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Re: The 2016 Offseason Thread 

Post#1261 » by bwgood77 » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:41 pm

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NTB wrote:Kobe Bryant - Dwyane Wade - Jimmy Butler - Klay Thompson - DeMarcus Cousins - LeBron James - Tom Thibodeau - Gregg Popovich.

This is not any sort of fantasy team.

These players/coaches are all praised Booker.

This kid is real. If he is not in starting 5 next season, our coaching staff and front office is dumb.

The one argument that I would have for not starting him would to be to continue building chemistry with the rest of the young guys from summer league. I like the idea of having lineups of Bled/Knight/PJ/Dudley/Chandler starting and having Ulis/Booker/TJ with Bender/Chriss/Len rotating at the big spots off the bench. I think Ulis would be more confident playing with Booker and would have more opportunities to be a playmaker for Bender/Chriss/Len than he would with Knight as a running mate.

In fact, I might even argue more for having TJ start over PJ than Booker over Knight. TJ is going to do what he does, regardless of who he's on the court with (it's great when you can say that about a guys who doesn't dominate the ball), PJ would give the young guys some energy to feed off of so they don't get overwhelmed (Book and Ulis are very poised, but still very young).

This is not to say that Booker isn't great or that he shouldn't start, but I can see a good reason to bring him off the bench still.


Yeah, I wouldn't mind that either. I really don't care AS LONG as Booker gets the most minutes. But I also don't think we can just assume Ulis will be ready to immediately come in against real NBA players as the immediate back up and come in as quickly as Booker would. The trade forum wanted me to write up something on the Suns offseason (that I believe posts tomorrow) including depth chart so I penciled in Booker as the starter. Kind of a tough one because I'm not sure that's what I THINK will for sure happen.

I do really hope that if Knight is in there with the really young guys he doesn't always resort just to hero ball. I do think Booker would have a tendency to get the others more involved then Knight, but come the start of the season, I will have an open mind about Knight.
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Re: The 2016 Offseason Thread 

Post#1262 » by oddity » Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:48 pm

MrMiyagi wrote:
NTB wrote:Kobe Bryant - Dwyane Wade - Jimmy Butler - Klay Thompson - DeMarcus Cousins - LeBron James - Tom Thibodeau - Gregg Popovich.

This is not any sort of fantasy team.

These players/coaches are all praised Booker.

This kid is real. If he is not in starting 5 next season, our coaching staff and front office is dumb.

The one argument that I would have for not starting him would to be to continue building chemistry with the rest of the young guys from summer league. I like the idea of having lineups of Bled/Knight/PJ/Dudley/Chandler starting and having Ulis/Booker/TJ with Bender/Chriss/Len rotating at the big spots off the bench. I think Ulis would be more confident playing with Booker and would have more opportunities to be a playmaker for Bender/Chriss/Len than he would with Knight as a running mate.

In fact, I might even argue more for having TJ start over PJ than Booker over Knight. TJ is going to do what he does, regardless of who he's on the court with (it's great when you can say that about a guys who doesn't dominate the ball), PJ would give the young guys some energy to feed off of so they don't get overwhelmed (Book and Ulis are very poised, but still very young).

This is not to say that Booker isn't great or that he shouldn't start, but I can see a good reason to bring him off the bench still.


I don't disagree that building chemistry with all the young guys could pay off in the future, but when it comes to getting the most out of this roster right now, having a veteran presence on the bench can be really beneficial. I dont wanna have a full lineup of guys who have very little nba experience out there; I can imagine the decision making will be pretty god awful. Also, I think Knight would be most effectively utilized as a microwave scorer off the bench.
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Re: The 2016 Offseason Thread 

Post#1263 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Thu Aug 18, 2016 5:20 pm

Knight is a flamethrower. Guys like that are best coming off the bench, unless the starting lineup is completely devoid of offensive talent - in which case, you're gonna lose games, unless your particular flamethrower is elite (Carmelo, Iverson, Shaq, Curry).

Devin is a better all-around playmaker and will make our team better as part of the first group. Of our three main rotation guards, Booker and Bled are the better distributors and would benefit most from having an outlet like Warren.

