Offseason Thread 6: The Not So Mexican Stand-off Continues

[Sunsdeuce]

The roster is extremely unbalanced. Until we get some legit quality bigs, we are only going to be the feel good story of the nba.

There are certain individuals here who think the overall size of this team doesn't matter but thats completely false and something someone who has no idea what they are talking about would say. Best case scenario is this team will be the 2007 GS warriors with the current roster.

Bottomline: you have to have legit bigs to be a quality playoff team. So someone has to go.

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Well it's a great thing we got the best value FA in IT and it looks like we are going to sign Bledsoe so we will have good trade assets since we couldn't get any good bigs in free agency. It's obviously not for a lack of trying though, so not really worth whining about.

It's not whining it's being realistic. This is an unbalanced roster.

I guess it is what it is.

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[bhawk]

Sign him to this club friendly deal and trade his ass. He doesn't want to be here anyway. His trade value skyrockets with that contract. Just sayin...

[Christine-In-AZ]

4/52 is the offer on the table. Scheduled to talk with Bledsoe and agent on Wednesday.

We worked out arrangements for Zoran and are wanting to wrap up the offseason. Bledsoe has budged from his max deal stance.

Still not a done deal. They want a player option year 4. And came back with 4/54.

Is this information you are delivering, via press contacts you have (and have mentioned in the past) or other/deeper?

[Sunsdeuce]

Sign him to this club friendly deal and trade his ass. He doesn't want to be here anyway. His trade value skyrockets with that contract. Just sayin...

This I agree with. But this board is torn over Bledsoe. So you'll probably get split reactions.


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[Kerrsed]

A lot of teams were ok with trading for Bledsoe, and even a few for trading for Bledsoe on a max contract, but they were'nt ok giving up good assets for the opportunity to have Bledsoe on a max contract. Now that it is being reported that he is willing to take much less, i can see the Suns getting much better assets in return for him in a S&T.

[suns91fan]

Sign him to this club friendly deal and trade his ass. He doesn't want to be here anyway. His trade value skyrockets with that contract. Just sayin...

He never said he doesn't want to be here. He said he wants to get paid. 99% of NBA players think the same way. Especially those coming from rookie contracts.

[Sunsdeuce]

A lot of teams were ok with trading for Bledsoe, and even a few for trading for Bledsoe on a max contract, but they were'nt ok giving up good assets for the opportunity to have Bledsoe on a max contract. Now that it is being reported that he is willing to take much less, i can see the Suns getting much better assets in return for him in a S&T.

I am worried about eating up cap space. Goran has to be more of a priority than Bledsoe. I hope it doesn't mess with Goran's next deal. In ideal world we would have an All-star big to compliment our endless supply of quality backcourt players.


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[King4Day]

A lot of teams were ok with trading for Bledsoe, and even a few for trading for Bledsoe on a max contract, but they were'nt ok giving up good assets for the opportunity to have Bledsoe on a max contract. Now that it is being reported that he is willing to take much less, i can see the Suns getting much better assets in return for him in a S&T.

Maybe he does want to be here after all. Some gave him the benefit of the doubt that he was just doing what's best for him to make as much as possible. No reason to think different now

[Sunsdeuce]

A lot of teams were ok with trading for Bledsoe, and even a few for trading for Bledsoe on a max contract, but they were'nt ok giving up good assets for the opportunity to have Bledsoe on a max contract. Now that it is being reported that he is willing to take much less, i can see the Suns getting much better assets in return for him in a S&T.

Maybe he does want to be here after all. Some gave him the benefit of the doubt that he was just doing what's best for him to make as much as possible. No reason to think different now

Or his crew buckled. Bledsoe, Rich Paul, and even lebron took a lot of heat nationally for this hold out.


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[SunsFanSSOL]

A lot of teams were ok with trading for Bledsoe, and even a few for trading for Bledsoe on a max contract, but they were'nt ok giving up good assets for the opportunity to have Bledsoe on a max contract. Now that it is being reported that he is willing to take much less, i can see the Suns getting much better assets in return for him in a S&T.

