2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 5 - The KD era begins
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I can’t wait to hear the Crowder boos next time he plays in Phoenix. He’ll deserve all of it and more.
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Blonde wrote:I can’t wait to hear the Crowder boos next time he plays in Phoenix. He’ll deserve all of it and more.
I legit checked to see when the Bucks have to come to Phoenix. March 14 is the day.....hope they boo the F outta him lol.
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The deadline for players to get waived and retain playoff eligibility is March 1, so we have more than a couple weeks to round out the final roster.
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I did not not that Saric has been traded to the Thunder for a forward 6-9 215 who is in his 3rd year in the L.
Finally someone athletic to play forward.
Yes, we need to at least sign one player out of Barton, Ross, Wall and Jackson.
Barton and Ross both would be idealistic additions to play SH here and score points with many more duties to acomplish.
Wall or Jackson could be an update over Payne and insurance in case Paul gets injured.
I would have loved whoever as a back up center for Ayton.
Finally someone athletic to play forward.
Yes, we need to at least sign one player out of Barton, Ross, Wall and Jackson.
Barton and Ross both would be idealistic additions to play SH here and score points with many more duties to acomplish.
Wall or Jackson could be an update over Payne and insurance in case Paul gets injured.
I would have loved whoever as a back up center for Ayton.
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Crowder was a key part of the team for the best 2 years in a generation, PJ Tucker actually beat us for a championship - I don't like him more.
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POLI wrote:I did not not that Saric has been traded to the Thunder for a forward 6-9 215 who is in his 3rd year in the L.
Finally someone athletic to play forward.
Yes, we need to at least sign one player out of Barton, Ross, Wall and Jackson.
Barton and Ross both would be idealistic additions to play SH here and score points with many more duties to acomplish.
Wall or Jackson could be an update over Payne and insurance in case Paul gets injured.
I would have loved whoever as a back up center for Ayton.
How about we waive Shamet or Lee and sign more than 2 buyouts we have roster spots open for? I wouldn't mind Barton, Ross both with guard like Jackson
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I kinda want CamJo to tank the rest of this season so Brooklyn won’t want to re-sign him, then he comes back on a very friendly deal next season. Obviously he will get bigger contract offers from other teams, so he will have to sacrifice money for family. Don’t see it happening, but would be nice.
I fear we won’t be able to get Mikal back for a long time, if ever, and that’s just tragic to me.
I fear we won’t be able to get Mikal back for a long time, if ever, and that’s just tragic to me.
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I’d like the suns to get D Rose over Jackson if he gets bought out. D Rose needs a ring
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Gorilla Warfare wrote:I kinda want CamJo to tank the rest of this season so Brooklyn won’t want to re-sign him, then he comes back on a very friendly deal next season. Obviously he will get bigger contract offers from other teams, so he will have to sacrifice money for family. Don’t see it happening, but would be nice.
I fear we won’t be able to get Mikal back for a long time, if ever, and that’s just tragic to me.
I keep going back and forth on this trade
If Durant were 30 - no brainer
He is not - plus he is injured
I think for mikal, cam, jae and those picks - the Suns could have used three of them and Cam J and got Siakam
the key is the buyout market - Ish and Lee might deserve NBA contracts but the Suns need one solid veteran from the buyout market
granted, a lot depends on Payne and Shamet - if Payne comes back - that means Barton might be the better choice
If Payne is not due back at any time, would say Reggie Jackson
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JoRain wrote:POLI wrote:I did not not that Saric has been traded to the Thunder for a forward 6-9 215 who is in his 3rd year in the L.
Finally someone athletic to play forward.
Yes, we need to at least sign one player out of Barton, Ross, Wall and Jackson.
Barton and Ross both would be idealistic additions to play SH here and score points with many more duties to acomplish.
Wall or Jackson could be an update over Payne and insurance in case Paul gets injured.
I would have loved whoever as a back up center for Ayton.