Knight really isn't a good match next to Barbosa, but I could see him working well with Bled, Booker or Ulis as part of the second unit - in each case, as the secondary rather than primary ballhandler. The issue with those backcourts is the lack of interior scoring to balance things out. I think Len works better with Knight than Chandler, both because he's a better scorer and because Knight's lob attempts are gross. But there's a huge need for a scoring 4 with, say, a Bled/Ulis-Knight-Tucker-Len unit, which is why I'm really hoping Marquese comes along quickly. In any case, I expect TJ to get a ton of minutes due to our need for scoring inside the painted area.
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Re: The 2016 Offseason Thread 

Post#1264 » by NTB » Thu Aug 18, 2016 7:25 pm

From ESPN...

Ford: We tackled our favorites for Rookie of the Year already. While there's lots of excitement generated by the ROY race, the truth is that only a small handful of rookies make any real impact in the win-loss column for teams.

But by their sophomore year, we can start to expect to see a bigger impact, and we have a stellar group of sophomores.

Let's rank them from 1 to 10 in terms of what we should expect this season.


At least two players, perhaps more, looking like they will be potential All-Stars this season and perhaps superstars before too long.

At the top for me is Karl Anthony-Towns. At this point, the question doesn't seem to be whether he's the best player in this class. The question is just how high he'll climb among the rankings of all players in the next few seasons. I think Towns has the potential to be a top-five player someday. Maybe top two.

Everything we saw in Minnesota last season points to him potentially surpassing Anthony Davis as the top big man in the league.

I'm assuming he's No. 1 on your board as well, Kevin. What should we expect from him in Year 2?

Pelton: I fear setting the bar too high for Towns' second season, which is unfair to someone who won't turn 21 until November. So let's talk about hopes rather than expectations.

I hope Towns will be a defensive anchor in Tom Thibodeau's system despite nominally playing power forward in all likelihood. I hope that and a more competitive Timberwolves team are enough to earn All-Star consideration. And as an observer I hope we get to see Towns in the playoffs, which would be a blast.

The one thing I'll say I expect is that casual fans will fall in love with Towns' game on Christmas Day, when Minnesota will play Oklahoma City on ESPN.

Now things get more interesting. Who's No. 2 for you?

Ford: I've been a Kristaps Porzingis fan since before the draft and everything he did in New York last year makes me think he'll become a perennial All-Star. As he gets stronger and improves his jump shot, I think he's going to be a devastating NBA big man.

I hesitate a bit this season given all of the Knicks' summer additions. With Derrick Rose, Joakim Noah, Courtney Lee and Brandon Jennings in the fold, I wonder if he'll have as many opportunities as he did last season -- especially offensively. I think he'll get the minutes, but it might be harder for him to be the Knicks' No. 2 guy.

Then again, I think Porzingis is so good that even next year he might already be better than all four.

What do you think? I have a feeling you're bullish on a different international player at No. 2.

Pelton: Yeah, I had Nikola Jokic here the last time we did this exercise, and nothing that has happened since has changed my mind. While it hasn't been a great Olympics overall for Jokic, who has struggled with foul trouble at times and is playing behind former NBA center Miroslav Raduljica, watching him rain fire on a helpless U.S. defense showed a glimpse of his tantalizing skills.

There are good reasons to believe that Porzingis is only scratching the surface of his potential: He's 21 and the adjustment to the NBA (and in particular the NBA 3-point line) is often difficult for first-year international players.

Here's the thing, though: All of that applies to Jokic too, and he was by many all-in-one measures the better player as a rookie. It will be interesting to see how Michael Malone handles having Jokic and a healthy Jusuf Nurkic this season, but whatever the solution it shouldn't be to take minutes away from Jokic.

Ford: I see the appeal of Jokic both statistically and on the court. And the performance against the U.S. was impressive (though he's not the only one shredding Team USA's defense this summer). He's definitely in my top five.

But I'm going to go with the Suns' Devin Booker here. He was one of the youngest rookies in the league last year. His skill set as a ball handler and a passer are developing nicely. His work ethic is outstanding. And he can really, really shoot the basketball. I see a lot of Klay Thompson in Booker and given how well he played post All-Star break, I think he's in for a breakout sophomore season.

Pelton: If not second, Porzingis has to be third. My concern with the Knicks' offseason is more that bringing in Noah and Porzingis' former Sevilla teammate Willy Hernangomez seems to block Porzingis' path to center, where I think he can be a devastating offensive force. But given Noah's history of injuries, Porizingis may end up seeing minutes there, and he's pretty good at power forward too.

Who's fourth for you?