I am worried about eating up cap space. Goran has to be more of a priority than Bledsoe. I hope it doesn't mess with Goran's next deal. In ideal world we would have an All-star big to compliment our endless supply of quality backcourt players.


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The cap is going to be $80m in 3 years, the Suns will survive dividing $28m between two players like 95 % of the league does.

[bwgood77]

The roster is extremely unbalanced. Until we get some legit quality bigs, we are only going to be the feel good story of the nba.

There are certain individuals here who think the overall size of this team doesn't matter but thats completely false and something someone who has no idea what they are talking about would say. Best case scenario is this team will be the 2007 GS warriors with the current roster.

Bottomline: you have to have legit bigs to be a quality playoff team. So someone has to go.

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Well it's a great thing we got the best value FA in IT and it looks like we are going to sign Bledsoe so we will have good trade assets since we couldn't get any good bigs in free agency. It's obviously not for a lack of trying though, so not really worth whining about.

It's not whining it's being realistic. This is an unbalanced roster.

I guess it is what it is.

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Yeah, we are not a championship caliber team yet, but at least our guards look set. Last year we had no idea our guards could lead us to being THIS good. Hopefully Warren turns into a stud and we can sign a quality big man at some point or trade for one or get one with the Lakers pick next year or maybe ours. Obviously if Len can surprise us all or Plumlee that would be a huge plus. I'm still much more excited about this team than I was at this time last year, two years ago, three years ago or four years ago.

[Sunsdeuce]

A lot of teams were ok with trading for Bledsoe, and even a few for trading for Bledsoe on a max contract, but they were'nt ok giving up good assets for the opportunity to have Bledsoe on a max contract. Now that it is being reported that he is willing to take much less, i can see the Suns getting much better assets in return for him in a S&T.

I am worried about eating up cap space. Goran has to be more of a priority than Bledsoe. I hope it doesn't mess with Goran's next deal. In ideal world we would have an All-star big to compliment our endless supply of quality backcourt players.


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The cap is going to be $80m in 3 years, the Suns will survive dividing $28m between two players like 95 % of the league does.

I think it's going to be closer to 32m between two players. Goran is going to get more (well deserved more)than Bledsoe. But I get your point.


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[Sunsdeuce]

Well it's a great thing we got the best value FA in IT and it looks like we are going to sign Bledsoe so we will have good trade assets since we couldn't get any good bigs in free agency. It's obviously not for a lack of trying though, so not really worth whining about.

It's not whining it's being realistic. This is an unbalanced roster.

I guess it is what it is.

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Yeah, we are not a championship caliber team yet, but at least our guards look set. Last year we had no idea our guards could lead us to being THIS good. Hopefully Warren turns into a stud and we can sign a quality big man at some point or trade for one or get one with the Lakers pick next year or maybe ours. Obviously if Len can surprise us all or Plumlee that would be a huge plus. I'm still much more excited about this team than I was at this time last year, two years ago, three years ago or four years ago.

Point taken. But I'm greedy when it comes to the suns. I want championships not a barely playoff team. But yeah, hopefully the lakers suck bad (not too bad, like #6 overall draft pick bad).


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[bwgood77]

A lot of teams were ok with trading for Bledsoe, and even a few for trading for Bledsoe on a max contract, but they were'nt ok giving up good assets for the opportunity to have Bledsoe on a max contract. Now that it is being reported that he is willing to take much less, i can see the Suns getting much better assets in return for him in a S&T.

He's probably going to be easier to trade if we wanted to but there is still the issue of few teams needing point guards and of those teams no one likely to give up the type of assets we'd want for a guy like Bledsoe. Sacramento won't trade Cousins, Minny won't trade Wiggins (and they have Rubio), Milwaukee won't trade Parker or the freak, I wouldn't want what the Lakers have but I don't know if they'd trade Randle. We wouldn't be as good with Randle either as with Bledsoe anyway and Randle is far from a sure thing.

