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Who would you take at 3 if Ayton/Doncic gone?

Bamba
9
13%
Bagley
11
16%
Jackson
9
13%
Porter
25
36%
Young
16
23%
 
Total votes: 70

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Post#1261 » by Saberestar » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:50 am

gaspar wrote:
kennydorglas wrote:Ayton - KAT
Bagley - Griffin
Bamba - Gobert
JJJ - Bosh? Ibaka?

Ayton - Jahlil Okafor with a better jumper
Bagley - 6-11 Kenneth Faried
Bamba - Hasheem Thabeet
JJJ - Noah Vonleh

Trae - DJ Augustin
Sexton - Tony Wroten
Doncic - Denzel Valentine

It is sad, but these comparisions are spot on IMO if we are talking about their floor as a players in the NBA.

I have been thinking about Bamba being the new Thabeet a few times before. His shooting is way better but he does not have a good feel for the game.
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Post#1262 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:18 pm

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lilfishi22 wrote:I don't see Amare in Bagley. Bosh makes a lot more sense imo. He's longer but less explosive and doesn't appear to be as strong as Amare either although that will change over time. I was wrong about Bagley, I saw a lot of bust potential in him before he college season started but he's changed my mind.

He still has a ton of bust potential for a top5 guy, if he ends up as just a garbage man, that's pretty bad

He is much more similar to Amare than anything, less power and better defensive tools (footwork esp), I know that the body type doesnt make sense, but otherwise their games are pretty similar

He still has bust potential but not nearly as much as I thought. I was really hesitant in giving him a top 5 spot in the beginning but he's slowly moving up.
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Post#1263 » by Bogyo » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:34 pm

JJJ and the Bridges brothers playing tonight - right before the Suns game. Looking forward to see JJJ. I don't think the Bridges bros are on our radar, but Jalen Brunson is a late first on tankathon and mid second on nbadraft.net - might as well keep an eye on him.
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Post#1264 » by Desertfox » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:39 pm

I do want Mikal, especially if we trade one of our SFs (say for Aaron Gordon).
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Post#1265 » by Bogyo » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:34 pm

Desertfox wrote:I do want Mikal, especially if we trade one of our SFs (say for Aaron Gordon).


Ahhh, a lesser brother! :lol:
Jokes aside, if we do trade one of our SFs he could be good to have as a do-it-all type of wing.
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Post#1266 » by bwgood77 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:07 pm

Bogyo wrote:JJJ and the Bridges brothers playing tonight - right before the Suns game. Looking forward to see JJJ. I don't think the Bridges bros are on our radar, but Jalen Brunson is a late first on tankathon and mid second on nbadraft.net - might as well keep an eye on him.


JJJ 12 points on only 6 shots, 2 3s (2/3), 8 rebounds, 4 blocks and a steal. 2/2 from the line.

Miles Bridges not so good shooting today but got 9 boards, 4 asssists, a block and a steal

Brunson pouring in the points...31 with 3 minutes left on 10/17 shooting.

Mikal Bridges with a solid game with 16 on 50% shooting so far, with 4 boards, 2 steals, 2 assists and a block.
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Post#1267 » by Bogyo » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:11 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Bogyo wrote:JJJ and the Bridges brothers playing tonight - right before the Suns game. Looking forward to see JJJ. I don't think the Bridges bros are on our radar, but Jalen Brunson is a late first on tankathon and mid second on nbadraft.net - might as well keep an eye on him.


JJJ 12 points on only 6 shots, 2 3s (2/3), 8 rebounds, 4 blocks and a steal. 2/2 from the line.

Miles Bridges not so good shooting today but got 9 boards, 4 asssists, a block and a steal

Brunson pouring in the points...31 with 3 minutes left on 10/17 shooting. Mikal Bridges with a solid game with 16 on 50% shooting so far, with 3 boards, 2 steals and assist and a block.


