Season Speculation, Free Agency & Trade Ideas: Our Johnson is finally working

[WeekapaugGroove]

Wasn’t WOJ buddy’s with McD?

Yeah McD was one of his sources back in his Boston days and I think woj know his dad who's a former media guy. I always thought mcds ties to some media guys and his family sheilded him from some criticism. Hell even now you never here him blamed nationally for this mess.

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[bwgood77]

Wasn’t WOJ buddy’s with McD?

Yeah McD was one of his sources back in his Boston days and I think woj know his dad who's a former media guy. I always thought mcds ties to some media guys and his family sheilded him from some criticism. Hell even now you never here him blamed nationally for this mess.

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It is interesting that the one time Sarver actually was a bit more patient with someone and gave him 5 years, it was McD, who drove us into a ditch, and Sarver fires him, THEN Sarver starts getting more and more people calling him out. Obviously the timing was dumb, and Sarver has always been bad, but it was time to move on from McD, and McD was the reason we are here.

Of course ultimately Sarver made the decision to hire him and stick with him as long as he did but often times the GM takes all the blame.

I mean Prokhorov, for example, hired Billy KIng immediately, and he lasted like 6 years, and you heard constant criticism about him and nothing about Prokhorov...even though he had probably put a lot of pressure on King to make a lot of those moves.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Should point out that I think woj is great at his job and that sarver is a bad owner.

But the 'scoop' guys always have a little agenda it's just the nature of the business in all sports. These guys aren't given info out of blind kindness. It's a quid pro quo deal. The source wants other info in trade, or some positive press at some point down the line, or another very often assistant GM's and coaches leak info and in turn when a job opens up they get mentioned as an up and comer candidate and their name gets out there.

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[Crives]

Wasn’t WOJ buddy’s with McD?

Yeah McD was one of his sources back in his Boston days and I think woj know his dad who's a former media guy. I always thought mcds ties to some media guys and his family sheilded him from some criticism. Hell even now you never here him blamed nationally for this mess.

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It is interesting that the one time Sarver actually was a bit more patient with someone and gave him 5 years, it was McD, who drove us into a ditch, and Sarver fires him, THEN Sarver starts getting more and more people calling him out. Obviously the timing was dumb, and Sarver has always been bad, but it was time to move on from McD, and McD was the reason we are here.

Of course ultimately Sarver made the decision to hire him and stick with him as long as he did but often times the GM takes all the blame.

I mean Prokhorov, for example, hired Billy KIng immediately, and he lasted like 6 years, and you heard constant criticism about him and nothing about Prokhorov...even though he had probably put a lot of pressure on King to make a lot of those moves.

exactly. The increased amount of bad public opinion towards Sarver since McD was sacked has been interesting... he’s been the same Sarver since 2004....

[caltab]

You guys Fret too much

It’s all under control here in Jonestown, you’ll see


Now join me for some koolade

The off-season is going to be the Jonestown massacre for sure. Everyone knows Champ already has the job and Sarver is desperate.

I would be shocked if Sarver didn’t keep Jones...I think our best hope is that they bring in someone over him as President of Ops...I think Grif would be ideal and may actually want the job given his long ties to the team. I also think the Phoenix job has to be somewhat attractive even with Sarver- there are young and talented pieces here, a very high upcoming pick, and some cap space. This team cannot get any worse and I think will improve with a PG and PF. The bar for improvement is so freaking low. If they win 30 games next year it would be a huge turnaround, If they luck out and get Zion they would be that much better. A new GM will be able to take all the credit for turning the franchise around and will be perceived as a genius for doing so.

[bwgood77]

Yeah McD was one of his sources back in his Boston days and I think woj know his dad who's a former media guy. I always thought mcds ties to some media guys and his family sheilded him from some criticism. Hell even now you never here him blamed nationally for this mess.

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It is interesting that the one time Sarver actually was a bit more patient with someone and gave him 5 years, it was McD, who drove us into a ditch, and Sarver fires him, THEN Sarver starts getting more and more people calling him out. Obviously the timing was dumb, and Sarver has always been bad, but it was time to move on from McD, and McD was the reason we are here.

Of course ultimately Sarver made the decision to hire him and stick with him as long as he did but often times the GM takes all the blame.