[drewsprocket]

4/52 is the offer on the table. Scheduled to talk with Bledsoe and agent on Wednesday.

We worked out arrangements for Zoran and are wanting to wrap up the offseason. Bledsoe has budged from his max deal stance.

Still not a done deal. They want a player option year 4. And came back with 4/54.

Done...wrap it up and call a press conference and have Bledsoe throw Suns fans some fracking love. He better get his ass and join his teammates on the floor.

[phrazbit]

The roster is extremely unbalanced. Until we get some legit quality bigs, we are only going to be the feel good story of the nba.

There are certain individuals here who think the overall size of this team doesn't matter but thats completely false and something someone who has no idea what they are talking about would say. Best case scenario is this team will be the 2007 GS warriors with the current roster.

Bottomline: you have to have legit bigs to be a quality playoff team. So someone has to go.



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But getting rid of Bledsoe solves nothing... and the way the roster is constructed would actually have made them even smaller seeing as Thomas would have taken over most of Bledsoe's duties. Yes, it would be nice if the team was bigger AND better, but keeping Bledsoe makes them much better than they'd be otherwise.

[Phystic]

Sign him to this club friendly deal and trade his ass. He doesn't want to be here anyway. His trade value skyrockets with that contract. Just sayin...

He never said he doesn't want to be here. He said he wants to get paid. 99% of NBA players think the same way. Especially those coming from rookie contracts.

His attitude as soon as he got here screamed "i don't want to be here". I can't ever remember him smiling and having a good time. He never seemed personable in the media or on media day last summer. He never said anything about wanting to stay here and hasn't stepped foot here since the end of the season.

Definitely seems like he doesn't want to be here. And the fact that he came down from a max contract demand makes me think that he has no interest in signing the QO. If I'm the Suns I got up a few mil to allow him to save face and that's it. 4 yr 52M. Done

[bwgood77]

Sign him to this club friendly deal and trade his ass. He doesn't want to be here anyway. His trade value skyrockets with that contract. Just sayin...

He never said he doesn't want to be here. He said he wants to get paid. 99% of NBA players think the same way. Especially those coming from rookie contracts.

His attitude as soon as he got here screamed "i don't want to be here". I can't ever remember him smiling and having a good time. He never seemed personable in the media or on media day last summer. He never said anything about wanting to stay here and hasn't stepped foot here since the end of the season.

Definitely seems like he doesn't want to be here. And the fact that he came down from a max contract demand makes me think that he has no interest in signing the QO. If I'm the Suns I got up a few mil to allow him to save face and that's it. 4 yr 52M. Done

I think it mostly boils down to personality and advice from idiots. If he comes to play on a four year contract, and he plays well and stays healthy, he may not be my favorite player like KJ, but I'll be damn glad he's on the team. It's dumb to want to trade a premier talent. I think ultimately if we re-sign Green maybe we deal Thomas but I don't think we need to...the cap may be big enough to fit another big salary in a couple of years depending on the contracts of the twins and whether we sign Green.

[lilfishi22]

His attitude as soon as he got here screamed "i don't want to be here". I can't ever remember him smiling and having a good time. He never seemed personable in the media or on media day last summer. He never said anything about wanting to stay here and hasn't stepped foot here since the end of the season.

Definitely seems like he doesn't want to be here. And the fact that he came down from a max contract demand makes me think that he has no interest in signing the QO. If I'm the Suns I got up a few mil to allow him to save face and that's it. 4 yr 52M. Done

That's just his personality or his face. But there were plenty of times when he was cheering from the sidelines when he was resting and he looked really into it.

This whole fiasco will be overlooked when we get back on our exciting winning ways again.

[LukasBMW]

4/54 and no player option on the last year.

Get that sh !t done.

If he blows out his knee, the new cap means the contract won't be TOO bad.

If he stays healthy, it's a good deal.