Ford: Jokic for me. And I'm tempted to go with several guards who might be able to take big leaps in Year 2, but for all the reasons you stated, I think Jokic is the safest pick here.

You had D'Angelo Russell at No. 4 at the end of the season. Is he still No. 4 for you now?

Pelton: Since we're talking strictly about performance next season and not looking that far ahead, I'm going to go in a different direction.

After the three top finishers for Rookie of the Year, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson might have been the next-best rookie last season because of his defensive value. When he was on the court, Hollis-Jefferson ranked fourth among rookies who averaged at least 15 minutes per game in ESPN's real plus-minus behind the three players ahead of him on this list.

Hollis-Jefferson missed 50 games because of a fractured ankle, but is fully recovered now and should benefit offensively from the Nets upgrading at point guard with the addition of Jeremy Lin.

Who rounds out your top five?

Ford: I'm having a hard time separating the pack after those four. Jefferson, along with the Pacers' Myles Turner, the Heat's Justise Winslow, the Nuggets' Emmanuel Mudiay and Russell are all in the running for me. I could make a case for each of them having a breakout season and in all five cases, they should be playing significant minutes for their team.

Hollis-Jefferson is a defensive monster. So is Winslow and his offensive output should increase now that Dwyane Wade and Luol Deng are both gone. Mudiay and Russell showed the obvious growing pains that accompany rookie point guards, but I expect to see major improvements for both of them this season.

And Turner was a real surprise for me last year with how quickly he adapted to the NBA. His performance during the playoffs, especially as a shot-blocker, was wowing. If I'm forced to pick from that group, I think I'd lean Turner.

How about you, Kevin?

Pelton: I'm going to stick with lower-upside veterans and go with Winslow's Miami teammate Josh Richardson. After he shot a respectable 37.0 percent on 3-pointers in the playoffs, Richardson's second-half shooting surge looks less like a fluke, and he was effective running the point during a brief three-game cameo at the Orlando Pro Summer League. Add that to Richardson's proven defensive aptitude and he looks like a league-average player or better.

With Wade and Joe Johnson heading elsewhere, it's possible that Richardson could be the Heat's best option at shooting guard next to Goran Dragic as well as in the mix for minutes behind Dragic, so I think he'll make a big impact in Year 2.

Ford: Here's my next five:

6. Emmanuel Mudiay
7. Justise Winslow
8. D'Angelo Russell
9. Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
10. Josh Richardson

I'm a bit of a Mudiay homer. He was terrible the first half of the season but came on late. If he can improve his shot selection and cut down on turnovers, I think he still has a really high ceiling. He also should get plenty of minutes in Denver this year.

Winslow was a terrific defender as a rookie and now he'll get more of an offensive opportunity now. Russell was much better during the second half of the season for the Lakers and should also get more opportunities to score and create. Hollis-Jefferson is a jump shot away from being a dominant two-way player, and I agree that Richardson has a shot to have a breakout year with Wade gone.

I didn't even mention Utah's Trey Lyles, the Sixers' Jahlil Okafor, the Pistons' Stanley Johnson and the Celtics' Terry Rozier, who had a bit of a coming-out party in the summer league. It's a pretty loaded class.

Pelton: I've got:

6. Devin Booker
7. D'Angelo Russell
8. Justise Winslow
9. Myles Turner
10. Emmanuel Mudiay

I'd put Booker and Russell in a similar category. I think both are likely to be good offensive players but their poor defense will limit their value. Booker may have to defend small forwards on a regular basis next season playing alongside Eric Bledsoe and Brandon Knight, and Russell got torched in summer league, as he did during the regular season.

Winslow is the opposite; I might move him up to sixth if Chris Bosh doesn't return and he gets to play power forward. Otherwise, I think his non-shooting is too much of an issue at small forward.

Turner is also going to be asked to do a lot anchoring the Pacers' defense.


Chad Ford:

1. Towns
2. Porzingis
3. Booker
4. Jokic
5. Turner
6. Mudiay
7. Winslow
8. Russell
9. RHJ
10. Josh Richardson

Kevin Pelton:

1. Towns
2. Jokic
3. Porzingis
4. RHJ
5. Josh Richardson
6. Booker
7. Russell
8. Winslow
9. Turner
10. Mudiay

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Re: The 2016 Offseason Thread 

Post#1265 » by oddity » Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:29 pm

NTB wrote:
Chad Ford:

1. Towns
2. Porzingis
3. Booker
4. Jokic
5. Turner
6. Mudiay
7. Winslow
8. Russell
9. RHJ
10. Josh Richardson

Kevin Pelton:

1. Towns
2. Jokic
3. Porzingis
4. RHJ
5. Josh Richardson
6. Booker
7. Russell
8. Winslow
9. Turner
10. Mudiay


Pelton is on crack. Either that or he's trying to sound too hipster putting such alternative choices on what should be a very straightforward list.

