 108ppg average, that's just one side of the court. On the other side, we straight up couldn't put points up on the board.

I could agree with you with regard to game 6 and for sure for game 7, but absolutely not with regard to game 4. How many times the Suns managed to cut it to 4-5-6 and then we had Mavs pulling away every time on flop calls and 3s off of moving screens. Our guys fought hard in game 4 and it was more than doable with fair officiating. Then the series would have ended in 5 and we wouldn't have to talk about no showing up in games 6&7.
However, i still have no explanation for myself about Paul, who didn't show up from game 3 onward. Also no explanation about Monty's strategy to not utilise Ayton. I mean, you are fighting for the prize with the best chance on your side and you don't use the one player who can make a difference because you don't like him?
And some more "noise", if you would allow me - can't help myself wondering if the Sarver investigation had anything to do with how the Suns were officiated and with the visible lack of energy and urgency in crucial games.

Post #1248 » by **lilfishi22** » Fri May 27, 2022 9:08 am

sunstrooper wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
sunstrooper wrote:
Mavs got carried by the refs for at least 2 games and when the ref support was over against the GSW, so were the Mavs.
While the flopping (especially by Doncic and Brunson) was tiresome, what actually was maddening to watch were the blatant moving screens (if you can call a screen Powell/Kleber running and pushing/holding Bridges, or whoever was defending, away from the shooter and then throwing him on the floor with not a single call for that). Just check the full highlights on YT.
And then Mavs went to play with the guys who made a dynasty on moving screens and it was fun and games no more.

That's just noise.

We didn't show up, plain and simple. In the 4 losses, we averaged 93ppg....Even if they used all the moving screens in a world to put up their 108ppg average, that's just one side of the court. On the other side, we straight up couldn't put points up on the board.

I could agree with you with regard to game 6 and for sure for game 7, but absolutely not with regard to game 4. How many times the Suns managed to cut it to 4-5-6 and then we had Mavs pulling away every time on flop calls and 3s off of moving screens. Our guys fought hard in game 4 and it was more than doable with fair officiating. Then the series would have ended in 5 and we wouldn't have to talk about no showing up in games 6&7.
However, i still have no explanation for myself about Paul, who didn't show up from game 3 onward. Also no explanation about Monty's strategy to not utilise Ayton. I mean, you are fighting for the prize with the best chance on your side and you don't use the one player who can make a difference because you don't like him?
And some more "noise", if you would allow me - can't help myself wondering if the Sarver investigation had anything to do with how the Suns were officiated and with the visible lack of energy and urgency in crucial games.

The way I see it, G5-7 was a 3 game series. Everything before that is whatever. We showed up for game 5, played well and put a beating in the Mavs. Then we just disappeared in G6 and G7. Most disappointing was our performance in G7 at home and in front of our home crowd. Absolutely embarassing effort.

As for the Sarver investigation, that literally had no impact on our season at all. It was as if we didn't have a scandal at all so to bring it up now is just excuses.

kennydorglas · Post #1249 » by **kennydorglas** » Fri May 27, 2022 5:39 pm

Nba title chances b4 the offs

Suns +250
Mavericks +2200

What a great job we did here.

Frank Lee · Post #1250 » by **Frank Lee** » Sat May 28, 2022 3:26 am

Butler is a dawg of dawgs

Post #1251 » by **bwgood77** » Sat May 28, 2022 4:54 am

Wow, I was not expecting Miami to win. Butler is one of those refuse to lose guys and that team has grit with him, Bam and Tucker. Marcus Smart, who I've heard from Boston fans is the heart of the team, had a bad game. Boston has shown they can win on the road. Should be a crazy game 7. I generally like Miami more than Boston, but I think a Warriors/Celtics finals matchup would be great. It's amazing $20 million a year Duncan Robinson played 5 minutes, while Max Strus was hitting big 3s and is key. I hadn't even heard of him before the playoffs. He's like a 26 year old 2nd year guy. So many guys who were relatively unknown stepping up in the playoffs...Jordan Poole was fairly unknown coming into this season, now Max Strus. Good teams are finding these guys. We need to do so ourselves.

garrick · Post #1252 » by **garrick** » Sat May 28, 2022 5:28 am

bwgood77 wrote:Wow, I was not expecting Miami to win. Butler is one of those refuse to lose guys and that team has grit with him, Bam and Tucker. Marcus Smart, who I've heard from Boston fans is the heart of the team, had a bad game. Boston has shown they can win on the road. Should be a crazy game 7. I generally like Miami more than Boston, but I think a Warriors/Celtics finals matchup would be great. It's amazing $20 million a year Duncan Robinson played 5 minutes, while Max Strus was hitting big 3s and is key. I hadn't even heard of him before the playoffs. He's like a 26 year old 2nd year guy. So many guys who were relatively unknown stepping up in the playoffs...Jordan Poole was fairly unknown coming into this season, now Max Strus. Good teams are finding these guys. We need to do so ourselves.