How about we waive Shamet or Lee and sign more than 2 buyouts we have roster spots open for? I wouldn't mind Barton, Ross both with guard like Jackson
We NEED Shamet's salary going forward as over the cap cap space to utilize in trades...same with Payne and Bazley. We will also need to re-sign Craig. Otherwise we have no ability to add to the team via trade, and at least all those guys except maybe Bazley who still has upside are decent rotation/bench players.
The minimum guys we sign, Lee, Warren, likely leave for more money this summer unless they will stay for minimum or maybe one on the tax MLE, though we may want to use that for someone else, if we use it at all.
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BobbieL wrote:Gorilla Warfare wrote:I kinda want CamJo to tank the rest of this season so Brooklyn won’t want to re-sign him, then he comes back on a very friendly deal next season. Obviously he will get bigger contract offers from other teams, so he will have to sacrifice money for family. Don’t see it happening, but would be nice.
I fear we won’t be able to get Mikal back for a long time, if ever, and that’s just tragic to me.
I keep going back and forth on this trade
If Durant were 30 - no brainer
He is not - plus he is injured
I think for mikal, cam, jae and those picks - the Suns could have used three of them and Cam J and got Siakam
the key is the buyout market - Ish and Lee might deserve NBA contracts but the Suns need one solid veteran from the buyout market
granted, a lot depends on Payne and Shamet - if Payne comes back - that means Barton might be the better choice
If Payne is not due back at any time, would say Reggie Jackson
It's over..may as well look forward. I will be excited about it but would personally rather sill have Mikal and Cam and all the picks, plus the ability to trade Crowder for something else...even 5 2nds.
But obviously trading for a top 15 player of all time is great.
It's just VERY hard to like the team as much. I really liked Paul after he came...was never a huge fan before. But our team's chemistry and closeness and joy to play together was rare, and I fear now it will be so much pressure it will amp up SO much that it will be a massive disappointment if they don't win it all, and if we thought people were pissed last year...it hurts.
Also not that many care about Ayton but he did lose his best friend who he came into the draft with, and probaby his 2nd best in Cam, partly by extension. He takes a lot of heat already but will likely take more and while I don't think he ever really wanted out, there is a higher chance he will want out this summer I think, just because the camraderie on the team is gone.
It would be interesting if Brooklyn changed their stance on him and we could get like Claxton, DFS and a re-signed Curry for him or something. Would be a nice depth move and beef up our overall D and shooting, bench. Give us that 5th starter in DFS and Claxton could. DA could reunite with Bridges and Cam.
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bwgood77 wrote:BobbieL wrote:Gorilla Warfare wrote:I kinda want CamJo to tank the rest of this season so Brooklyn won’t want to re-sign him, then he comes back on a very friendly deal next season. Obviously he will get bigger contract offers from other teams, so he will have to sacrifice money for family. Don’t see it happening, but would be nice.
I fear we won’t be able to get Mikal back for a long time, if ever, and that’s just tragic to me.
I keep going back and forth on this trade
If Durant were 30 - no brainer
He is not - plus he is injured
I think for mikal, cam, jae and those picks - the Suns could have used three of them and Cam J and got Siakam
the key is the buyout market - Ish and Lee might deserve NBA contracts but the Suns need one solid veteran from the buyout market
granted, a lot depends on Payne and Shamet - if Payne comes back - that means Barton might be the better choice
If Payne is not due back at any time, would say Reggie Jackson
It's over..may as well look forward. I will be excited about it but would personally rather sill have Mikal and Cam and all the picks, plus the ability to trade Crowder for something else...even 5 2nds.
But obviously trading for a top 15 player of all time is great.
It's just VERY hard to like the team as much. I really liked Paul after he came...was never a huge fan before. But our team's chemistry and closeness and joy to play together was rare, and I fear now it will be so much pressure it will amp up SO much that it will be a massive disappointment if they don't win it all, and if we thought people were pissed last year...it hurts.
Also not that many care about Ayton but he did lose his best friend who he came into the draft with, and probaby his 2nd best in Cam, partly by extension. He takes a lot of heat already but will likely take more and while I don't think he ever really wanted out, there is a higher chance he will want out this summer I think, just because the camraderie on the team is gone.