As for Chad Ford, his top 5 matches mine perfectly. I can't tell if that's a good sign for him, or a bad sign for me...
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Re: The 2016 Offseason Thread 

Post#1266 » by ATTL » Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:31 am

Rhj is a role player, Richardson averaged under 7ppg. Top 5 it is.
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The 2016 Offseason Thread 

Post#1267 » by Jdiddy701 » Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:13 am

Give me Devin Booker over KP all day.


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Re: The 2016 Offseason Thread 

Post#1268 » by LukasBMW » Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:10 am

Ford is spot on. Pelton is an idiot.

Towns, KP, Booker are the clear top 3. I don't think it's even a debate.


But no Okafor for either of them? WTF? He is super super underrated. I'd still take him in a second. :banghead:

I'd also love to steal Turner away. If Indiana does well this year and starts to forget about him, I'd love to snag him for one of our vets. :nod:
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Post#1269 » by bwgood77 » Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:19 am

LukasBMW wrote:Ford is spot on. Pelton is an idiot.

Towns, KP, Booker are the clear top 3. I don't think it's even a debate.


But no Okafor for either of them? WTF? He is super super underrated. I'd still take him in a second. :banghead:

I'd also love to steal Turner away. If Indiana does well this year and starts to forget about him, I'd love to snag him for one of our vets. :nod:


I hadn't even realized Okafor was completely left off. That is a bit crazy.

Actually I like Pelton far better than Ford when getting real NBA takes, and I haven't seen at least one of the guys he had ranked ahead of Booker at all, but he is looking at defense too. Jokic led ALL centers in RPM this season. He is underrated actually.

I think Booker will end up a bigger name and star than all but maybe the two you mention with him, but guys like Jokic and RHJ will certainly make their impacts...RHJ is a great defender.

Okafor was WAY WAY last in DRPM for all centers. Like FAR below the rest, along with Kanter. Okafor will probably be like a Kanter, who gets you offense, but your team might be worse with him on the floor (if you are a good team) so he is better served off the bench or in certain situations or surrounded by really good defensive players.
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Post#1270 » by lilfishi22 » Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:23 am

Wouldn't be surprised to see Booker ending up a bigger name and star than all of them. Not necessarily because he's a better player but because guards generally tend to become bigger stars easier.
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Re: The 2016 Offseason Thread 

Post#1271 » by NTB » Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:17 am

Bledsoe's GP:

2010/11 = 81
2011/12 = 40
2012/13 = 76
2013/14 = 43
2014/15 = 81
2015/16 = 31

So...he will hopefully play 70+ games this season :clap: :lol:
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Post#1274 » by LukasBMW » Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:38 am

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LukasBMW wrote:Ford is spot on. Pelton is an idiot.

Towns, KP, Booker are the clear top 3. I don't think it's even a debate.


But no Okafor for either of them? WTF? He is super super underrated. I'd still take him in a second. :banghead:

I'd also love to steal Turner away. If Indiana does well this year and starts to forget about him, I'd love to snag him for one of our vets. :nod:


I hadn't even realized Okafor was completely left off. That is a bit crazy.

Actually I like Pelton far better than Ford when getting real NBA takes, and I haven't seen at least one of the guys he had ranked ahead of Booker at all, but he is looking at defense too. Jokic led ALL centers in RPM this season. He is underrated actually.

I think Booker will end up a bigger name and star than all but maybe the two you mention with him, but guys like Jokic and RHJ will certainly make their impacts...RHJ is a great defender.

Okafor was WAY WAY last in DRPM for all centers. Like FAR below the rest, along with Kanter. Okafor will probably be like a Kanter, who gets you offense, but your team might be worse with him on the floor (if you are a good team) so he is better served off the bench or in certain situations or surrounded by really good defensive players.


Regarding DRPM, how much do you think that playing on a historically bad Sixers team full of d-leage talent skewed this stat?