Yeah our talent development has not been good recently and while we have had success with the lottery we've been trading all our draft picks and missing the chance to find a steal late in the 1st round or in the 2nd.

I am starting to believe that Monty is not good with young players after reading the comments from him about DA and the utter mismanagement with Stix.

Perhaps he's good with veteran players but he's unable to relate to or motivate younger players that aren't the mature types like Cam Johnson or Bridges, this will be a problem going forward as it's not like we have a lot of cap space available the next few years.

thamadkant · Post #1253 » by **thamadkant** » Sat May 28, 2022 11:09 pm

Warriors gave suns problems all season long... they shut down Booker all games he played.

Only player who looked like their normal self is Ayton.

That said I want Heat to win it all.

Love Jimmy Butler. Don't want celtics nor warriors to win, their fan base are insufferable.

Post #1254 » by **bwgood77** » Sun May 29, 2022 8:43 pm

Scott Foster trending on twitter right now. Fans freaking out. I see people posting #s both ways. One says Celtics are 11-0 this year and postseaston with him and Heat are 1-8 but others say Heat are better than Celtics with him (but it's much closer).

Someone also said the first stat has to be wrong because Boston lost the 1st game against the Bucks with him officiating. Seems like fans of a lot of teams hate him.

Actually just found out why the records must differ. One is this year and postseason (I think) and one is all time in the playoffs?

Heat are 1-8 and Celtics are 11-0 with Foster as ref. Gotta hope it won’t matter though.

In game 4 the Celtics won by 20 and made 22 more free throws with Foster as ref. You can’t imagine it’ll be that lopsided this time around.
The good news for Miami is that the team has an all-time record of 23-13 in postseason games that Foster has officiated. On the other hand, the Celtics are just 16-19 in such games.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/heatnation.com/game-news/report-scott-foster-officiating-game-7-between-miami-heat-and-boston-celtics/amp/

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Without looking I imagine that includes the LeBron years where the league WANTED Miami to progress for money and ratings. That is not the situation today.

Post #1255 » by **lilfishi22** » Sun May 29, 2022 11:46 pm

I was watching Jimmy torch the Celtics for 47 and wondered what is so different about Booker. Defense aside, what makes Jimmy better than Booker? Statistically, Booker is better, he's a higher volume and more efficient scorer but what is it about Jimmy that allows him to take over games that Booker seem to be missing?

Is it shot creation? Is it strength? Is it athleticism?

sunskerr · Post #1256 » by **sunskerr** » Mon May 30, 2022 12:09 am

lilfishi22 wrote:I was watching Jimmy torch the Celtics for 47 and wondered what is so different about Booker. Defense aside, what makes Jimmy better than Booker? Statistically, Booker is better, he's a higher volume and more efficient scorer but what is it about Jimmy that allows him to take over games that Booker seem to be missing?

Is it shot creation? Is it strength? Is it athleticism?

Probably strength and handles. Book gets bodied by strong defenders like Jrue Holiday, and his handle gets shaky sometimes against physicality (although this might not be a handle issue but again a strength one)

thamadkant · Post #1257 » by **thamadkant** » Mon May 30, 2022 1:07 am

lilfishi22 wrote:I was watching Jimmy torch the Celtics for 47 and wondered what is so different about Booker. Defense aside, what makes Jimmy better than Booker? Statistically, Booker is better, he's a higher volume and more efficient scorer but what is it about Jimmy that allows him to take over games that Booker seem to be missing?

Is it shot creation? Is it strength? Is it athleticism?

Butler has old school toughness and heart in him. He also doesnt rely on mid range shots. He will move closer the basket regardless of who is defending him to get a higher percentage look. He's tougher and take contact better than Booker who is more finesse.

thamadkant · Post #1258 » by **thamadkant** » Mon May 30, 2022 1:10 am

Its disheartening that Derrick White outproduces both Cam Payne and Shamet.... hate his face, but he would have been HUGE for the Suns off the bench.

thamadkant · Post #1259 » by **thamadkant** » Mon May 30, 2022 1:12 am

Lol whats with the first seeds this season... Game 7s tend to bring the chokers out of them. Heat looking like Game 6/7 Suns.

Post #1260 » by **lilfishi22** » Mon May 30, 2022 1:20 am

thamadkant wrote:Its disheartening that Derrick White outproduces both Cam Payne and Shamet.... hate his face, but he would have been HUGE for the Suns off the bench.

He's also more expensive than Cam and Shamet combined. We also found Cam in the scrap heap while Derrick White has been under the tutelage of Pops for almost half a decade and learning how to play basketball the right way.

He's clearly the next tier up of rotation players to both Cam and Shamet although Cam last year was pretty legit. Oh not to mention, the Celtics gave up a fair bit of draft capital for him. I think it would've taken less to have gotten Eric Gordon who I would prefer.

Who are you pulling for in finals?