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2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch - Revised Poll

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Who do you prefer of the following prospects?

Desmond Bane
12
41%
Saddiq Bey
1
3%
RJ Hampton
1
3%
Kira Lewis Jr
4
14%
Tyrese Maxey
2
7%
Aaron Nesmith
2
7%
Isaac Okoro
1
3%
Jalen Smith
2
7%
Tyrell Terry
2
7%
Patrick Williams
2
7%
 
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch 

Post#1301 » by bwgood77 » Fri Sep 4, 2020 3:35 am

Man, if we trade our 1 pick for a vet, Ghost sure will have wasted a lot of time.
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Post#1302 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Sep 4, 2020 3:47 am

bwgood77 wrote:Man, if we trade our 1 pick for a vet, Ghost sure will have wasted a lot of time.


:lol: For sure man! But like there's really so much else to do on here lately anyways. :D
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch 

Post#1303 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Sep 4, 2020 4:25 am

Time to put in some more work a bit. Sharing is caring after all. :wink:
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Post#1304 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Sep 4, 2020 3:08 pm

I'd have no problem trading this pick as part of a package for a really good player. I would not trade this pick for a role player though. I think it's a really really good role player draft and there's value to having that guy on a rookie deal.

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch 

Post#1305 » by Saberestar » Fri Sep 4, 2020 3:46 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:I'd have no problem trading this pick as part of a package for a really good player. I would not trade this pick for a role player though. I think it's a really really good role player draft and there's value to having that guy on a rookie deal.

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I am watching more and more videos about this draft's prospects and they are not exciting at all. Worse draft in years.

Role players...yeah, probably, but some of them will not be even that. It is 2013 all over again.

Sure, that year Antetokoumpo, Oladipo, Gobert and McCollum were there, but there were so many non NBA players in the Top 20 too.

Well, the thing is that I would prefer to trade #10 if we get a solid role player for him.
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Post#1306 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Sep 4, 2020 4:43 pm

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Could these be players that the Suns front office be secretly looking at in potential trade back scenarios? Or in possibly adding a 2nd round pick for value?

Tyshon Alexander
Another player in Phoenix that I was supposed to watch at the Big East Tournament in March was Ty-Shon Alexander from Creighton. I had seen Alexander several times in person, and I actually saw him score 27 points versus number one ranked Gonzaga


So Tyshon Alexander's defense really stood out against actual NBA players!

he showed me just how good he is on the defensive end. He was matched up against NBA players all day and he stood out! At 6’4” with a thick, strong build, Alexander played his butt off, moving his feet, being physical, and contesting shots. I really started to visualize him as a player that would be able to hang his hat on the defensive end while also being a reliable shooter and scorer. He and I talked about him continuing to develop his point guard skills. I believe that if he’s able to develop into a player that can legitimately play two positions in the NBA, he could carve out a really nice NBA career.


Naji Marshall-
From Atlantic City, New Jersey, Marshall is a tough, scrappy, and versatile 6’7” forward. This past season he averaged 16.8 points, 6.3 rebounds, and 4.0 assists per game, leading his Musketeers to 19 wins.


To put it simply, Marshall was terrific all the way around both days I was in Phoenix. He showed a much improved outside shot, which I was hoping to see. He displayed his unparalleled toughness and competitiveness, which were the main reasons I liked him in the first place. During the pickup games, [b]which included a handful of current NBA players, I thought Marshall was the best player on the floor. [/b]His size, versatility, and scrappiness as a wing player should translate to the NBA seamlessly, and with a much improved outside shot, he’s moving up in my book.


Josh Hall
Nearly a year ago, my colleague and former co-worker, Matt McKay, called me to let me know that he was going to an individual workout to see prep school star Josh Hall of Moravian prep in North Carolina. McKay is an experienced former NBA scout and is now the owner and founder of the scouting company Pro Insight. I really trust McKay’s eye for talent, so when he called raving about Hall after watching him work out, I was extremely intrigued. He explained that Hall had tremendous length at 6’9'', with long arms, big hands, athleticism, and a well-rounded, budding skillset. Since then, I have been in touch with Hall's father, Quincy, and watched some film on him. Nevertheless, I can’t say that I knew him that well. I was set to see him at the Iverson Classic — which was canceled, of course. My trip to Phoenix was my first time seeing him in person, and let me tell you, Matt McKay was absolutely right! Hall has a ton of upside! He is a really nice kid as well. He is somewhat raw but does a little bit of everything, including shooting the ball from outside. During the pickup games, he had several impressive slashing moves and dunks and knocked down a couple of three-pointers. I could easily see a team taking him in the second round to invest time and money to develop him. He has tools you just can’t teach, and I personally think he’s worth the risk because if he continues to improve his body and his skill set, we could be looking at a serious player in the coming years


All in all, my trip to Phoenix was a great success! In a long and drawn out pre-draft process, in which we have been limited in our ability to gather new information, I was able to get to know a few players better, providing me more clarity on how they might fit into the NBA.