I mean Prokhorov, for example, hired Billy KIng immediately, and he lasted like 6 years, and you heard constant criticism about him and nothing about Prokhorov...even though he had probably put a lot of pressure on King to make a lot of those moves.

exactly. The increased amount of bad public opinion towards Sarver since McD was sacked has been interesting... he’s been the same Sarver since 2004....

If anything, he's improved. He got rid of or wouldn't pay a lot of good people/players who were here. Once he tore it all down he has to pretty much rely on blind luck, and he gets a lotto win, but had McD.

[Jdiddy701]

Get ready for Kevin McHale guys!


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[WeekapaugGroove]

You guys Fret too much

It’s all under control here in Jonestown, you’ll see


Now join me for some koolade

The off-season is going to be the Jonestown massacre for sure. Everyone knows Champ already has the job and Sarver is desperate.

I would be shocked if Sarver didn’t keep Jones...I think our best hope is that they bring in someone over him as President of Ops...I think Grif would be ideal and may actually want the job given his long ties to the team. I also think the Phoenix job has to be somewhat attractive even with Sarver- there are young and talented pieces here, a very high upcoming pick, and some cap space. This team cannot get any worse and I think will improve with a PG and PF. The bar for improvement is so freaking low. If they win 30 games next year it would be a huge turnaround, If they luck out and get Zion they would be that much better. A new GM will be able to take all the credit for turning the franchise around and will be perceived as a genius for doing so.

I agree I think Jones will be around in some capacity next year. My preferred choice is they bring in an experienced guy to be the POBO and keep Jones as the GM or some title under him. But I could also see them promoting Jones to POBO and hiring someone off another GM staff as the GM under Jones.

I kind of doubt Griffin is the guy though. If that was going to happen I think it probably already would have.

But who knows it's the suns and they do weird ****.

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[lilfishi22]

The off-season is going to be the Jonestown massacre for sure. Everyone knows Champ already has the job and Sarver is desperate.

I would be shocked if Sarver didn’t keep Jones...I think our best hope is that they bring in someone over him as President of Ops...I think Grif would be ideal and may actually want the job given his long ties to the team. I also think the Phoenix job has to be somewhat attractive even with Sarver- there are young and talented pieces here, a very high upcoming pick, and some cap space. This team cannot get any worse and I think will improve with a PG and PF. The bar for improvement is so freaking low. If they win 30 games next year it would be a huge turnaround, If they luck out and get Zion they would be that much better. A new GM will be able to take all the credit for turning the franchise around and will be perceived as a genius for doing so.

I agree I think Jones will be around in some capacity next year. My preferred choice is they bring in an experienced guy to be the POBO and keep Jones as the GM or some title under him. But I could also see them promoting Jones to POBO and hiring someone off another GM staff as the GM under Jones.

I kind of doubt Griffin is the guy though. If that was going to happen I think it probably already would have.

But who knows it's the suns and they do weird ****.

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I'm pretty confident that any GM that doesn't have a job right now and has a halfway decent track record wouldn't be psyched to work for Sarver. I feel like Jones is going to be the guy just because I think Sarver doesn't know basketball and it's hard for him to distinguish between legit GM material and someone that talks a good game but doesn't really know how to follow through.

[Phnxsports]

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[Saberestar]

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[Crives]

It is interesting that the one time Sarver actually was a bit more patient with someone and gave him 5 years, it was McD, who drove us into a ditch, and Sarver fires him, THEN Sarver starts getting more and more people calling him out. Obviously the timing was dumb, and Sarver has always been bad, but it was time to move on from McD, and McD was the reason we are here.

Of course ultimately Sarver made the decision to hire him and stick with him as long as he did but often times the GM takes all the blame.

I mean Prokhorov, for example, hired Billy KIng immediately, and he lasted like 6 years, and you heard constant criticism about him and nothing about Prokhorov...even though he had probably put a lot of pressure on King to make a lot of those moves.

exactly. The increased amount of bad public opinion towards Sarver since McD was sacked has been interesting... he’s been the same Sarver since 2004....

If anything, he's improved. He got rid of or wouldn't pay a lot of good people/players who were here. Once he tore it all down he has to pretty much rely on blind luck, and he gets a lotto win, but had McD.

