Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2

[Cutter]

Bledsoe is a worthless player and right now I would be happy just getting a 1st round pick in return. He is only elite at a few things

1. Shooting percentage ... nope ... career .444
2. Three point percentage ... nope ... career .330
3. Assists ... nope ... career 4.6/games for PG ???
4. Turnovers ... nope ... 3.4/game since joining the Suns
5. Defense ... nope ... Defensive +/- 0.3 since he's been in Phoenix
6. Leader / communicator ... nope ... he can barely speak complete sentences
7. Be disgruntled about contract negotiations ... yep ... Elite !!
8. Missed games ... yep ... missed 100 games for Phoenix out of 334
9. Bad knees ... yep ... two of them

We will be lucky to get a turd plus a pick back for him.

#6

[Gam]

Yeesh, those of you thinking you'll get Fultz/Jah for Bledsoe/Chriss are going to be sorely dissapointed when this trade does go down.

The guy who Said Tele and a first yest please, but that isn't the best offer you'll get and doesn't match salary.

Monroe/Delly/2018 unprotected and DJ Wilson or Rashard Vaughn for Bledsoe/Chandler would work though.

[Jarlaxle0204]

Yeesh, those of you thinking you'll get Fultz/Jah for Bledsoe/Chriss are going to be sorely dissapointed when this trade does go down.

The guy who Said Tele and a first yest please, but that isn't the best offer you'll get and doesn't match salary.

Monroe/Delly/2018 unprotected and DJ Wilson or Rashard Vaughn for Bledsoe/Chandler would work though.

You make it seem like I expect that to happen. I did preface it with, "pie in the sky". You also left out the Miami 1st and our first from next year which isn't anything to laugh at as I assume we still won't be in the playoffs.

[lilfishi22]

Yeesh, those of you thinking you'll get Fultz/Jah for Bledsoe/Chriss are going to be sorely dissapointed when this trade does go down.

The guy who Said Tele and a first yest please, but that isn't the best offer you'll get and doesn't match salary.

Monroe/Delly/2018 unprotected and DJ Wilson or Rashard Vaughn for Bledsoe/Chandler would work though.

Pass on this package. The 2018 pick will be late lotto at best and Monroe and Delly coming on board does nothing for me especially with Delly's contract. We've got a couple of DJ Wilson's on our team already so he does nothing for us.

[bwgood77]

Yeah, Fultz isn't going anywhere. I mean we wouldn't even include Jackson in a trade for Kyrie. Philly decided instead of taking a guy like Jackson that they would trade a very valuable pick to move up two spots so they could take Fultz. Even with picks, I doubt they want to delay their rebuild any longer by trading top five picks they have made (outside of Okafor) for future picks or older players.

[jredsaz]

its time a deal gets done. come on Ryan - lets move on from Bledsoe already

Benching him at the end of last year and now sending him home to sit and wait for a trade dosent reflect well on the organization from a players peespective. We might end up with more value in a trade if we wait but the longer he is prevented from playing ball the worse it looks.

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[grumpysaddle]

its time a deal gets done. come on Ryan - lets move on from Bledsoe already

Benching him at the end of last year and now sending him home to sit and wait for a trade dosent reflect well on the organization from a players peespective. We might end up with more value in a trade if we wait but the longer he is prevented from playing ball the worse it looks.

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[bwgood77]

its time a deal gets done. come on Ryan - lets move on from Bledsoe already

Benching him at the end of last year and now sending him home to sit and wait for a trade dosent reflect well on the organization from a players peespective. We might end up with more value in a trade if we wait but the longer he is prevented from playing ball the worse it looks.

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That damage is done. I don't think waiting any longer hurts much as I don't think we are players in free agency anyway or really care to be next year.

Players care about themselves...they are not paying too much attention to what is going on with Bledsoe...they are focusing on their own careers and teams right now.

[thamadkant]

Damn... how GOOD is Porzingis...

And to think some here were hesitant to trade for him.. He IS the 3rd Unicorn in the NBA at the moment... Gianis, Durant and Porzingis.

[DirtyDez]

Damn... how GOOD is Porzingis...

And to think some here were hesitant to trade for him.. He IS the 3rd Unicorn in the NBA at the moment... Gianis, Durant and Porzingis.

It would've taken Booker and #4 if I recall. Porzingis and Giannis are have great seasons but Cousins is the October MVP so far.

[jredsaz]

its time a deal gets done. come on Ryan - lets move on from Bledsoe already

Benching him at the end of last year and now sending him home to sit and wait for a trade dosent reflect well on the organization from a players peespective. We might end up with more value in a trade if we wait but the longer he is prevented from playing ball the worse it looks.

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That damage is done. I don't think waiting any longer hurts much as I don't think we are players in free agency anyway or really care to be next year.

Players care about themselves...they are not paying too much attention to what is going on with Bledsoe...they are focusing on their own careers and teams right now.

"The damage is done defense" is crap, b-dub. It can get worse. Punishing a player by sitting him for a month or more will play bad worse with players. One week and trade him is one thing. Letting a man waist part of his prime is a bad look; even if some would consider letting Bledsoe play for a team like the Suns is a waist of his prime in its self.

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[bwgood77]

Benching him at the end of last year and now sending him home to sit and wait for a trade dosent reflect well on the organization from a players peespective. We might end up with more value in a trade if we wait but the longer he is prevented from playing ball the worse it looks.