The next month or two leading up to the 2020 NBA Draft, which is currently scheduled to take place on October 16th, I will look to get in front of more NBA prospects — taking the proper precautions, of course.


Where am I going next and who I am going to see? Stay tuned to find out.


So again, It seems that the Suns might be holding unannounced predraft workouts perhaps? There was a good draft article by " Zona Sports " on Brightside of the suns, Claiming that he could confirm mutual interest?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brightsideofthesun.com/platform/amp/2020/8/28/21404879/phoenix-suns-nba-draft-preview-series-ty-shon-alexander-scouting-report-and-interview

Suns Draft Preview Series: Ty-Shon Alexander Scouting Report and Interview

If the Suns trade for a 2nd round pick, Ty-Shon Alexander is one of the best fits as a running mate alongside Devin Booker in this entire class.

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I can confirm there is some mutual interest between both parties in making this fit happen if the stars align properly on draft night.


Definitely interesting possabilities? :dontknow:
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Post#1307 » by Saberestar » Fri Sep 4, 2020 5:22 pm

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" The Suns are said to also be heavily evaluating the point guard position in this class. It wouldn’t stun me to see them try to necessarily move up to try to get one that they like in the top five”
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Post#1308 » by Saberestar » Fri Sep 4, 2020 5:44 pm

With so many PGs projected to go in the lottery it's difficult to guess who is the favourite for Bower/Jones/Monty.

LaMelo Ball, Haliburton, Hayes, Cole Anthony, Kira Lewis, Tyrese Maxey.... and a few more who are potential lottery picks.
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Post#1309 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Sep 4, 2020 5:45 pm

Saberestar wrote:
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" The Suns are said to also be heavily evaluating the point guard position in this class. It wouldn’t stun me to see them try to necessarily move up to try to get one that they like in the top five”


So, IF you tie that together with the above post mentioning Naji Marshall ( possibly being considered an Oubre replacement) if Oubre is traded along with our 10th pick to move up? Or else what other assets ( that we currently have) would make sense in a trade up scenario?
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Post#1310 » by bwgood77 » Fri Sep 4, 2020 6:06 pm

Saberestar wrote:With so many PGs projected to go in the lottery it's difficult to guess who is the favourite for Bower/Jones/Monty.

LaMelo Ball, Haliburton, Hayes, Cole Anthony, Kira Lewis, Tyrese Maxey.... and a few more who are potential lottery picks.


I'm almost positive they'd love Haliburton. Not sure about the rest. He tends to go with sophomores with lottery picks (Bower) usually, so the only other sophomore PGs would be Lewis and Tre Jones.

I think Vecenie has limited info here though, or anyone for that matter. I think they will keep their plans close to the vest.
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Post#1311 » by Saberestar » Fri Sep 4, 2020 6:17 pm

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" The Suns are said to also be heavily evaluating the point guard position in this class. It wouldn’t stun me to see them try to necessarily move up to try to get one that they like in the top five”


So, IF you tie that together with the above post mentioning Naji Marshall ( possibly being considered an Oubre replacement) if Oubre is traded along with our 10th pick to move up? Or else what other assets ( that we currently have) would make sense in a trade up scenario?

We don't have any 2nd and I think that we definitely need to get older. Our roster is too young so no rookies at all or just one (#10) would be the way to go next season IMO.

Naji Marshall a replacement for Oubre? That would be incredible, he probably is just good for the G-League.

Edit: I didn't answer your question... I think they would trade for Haliburton. Around #6.
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Post#1312 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Fri Sep 4, 2020 6:18 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Saberestar wrote:With so many PGs projected to go in the lottery it's difficult to guess who is the favourite for Bower/Jones/Monty.

LaMelo Ball, Haliburton, Hayes, Cole Anthony, Kira Lewis, Tyrese Maxey.... and a few more who are potential lottery picks.


I'm almost positive they'd love Haliburton. Not sure about the rest. He tends to go with sophomores with lottery picks (Bower) usually, so the only other sophomore PGs would be Lewis and Tre Jones.

I think Vecenie has limited info here though, or anyone for that matter. I think they will keep their plans close to the vest.


I like Haliburton too, but man, it sure would be weird to draft a guy whose ceiling is essentially '19-20 Ricky Rubio with a slightly higher 3FG%.