Yeah hate to say it but I agree with most of Sarvers public moves recently. Most of his recent criticisms are rumors of things without proof. ( remember reports we were not scouting a big college tournament when we had 6 or 7 people there. Then there was criticism he threatened to take suns out of state which was fabricated and later debunked)
1. long term I actually like him talking bridges over SGA. PGs are much more common, will be easier to get one in FA or Trade.
2. He also owned up to McDs terrible player relations and brought in James Jones. It feels like jones has really had an impact this year after settling in. Through all the losing this year we have not seen any public trade demands or major criticisms of the franchise. The tone of the players frustration has been “let’s get better “. How often do teams with 12 wins and 17 game losing streaks have players request out publicly?
3. Getting rid of McD was the right move. It was late but it was the right move. Terrible scouting and player relations. Need to reset gm for hope to draw real FAs
4. Let’s see if he brings in a president of basketball operations and owns up to being to involved in day to day of the team this summer.
5. He got a new arena/ practice facility.

[Edward_Carnby]

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New marketing tactic for the Suns. Get wasted watching the Suns. It’ll make the game easier to watch.

To make Suns games watchables, beer is not enough. You need LSD.

If the tickets are close to the court, maybe James Jones is recruiting scouts.

[BobbieL]

Wasn’t WOJ buddy’s with McD?

Yeah McD was one of his sources back in his Boston days and I think woj know his dad who's a former media guy. I always thought mcds ties to some media guys and his family sheilded him from some criticism. Hell even now you never here him blamed nationally for this mess.

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It is interesting that the one time Sarver actually was a bit more patient with someone and gave him 5 years, it was McD, who drove us into a ditch, and Sarver fires him, THEN Sarver starts getting more and more people calling him out. Obviously the timing was dumb, and Sarver has always been bad, but it was time to move on from McD, and McD was the reason we are here.

Of course ultimately Sarver made the decision to hire him and stick with him as long as he did but often times the GM takes all the blame.

I mean Prokhorov, for example, hired Billy KIng immediately, and he lasted like 6 years, and you heard constant criticism about him and nothing about Prokhorov...even though he had probably put a lot of pressure on King to make a lot of those moves.

It is kind of amazing that Ryan McD is not more to blame. But Sarver ultimately is just a Clown Show Bro owner he does deserve most of the blame.

As for not hiring a GM until now - not sure its that big of a deal in that - Sarver was just buying out guys anyway to save money. And really until that draft pick is known - it wasn't really a part of bigger trade. As long as the guy is in place by early April - should be fine. Just hope its not McHale or Jason Kidd or somebody like that. Griffin would be ideal but I think the guy to call is Trajan Langdon .

[sunskerr]

I remember being this brought up before earlier but I dont remember what people had to say about it:

Let's say we can't improve the roster because of our team's tarnished image and we don't get Zion (both scenarios are pretty likely, I'm sure you guys would agree). Would taking on Gordon Hayward be an appropriate risk? He could probably be acquired for free, or possibly even at a surplus with an asset like a pick attached. No crystal ballers please with regards to his outlook, just want to know if this is the sort of risk that the franchise could take.

[bigfoot]

I remember being this brought up before earlier but I dont remember what people had to say about it:

Let's say we can't improve the roster because of our team's tarnished image and we don't get Zion (both scenarios are pretty likely, I'm sure you guys would agree). Would taking on Gordon Hayward be an appropriate risk? He could probably be acquired for free, or possibly even at a surplus with an asset like a pick attached. No crystal ballers please with regards to his outlook, just want to know if this is the sort of risk that the franchise could take.

It would have to be Tyler johnson and Josh Jackson to make the dollars wrk. So basically we swap wings and lose a PG. Still need a PG and PF. Don't see how this helps at all and probably makes things worse.

[sasquatchBob]

I remember being this brought up before earlier but I dont remember what people had to say about it:

Let's say we can't improve the roster because of our team's tarnished image and we don't get Zion (both scenarios are pretty likely, I'm sure you guys would agree). Would taking on Gordon Hayward be an appropriate risk? He could probably be acquired for free, or possibly even at a surplus with an asset like a pick attached. No crystal ballers please with regards to his outlook, just want to know if this is the sort of risk that the franchise could take.

What's the point though? To pair him with other 4 SF's that we already have?

[Fo-Real]

well, we are a guaranteed bottom 4 team record wise for the draft. There is no way we can catch anyone record wise who is not already bottom 3. Us, Knicks, Cavs, Bulls are bottom 4 for the draft. Hell, the Bulls already have 17 wins, I would be astonished if we won 5 more games.