JJJ with foul trouble, but otherwise an OK game. Had a huge block with 4 fouls. Brunson could be intresting with the Miami pick, if he keeps it up in february/march. He won't light the world on fire, but could be a solid pg off the bench.
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Post#1268 » by Thebullsgod1993 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:13 pm

PG Devin Booker
SG Josh Jackson
SF TJ Warren
PF Marquese Chriss
C Deandre Ayton

Or

PG Trae Young
SG Devin Booker
SF Josh Jackson
PF TJ Warren
C Dragan Bender
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Post#1269 » by Thebullsgod1993 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:22 pm

Atlanta -Dennis Schroeder
Sacramento - Dearon Fox
Dallas - Dennis smith Jr
Memphis Mike Conley
Brooklyn deangelo Russell
Chicago Bulls Kriss Dunn

All the top eight picks right now besides Orlando have arguably there pg of the future. I don't see anyone besides Orlando maybe Chicago taking Trae Young. i can see the Suns getting him.
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Post#1270 » by Kerrsed » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:33 pm

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Kerrsed wrote:I still loved what i saw from Young. Even through his teammates short comings he still tried to get them involved. It amazes me how much he is able to do with how little. And on the other hand, still not impressed with Sexton. Like Bledsoe minus the court vision and playmaking (Which really says something because Bledsoe lacked in those areas too). IDK, i guess i just expect more from a PG, Sexton seems to be decent is some aspects, and completely lacking in others, while also not being great at anything.
What I like about Sexton is his floor, he is gonna be a solid rotation player at the very worst, transition scorer, has balls and will force things if needed, plays tough on D when needed, that's fine, but like I don't see the upside, the pull-up jumper is rigid and I have a hard time seeing him as a good off-ball player, his playmaking lacks a ton, he is the ideal guy if he improves his shooting to have next to a playmaking wing, so that as a floor is fine, I just don't see him ever been an All Star level guard, or close to it (top10 PG).


I kinda agree with that, but thats why i dont like him, you see his floor, and its pretty average. I also dont think that he has a high ceiling and will ever reach it, just stays on the floor, and those types of players are a dime a dozen in the NBA and can be traded for for very little, so why waste a high draft pick on a guy like that. Doesnt make sense to me. I go Boom or Bust. Go after the guys with the crazy high ceiling rather than a higher floor.
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Post#1271 » by Kerrsed » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:36 pm

Thebullsgod1993 wrote:Atlanta -Dennis Schroeder
Sacramento - Dearon Fox
Dallas - Dennis smith Jr
Memphis Mike Conley
Brooklyn deangelo Russell
Chicago Bulls Kriss Dunn

All the top eight picks right now besides Orlando have arguably there pg of the future. I don't see anyone besides Orlando maybe Chicago taking Trae Young. i can see the Suns getting him.


You are forgetting Cleveland. I could see them nabbing Young. In my eyes its Orlando and Cleveland most likely to take him before us.
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Post#1272 » by DirtyDez » Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:34 am

Thebullsgod1993 wrote:Atlanta -Dennis Schroeder
Sacramento - Dearon Fox
Dallas - Dennis smith Jr
Memphis Mike Conley
Brooklyn deangelo Russell
Chicago Bulls Kriss Dunn

All the top eight picks right now besides Orlando have arguably there pg of the future. I don't see anyone besides Orlando maybe Chicago taking Trae Young. i can see the Suns getting him.


If those teams are sitting 3-4 with Bagley/Ayton off the board they should take Young anyway. Especially Memphis and Chicago.
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Post#1273 » by Mulhollanddrive » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:35 am

Bagley could be an awkward fit for modern NBA as he'll need a 3+D player at Center to cover up his weaknesses.
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Post#1274 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:02 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Bagley could be an awkward fit for modern NBA as he'll need a 3+D player at Center to cover up his weaknesses.

I think he'll fit well Bender. Today's positionless basketball means that they can both be on the floor at the same time and Bagley's ability to rebound, score at the hoop and create hustle plays will be made better by Bender's ability to stretch the defense and play and inside out game with him. I think of it like Bender/Len but with a much more competent Len.
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Post#1275 » by bwgood77 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:09 am

I really do wonder who is at the top of McD's board. I mean if we somehow got the #1 pick in the lottery can you really pass up on Doncic? Trae Young seems perfect and we obviously need a center but man, I'd hate to see a botched choice in this one.