I think Okafor could really really surprise people. Seems like everyone is writing him off.
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Post#1275 » by MrMiyagi » Sat Aug 20, 2016 10:06 am

LukasBMW wrote:Regarding DRPM, how much do you think that playing on a historically bad Sixers team full of d-leage talent skewed this stat?

I think Okafor could really really surprise people. Seems like everyone is writing him off.


It doesn't help that he's the odd man out in Philly... at least on paper.

Simmons/Embiid and Simmons/Noel both seem to be reasonable front courts. Simmons/Okafor not so much because neither are considered to be much of a rim protector because it seems unlikely that either will ever average 2 blocks a game (which tends to be the end all, be all of rim protection, Jah had an opponent FG% of 49.9%, only .3% more that KAT). But, I think if Jah is consistently banging with opposing bigs on defense and Simmons can anticipate entry passes and pick opposing bigs' pockets (or even become a weak side shot blocker), they'll be in fine shape. The other part of it is they're both kind of "give me the ball and let me work" guys on offense. But, again, I think they can work that out - Jah's not a bad passer and can work a 2 man game well enough, Simmons needs to develop an outside shot and make cuts off the ball, they could make it work.

But this is also coming from a guy who believes players can continue to develop #StillGotLove4Archie #NeverGonnaGiveYouUp #KentuckyWestOG
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Re: The 2016 Offseason Thread 

Post#1276 » by jcsunsfan » Sat Aug 20, 2016 4:45 pm

LukasBMW wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
LukasBMW wrote:Ford is spot on. Pelton is an idiot.

Towns, KP, Booker are the clear top 3. I don't think it's even a debate.


But no Okafor for either of them? WTF? He is super super underrated. I'd still take him in a second. :banghead:

I'd also love to steal Turner away. If Indiana does well this year and starts to forget about him, I'd love to snag him for one of our vets. :nod:


I hadn't even realized Okafor was completely left off. That is a bit crazy.

Actually I like Pelton far better than Ford when getting real NBA takes, and I haven't seen at least one of the guys he had ranked ahead of Booker at all, but he is looking at defense too. Jokic led ALL centers in RPM this season. He is underrated actually.

I think Booker will end up a bigger name and star than all but maybe the two you mention with him, but guys like Jokic and RHJ will certainly make their impacts...RHJ is a great defender.

Okafor was WAY WAY last in DRPM for all centers. Like FAR below the rest, along with Kanter. Okafor will probably be like a Kanter, who gets you offense, but your team might be worse with him on the floor (if you are a good team) so he is better served off the bench or in certain situations or surrounded by really good defensive players.


Regarding DRPM, how much do you think that playing on a historically bad Sixers team full of d-leage talent skewed this stat?

I think Okafor could really really surprise people. Seems like everyone is writing him off.


I have been thinking about this. I have not been a big Okafor fan, but his value seems to have plummetted too far. This could be a buy low moment.
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Post#1277 » by NavLDO » Sat Aug 20, 2016 5:04 pm

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LukasBMW wrote:Regarding DRPM, how much do you think that playing on a historically bad Sixers team full of d-leage talent skewed this stat?

I think Okafor could really really surprise people. Seems like everyone is writing him off.


It doesn't help that he's the odd man out in Philly... at least on paper.

Simmons/Embiid and Simmons/Noel both [b]seem to be reasonable front courts[/b]. Simmons/Okafor not so much because neither are considered to be much of a rim protector because it seems unlikely that either will ever average 2 blocks a game (which tends to be the end all, be all of rim protection, Jah had an opponent FG% of 49.9%, only .3% more that KAT). But, I think if Jah is consistently banging with opposing bigs on defense and Simmons can anticipate entry passes and pick opposing bigs' pockets (or even become a weak side shot blocker), they'll be in fine shape. The other part of it is they're both kind of "give me the ball and let me work" guys on offense. But, again, I think they can work that out - Jah's not a bad passer and can work a 2 man game well enough, Simmons needs to develop an outside shot and make cuts off the ball, they could make it work.

But this is also coming from a guy who believes players can continue to develop #StillGotLove4Archie #NeverGonnaGiveYouUp #KentuckyWestOG


But I've read recently somewhere that the team actually favors Richaun Holmes and Jerami Grant. And then there's Saric, Covington, and Landry. And at SF, where they have all these guys listed on RealGM Depth Chart, there's Luwawu, and Hollis Thompson who is shooting a career 39% from 3 over 846 attempts in 3 years.