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That damage is done. I don't think waiting any longer hurts much as I don't think we are players in free agency anyway or really care to be next year.

Players care about themselves...they are not paying too much attention to what is going on with Bledsoe...they are focusing on their own careers and teams right now.

"The damage is done defense" is crap, b-dub. It can get worse. Punishing a player by sitting him for a month or more will play bad worse with players. One week and trade him is one thing. Letting a man waist part of his prime is a bad look; even if some would consider letting Bledsoe play for a team like the Suns is a waist of his prime in its self.

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Memories are short. I don't really care if it "looks bad" and I don't care if we keep him for months. If I thought it mattered in the grand scheme of things I would care. Most players are controlled by their teams under contract. A number become free agents each year. They will go where the money and opportunity is. They are not going to think "They didn't trade Bledsoe for a month so I will take less money/worse opportunity elsewhere."

We are not a major free agent destination in the near future anyway...we are building from within.

[bwgood77]

Damn... how GOOD is Porzingis...

And to think some here were hesitant to trade for him.. He IS the 3rd Unicorn in the NBA at the moment... Gianis, Durant and Porzingis.

It would've taken Booker and #4 if I recall. Porzingis and Giannis are have great seasons but Cousins is the October MVP so far.

Would you have traded both for him? I don't know if I could do that. One or the other but not both.

[lilfishi22]

I'm on the damage is done side of the fence. Sitting him longer than necessary is a bad look but at this point, our reputation is already damaged and the only way to begin the turnaround is to get a good haul from a Bledsoe trade. To be honest, we haven't been a major free agent destination in years, long before even McD took over. Big FA signings are far and few in between with IT being the last big FA signing but nobody expected him to become the player he is today.

[lilfishi22]

Damn... how GOOD is Porzingis...

And to think some here were hesitant to trade for him.. He IS the 3rd Unicorn in the NBA at the moment... Gianis, Durant and Porzingis.

It would've taken Booker and #4 if I recall. Porzingis and Giannis are have great seasons but Cousins is the October MVP so far.

Would you have traded both for him? I don't know if I could do that. One or the other but not both.

No. But I could see why a lot of non-suns fans might.

[skywalker33]

Worst case scenario, we'll take a 1st, Beasley, Juancho, Arthur and Mudiay from Denver for Bledsoe.

So, essentially 4 #1's for Bledsoe ???

[jcsunsfan]

That damage is done. I don't think waiting any longer hurts much as I don't think we are players in free agency anyway or really care to be next year.

Players care about themselves...they are not paying too much attention to what is going on with Bledsoe...they are focusing on their own careers and teams right now.

"The damage is done defense" is crap, b-dub. It can get worse. Punishing a player by sitting him for a month or more will play bad worse with players. One week and trade him is one thing. Letting a man waist part of his prime is a bad look; even if some would consider letting Bledsoe play for a team like the Suns is a waist of his prime in its self.

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Memories are short. I don't really care if it "looks bad" and I don't care if we keep him for months. If I thought it mattered in the grand scheme of things I would care. Most players are controlled by their teams under contract. A number become free agents each year. They will go where the money and opportunity is. They are not going to think "They didn't trade Bledsoe for a month so I will take less money/worse opportunity elsewhere."

We are not a major free agent destination in the near future anyway...we are building from within.

I absolutely believe you are correct BG.


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[jredsaz]

That damage is done. I don't think waiting any longer hurts much as I don't think we are players in free agency anyway or really care to be next year.

Players care about themselves...they are not paying too much attention to what is going on with Bledsoe...they are focusing on their own careers and teams right now.

"The damage is done defense" is crap, b-dub. It can get worse. Punishing a player by sitting him for a month or more will play bad worse with players. One week and trade him is one thing. Letting a man waist part of his prime is a bad look; even if some would consider letting Bledsoe play for a team like the Suns is a waist of his prime in its self.

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Memories are short. I don't really care if it "looks bad" and I don't care if we keep him for months. If I thought it mattered in the grand scheme of things I would care. Most players are controlled by their teams under contract. A number become free agents each year. They will go where the money and opportunity is. They are not going to think "They didn't trade Bledsoe for a month so I will take less money/worse opportunity elsewhere."

We are not a major free agent destination in the near future anyway...we are building from within.

The top players can make that decision and those are the players we hope to one day attract. Server and McD have stated that publicly. And it doesn't matter if we want to sign a free agent next year or in three years. Treating the best player on our team like this matters. The fact that he is repped by clutch matters. A guy like LBJ matters and his opinion matters.

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[LukasBMW]

I'm perfectly OK sitting Bledsoe until the deadline.

Who cares about reputation? We're 2 years away from even being considered by any legit free agents.

We need to avoid Klutch players going forward, acquire only guys with good character, and then take care of our current good character players. That's how we will rebuild our reputation.

[jredsaz]

I'm perfectly OK sitting Bledsoe until the deadline.

Who cares about reputation? We're 2 years away from even being considered by any legit free agents.

We need to avoid Klutch players going forward, acquire only guys with good character, and then take care of our current good character players. That's how we will rebuild our reputation.

Reputation matters because it reflects the current state of the organization, it's operations and culture. Sometimes reputation is inaccurate, not fair. In the case of Sarver, McD and the Suns, the rep is spot on.

Continue operating a franchise like this and our current players will be unhappy in the future, just like Bled is now.

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