I also wonder what type of influx of fans we would have in this forum if we did draft Doncic. I imagine quite a few.

I probably posted this before, but it's a good article to read... http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20668236/there-never-nba-draft-prospect-slovenia-luka-doncic
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Post#1276 » by sunsbum » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:39 am

bwgood77 wrote:I really do wonder who is at the top of McD's board. I mean if we somehow got the #1 pick in the lottery can you really pass up on Doncic? Trae Young seems perfect and we obviously need a center but man, I'd hate to see a botched choice in this one.

I also wonder what type of influx of fans we would have in this forum if we did draft Doncic. I imagine quite a few.

I probably posted this before, but it's a good article to read... http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20668236/there-never-nba-draft-prospect-slovenia-luka-doncic


If we get the #1 pick I would definitely trade down a few spots and see if we could swing the miami pick, bucks pick and whatever pick we get in the trade down to pick up another top 10 pick. Yes, another double top 10 pick.
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Post#1277 » by bwgood77 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:47 am

sunsbum wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:I really do wonder who is at the top of McD's board. I mean if we somehow got the #1 pick in the lottery can you really pass up on Doncic? Trae Young seems perfect and we obviously need a center but man, I'd hate to see a botched choice in this one.

I also wonder what type of influx of fans we would have in this forum if we did draft Doncic. I imagine quite a few.

I probably posted this before, but it's a good article to read... http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20668236/there-never-nba-draft-prospect-slovenia-luka-doncic


If we get the #1 pick I would definitely trade down a few spots and see if we could swing the miami pick, bucks pick and whatever pick we get in the trade down to pick up another top 10 pick. Yes, another double top 10 pick.


This feels a bit like the 84 draft where Hakeem was taken 1, but then Bowie, Jordan, Perkins and Barkley. Some big hits and misses. I don't think Doncic is Jordan, or necessarily that any of those other great picks will be what they are, but I feel like it's a draft you REALLY need to hit and not miss. Doncic is the player that lifts his team big time doing crazy things as well as Trae..but then you have all those bigs, and then Porter, compared to George/Durant...but of course he hasn't played. I think Mikal Bridges is really safe and probably like Ariza if we end up at 8.
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Post#1278 » by Mulhollanddrive » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:21 am

Have we ever won a lottery top 3 pick? It would be a great time to do it.

I think McDonough's BB would be Doncic, Young, Ayton, Jackson, Bamba / Trade
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Post#1279 » by Qwigglez » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:33 am

I'm honestly nervous about getting someone like Young or Bagley. I feel both won't translate well going into the NBA. For Young, I feel he is too slow and too short to keep up with other PG's. I think Jamal Murray is a good comparison, except I feel Murray is more explosive, but Young is a better passer. Bagley I think gets by a lot of players because he simply faster than them, but it won't work in the NBA.

I like Ayton some, but he should go No 1 so it's doubtful we get him. Porter is who I really want, even though he hasn't played this year. Doncic I'm afraid is slow laterally, and will get beat by almost every PG he faces. He makes exceptional passes but he doesn't have the creativity of someone like Kyrie or Curry when it comes to dribbling.

Really the only two players I would feel comfortable taking is Ayton or Porer, anyone else and I'm very hesitant.

Best case scenario we end up with the 4th pick again, and Hawks/Magic take Young/Doncic, Dallas takes Ayton, and we take Porter Jr. Kings may end up taking him or Bagley, so I would prefer we make that decision. Porter reminds me a lot of Tatum who I really liked in last year's draft.

Edit* also for safe measures, we take his brother with the Bucks or Heat pick, or package those picks together to move up to get him. Want to make sure we don't end up with the lesser brother.

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Post#1280 » by Desertfox » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:08 pm

If we get a top 3 pick Ayton/Donic or trade down and get JJJ or Porter. If we want an undersize, scoring PG, with no defense, I hear Isaiah Thomas might be available...

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