It would be interesting if Brooklyn changed their stance on him and we could get like Claxton, DFS and a re-signed Curry for him or something. Would be a nice depth move and beef up our overall D and shooting, bench. Give us that 5th starter in DFS and Claxton could. DA could reunite with Bridges and Cam.
Yes - you are right - need to move forward. But if the Bucks were truly offering 5 second round picks for Crowder - that was the deal to make. Even if it was Nwora, Ibaka and HIll. Than use those seconds to make another move or two
I think Ishbia wanted to make a splash and got impatient or something. I think he wanted to really make a splash
And right, I liked the team with Mikal and Cam. But will be fun if Durant shows up - and scores his 28-3 per game and the team rolls
That said - would have preferred the smaller moves, keep the picks and see what happened.
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Gorilla Warfare wrote:I kinda want CamJo to tank the rest of this season so Brooklyn won’t want to re-sign him, then he comes back on a very friendly deal next season. Obviously he will get bigger contract offers from other teams, so he will have to sacrifice money for family. Don’t see it happening, but would be nice.
I fear we won’t be able to get Mikal back for a long time, if ever, and that’s just tragic to me.
Dude Mikal is a great guy. But he’s not going to win us a ring or draw great players to come here . Realize that and move on. Cheer him on from the sidelines and now you have another reason to watch an EC team
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It is hard to move on from players you really enjoy on and off the court.
Mikal and Cam were really exceptional in that regard.
I can not remember other players I enjoyed watching beside maybe Barbosa.
They seemed like people I could be friends with.
And that makes it harder to move on.
Basketballwise it is an understandable move. The window for CP3 is thin. Booker will take a lot of pressure off of KD and CP3 can orchestrate. The buy out market will be the place where the championship odds will really get sealed.
I really wish that Bridges somehow comes back, just like Nash did.
Maybe even finish his career here in 10 years or so.
Mikal and Cam were really exceptional in that regard.
I can not remember other players I enjoyed watching beside maybe Barbosa.
They seemed like people I could be friends with.
And that makes it harder to move on.
Basketballwise it is an understandable move. The window for CP3 is thin. Booker will take a lot of pressure off of KD and CP3 can orchestrate. The buy out market will be the place where the championship odds will really get sealed.
I really wish that Bridges somehow comes back, just like Nash did.
Maybe even finish his career here in 10 years or so.
Ishiba is a BUSINESS MAN!
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Dude we got DURANT
Money in jersey sales
Money in ticket sales
Exposure in media
Ability to bring in other stats during buyout (we never had that)
2-3 year window to go win a ring !
We weren’t winning with what we had, and Siakim is not going to give us durant level of play !
Booker has been double and triple teamed ! Now we have 2 players who can go for 30+ !!!!!!
Not sure why y’all let your hearts get in the way of your head.
This was a risk, but well worth it
Money in jersey sales
Money in ticket sales
Exposure in media
Ability to bring in other stats during buyout (we never had that)
2-3 year window to go win a ring !
We weren’t winning with what we had, and Siakim is not going to give us durant level of play !
Booker has been double and triple teamed ! Now we have 2 players who can go for 30+ !!!!!!
Not sure why y’all let your hearts get in the way of your head.
This was a risk, but well worth it
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I've been following the Suns for 35 years. I've watched them lose every season. I'm tired of it. If they can't win it all with Durant it's just another losing chapter in a large book of never good enough but at least this season they got the balls to really try.
The hardest part of being a Suns fan is watching former Suns hoist the trophy with different teams.
The hardest part of being a Suns fan is watching former Suns hoist the trophy with different teams.
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KdoubleDees23 wrote:Gorilla Warfare wrote:I kinda want CamJo to tank the rest of this season so Brooklyn won’t want to re-sign him, then he comes back on a very friendly deal next season. Obviously he will get bigger contract offers from other teams, so he will have to sacrifice money for family. Don’t see it happening, but would be nice.