The Sixers are 'flooded' with talent between the 3-5 spots, with what I'd say are at least 7-8 starter-worthy personnel. The need to offload some of those guys, and if they are offering Okafor, Noel, Holmes, Grant, Covington, Thompon, or Landry, I hope McD can find a deal in there somewhere for us. Especially if Knight is in the 'outgoing' category. I'm still not a fan of our PF situation early in the season, and don't feel Duds should be getting 30 minutes a night at PF.
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Re: The 2016 Offseason Thread 

Post#1278 » by bwgood77 » Sat Aug 20, 2016 5:28 pm

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I hadn't even realized Okafor was completely left off. That is a bit crazy.

Actually I like Pelton far better than Ford when getting real NBA takes, and I haven't seen at least one of the guys he had ranked ahead of Booker at all, but he is looking at defense too. Jokic led ALL centers in RPM this season. He is underrated actually.

I think Booker will end up a bigger name and star than all but maybe the two you mention with him, but guys like Jokic and RHJ will certainly make their impacts...RHJ is a great defender.

Okafor was WAY WAY last in DRPM for all centers. Like FAR below the rest, along with Kanter. Okafor will probably be like a Kanter, who gets you offense, but your team might be worse with him on the floor (if you are a good team) so he is better served off the bench or in certain situations or surrounded by really good defensive players.


Regarding DRPM, how much do you think that playing on a historically bad Sixers team full of d-leage talent skewed this stat?

I think Okafor could really really surprise people. Seems like everyone is writing him off.


I have been thinking about this. I have not been a big Okafor fan, but his value seems to have plummetted too far. This could be a buy low moment.

Sure I'd trade Knight for him but unless we dump another center we'd be a little clogged at that position. It seems we have good chemistry tight now and high character guys so I kind of doubt they'd want to take a risk on a guy that may have character issues. Don't know that we need another guy who has put a beating on people. We also really need better rim protectors at that spot.
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Re: The 2016 Offseason Thread 

Post#1279 » by LukasBMW » Sat Aug 20, 2016 11:39 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:
LukasBMW wrote:
Regarding DRPM, how much do you think that playing on a historically bad Sixers team full of d-leage talent skewed this stat?

I think Okafor could really really surprise people. Seems like everyone is writing him off.


I have been thinking about this. I have not been a big Okafor fan, but his value seems to have plummetted too far. This could be a buy low moment.

Sure I'd trade Knight for him but unless we dump another center we'd be a little clogged at that position. It seems we have good chemistry tight now and high character guys so I kind of doubt they'd want to take a risk on a guy that may have character issues. Don't know that we need another guy who has put a beating on people. We also really need better rim protectors at that spot.


I agree that at this point, we need to roll with what we got for chemistry reasons. I'm curious to see how it turns out. It seems the Suns are not 100% set on going with a stretch 4 smallball lineup given their interest in Milsap, but I can understand their concerns over Okafor due to gambles on Beasley, Keef, and a few others that were disasters.

I think Okafor could have a breakout season. I also think he could get buried (especially if Embiid is healthy) and get into trouble.

But I think that if by mideason we are struggling with interior scoring, Knight isn't enjoying his 6th man role, and Ulis looks like he is ready to be our backup PG of the future, then I'd hope a Knight for Okafor swap would still be on the table.
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Re: The 2016 Offseason Thread 

Post#1280 » by oddity » Sun Aug 21, 2016 1:50 am

bwgood77 wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:
LukasBMW wrote:
Regarding DRPM, how much do you think that playing on a historically bad Sixers team full of d-leage talent skewed this stat?

I think Okafor could really really surprise people. Seems like everyone is writing him off.


I have been thinking about this. I have not been a big Okafor fan, but his value seems to have plummetted too far. This could be a buy low moment.

Sure I'd trade Knight for him but unless we dump another center we'd be a little clogged at that position. It seems we have good chemistry tight now and high character guys so I kind of doubt they'd want to take a risk on a guy that may have character issues. Don't know that we need another guy who has put a beating on people. We also really need better rim protectors at that spot.


I think we're still rebuilding and if we have the chance to score a possible premier offensive talent from the center position that fits right into our core of 18 - 19 yr olds than it's a deal too good to pass. Chemistry goes out the window for now if it means possibly having a much stronger lineup for years to come.
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