Though perhaps.... all those three point guard line-ups Monty ran throughout the season weren't due to injuries or roster limitations, but choice. Maybe Monty likes stacking point guards.

I know I said nothing would surprise me, but trading up? That would surprise me. My buddy and I were throwing around theoretical draft trades the other day. We both got a hearty laugh when I proposed trading the #1 for the #10 straight up, and he turned me down.
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Post#1313 » by King4Day » Fri Sep 4, 2020 6:40 pm

I just want to say to Ghost, I appreciate your posts. It keeps things moving and even if some trade ideas aren't realistic, it's fun to talk about. Keep being you. Always look forward to reading your comments.
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Post#1314 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Sep 4, 2020 7:11 pm

King4Day wrote:I just want to say to Ghost, I appreciate your posts. It keeps things moving and even if some trade ideas aren't realistic, it's fun to talk about. Keep being you. Always look forward to reading your comments.


Definitely! Thanks man! :D
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Post#1316 » by SlovenianDragon » Fri Sep 4, 2020 9:06 pm

Even with the first pick in the draft if we wanted a PG no way in heck JJ goes with LaMelo ball. JJ loves character and shooting. Obviously LaMelo cant shoot and im not talking about Lamelos character himself but the Ball cloud that surrounds him.

Just for fun who do u guys think JJ would pick with the number one pick and try not to be biased!
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Post#1317 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sat Sep 5, 2020 12:56 am

SlovenianDragon wrote:Even with the first pick in the draft if we wanted a PG no way in heck JJ goes with LaMelo ball. JJ loves character and shooting. Obviously LaMelo cant shoot and im not talking about Lamelos character himself but the Ball cloud that surrounds him.

Just for fun who do u guys think JJ would pick with the number one pick and try not to be biased!


Honestly, I think that he'd look to try and use it in a trade back deal for a player in the middle to late lottery and additional assets. But if nothing would materialize, Then he'd likely do a smaller trade back to the middle of the lottery and then take either Hayes or Vassell or Toppin. However, IF he was forced to stay at 1, I'd think that he'd most likely take players in this sequence:

1- Ball.
2- Hayes.
3- Toppin.
4- Haliburton.
5- Vassell. :dontknow:
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Post#1318 » by Kerrsed » Sat Sep 5, 2020 1:42 am

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SlovenianDragon wrote:Even with the first pick in the draft if we wanted a PG no way in heck JJ goes with LaMelo ball. JJ loves character and shooting. Obviously LaMelo cant shoot and im not talking about Lamelos character himself but the Ball cloud that surrounds him.

Just for fun who do u guys think JJ would pick with the number one pick and try not to be biased!


Honestly, I think that he'd look to try and use it in a trade back deal for a player in the middle to late lottery and additional assets.


BINGO! If we landed the top pick, i feel like we would be still looking at the guys we are currently looking at. He would totally trade the pick. Top of the draft is mostly SG/SF with Ball and Wiseman sprinkled in there, Sure he could make sure we get whoever we want with the pick as opposed to hoping that said player is still on the board for us later, but why pay a guy like Haliburton #1 pick pay for years to come (Which also increases his max contract) when you can get him later on for millions less? The top pick in the draft will be pulling in $8.5M his first season according to the 2020 rookie pay scale, and the 10th pick will make $3.7M. Thats a HUGE difference. All that while also obtaining another solid player from the team trading you (Or future picks). That pick would be traded easily. I believe NY will be doing whatever they can to make a deal with GS to land Ball with the 2nd pick. They dont have much to send out talent wise, but they do own all their 1sts going forward along with the Clippers this season, as well as the Mav's 1sts in 2021 and 2023.

I think we are really hoping Haliburton falls to us (Despite Bower not taking guys from small schools). If its PG we are looking for, he has probably the best all around skillset at that position.
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Post#1319 » by bwgood77 » Sat Sep 5, 2020 3:41 am

You know who I'm sure would love to get their hands on Toppin...the Rockets. He could be the Amare in the D'Antoni system. D'Antoni wants shooters but he doesn't have that elite finisher on the pick and roll...and of course D'Antoni wants the best offense regardless of defense...always having said, after outscoring people to win "we had the best defense on the floor tonight". Obi could finish, pass and hit 3s to spread the floor too. Would be a great alternative to Tucker at C..as they could rotate...even have Tucker at the 4 sometimes.
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Post#1320 » by nevetsov » Sat Sep 5, 2020 5:29 am

With the 2021 draft class allegedly being loaded with PG talent, do you think it's better to chase a PG prospect at 10 this year or 15 next year? I'm unfamiliar with the prospects next year so I don't know which route would result in the better player.

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