I fear we won’t be able to get Mikal back for a long time, if ever, and that’s just tragic to me.
Dude Mikal is a great guy. But he’s not going to win us a ring or draw great players to come here . Realize that and move on. Cheer him on from the sidelines and now you have another reason to watch an EC team
We don't know what Mikal would do. He was just breaking out. I always said he would/could probably be like Paul George or Kawhi lite. I still believe that...and we keep Cam who was improving every year too. KD is awesome...we will see how long he stays healthy and plays and if we win it all. KD won one playoff series in Brooklyn playing with Kyrie and some with Harden.
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bwgood77 wrote:KdoubleDees23 wrote:Gorilla Warfare wrote:I kinda want CamJo to tank the rest of this season so Brooklyn won’t want to re-sign him, then he comes back on a very friendly deal next season. Obviously he will get bigger contract offers from other teams, so he will have to sacrifice money for family. Don’t see it happening, but would be nice.
I fear we won’t be able to get Mikal back for a long time, if ever, and that’s just tragic to me.
Dude Mikal is a great guy. But he’s not going to win us a ring or draw great players to come here . Realize that and move on. Cheer him on from the sidelines and now you have another reason to watch an EC team
We don't know what Mikal would do. He was just breaking out. I always said he would/could probably be like Paul George or Kawhi lite. I still believe that...and we keep Cam who was improving every year too. KD is awesome...we will see how long he stays healthy and plays and if we win it all. KD won one playoff series in Brooklyn playing with Kyrie and some with Harden.
Alright . If he’s PG or Kawhi lite - he should make Brooklyn Nets a contender . Lets see if he does or if he folds with a bigger role
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bwgood77 wrote:KdoubleDees23 wrote:Gorilla Warfare wrote:I kinda want CamJo to tank the rest of this season so Brooklyn won’t want to re-sign him, then he comes back on a very friendly deal next season. Obviously he will get bigger contract offers from other teams, so he will have to sacrifice money for family. Don’t see it happening, but would be nice.
I fear we won’t be able to get Mikal back for a long time, if ever, and that’s just tragic to me.
Dude Mikal is a great guy. But he’s not going to win us a ring or draw great players to come here . Realize that and move on. Cheer him on from the sidelines and now you have another reason to watch an EC team
We don't know what Mikal would do. He was just breaking out. I always said he would/could probably be like Paul George or Kawhi lite. I still believe that...and we keep Cam who was improving every year too. KD is awesome...we will see how long he stays healthy and plays and if we win it all. KD won one playoff series in Brooklyn playing with Kyrie and some with Harden.
Ishbia made an emotional decision
I have never wanted KD - tried to talk myself into yesterday
I am back to my initial reaction
The Suns could have got 5 seconds for Crowder
Still made the Saric trade
I wonder if the Nets would have taken a FRP for Dinwiddie - still would have had 3 picks
Hell see what this team does and trade for Siakam this summer with Ayton
I will get over it - but need to see Durant on the damn floor
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bwgood77 wrote:KdoubleDees23 wrote:Gorilla Warfare wrote:I kinda want CamJo to tank the rest of this season so Brooklyn won’t want to re-sign him, then he comes back on a very friendly deal next season. Obviously he will get bigger contract offers from other teams, so he will have to sacrifice money for family. Don’t see it happening, but would be nice.
I fear we won’t be able to get Mikal back for a long time, if ever, and that’s just tragic to me.
Dude Mikal is a great guy. But he’s not going to win us a ring or draw great players to come here . Realize that and move on. Cheer him on from the sidelines and now you have another reason to watch an EC team
We don't know what Mikal would do. He was just breaking out. I always said he would/could probably be like Paul George or Kawhi lite. I still believe that...and we keep Cam who was improving every year too. KD is awesome...we will see how long he stays healthy and plays and if we win it all. KD won one playoff series in Brooklyn playing with Kyrie and some with Harden.
That would require Mikal to get some better handles, passing, rebounding, scoring, defense, IQ.
That’s a lot to ask. I don’t think he has that much time.



