ImageImageImage

The Official Draft Thread

Moderators: bwgood77, lilfishi22, Qwigglez

JMac1
Suns Forum Training Specialist
Posts: 10,032
And1: 4,004
Joined: May 23, 2009

Re: The Official Draft Thread 

Post#1321 » by JMac1 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:23 am

With players outside of Davis so close in talent, I think teams are AFRAID of drafting the wrong player, because they don't know which guy is up!!! We better take advantage of this situation and at least have 2 first round picks!!!
jredsaz
General Manager
Posts: 8,946
And1: 3,180
Joined: May 25, 2012
         

Re: The Official Draft Thread 

Post#1322 » by jredsaz » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:21 am

JMac1 wrote:With players outside of Davis so close in talent, I think teams are AFRAID of drafting the wrong player, because they don't know which guy is up!!! We better take advantage of this situation and at least have 2 first round picks!!!


I agree. What about Gortat for Derrick Williams and #18? Its like getting two picks back. T-Wolves are dying to get an athletic, talented center to play along side Love and Williams has been a disappointment.
DirtyDez
Suns Forum College Scout
Posts: 17,177
And1: 6,908
Joined: Jun 25, 2009
Location: the Arizona desert

Re: The Official Draft Thread 

Post#1323 » by DirtyDez » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:32 am

jredsaz wrote:
JMac1 wrote:With players outside of Davis so close in talent, I think teams are AFRAID of drafting the wrong player, because they don't know which guy is up!!! We better take advantage of this situation and at least have 2 first round picks!!!


I agree. What about Gortat for Derrick Williams and #18? Its like getting two picks back. T-Wolves are dying to get an athletic, talented center to play along side Love and Williams has been a disappointment.


I dare you to post this on the trade board. :lol:
fromthetop321 wrote:I got Lebron number 1, he is also leading defensive player of the year. Curry's game still reminds me of Jeremy Lin to much.
User avatar
bwgood77
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 98,343
And1: 61,076
Joined: Feb 06, 2009
Location: Austin
Contact:
   

Re: The Official Draft Thread 

Post#1324 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:02 am

jredsaz wrote:
JMac1 wrote:With players outside of Davis so close in talent, I think teams are AFRAID of drafting the wrong player, because they don't know which guy is up!!! We better take advantage of this situation and at least have 2 first round picks!!!


I agree. What about Gortat for Derrick Williams and #18? Its like getting two picks back. T-Wolves are dying to get an athletic, talented center to play along side Love and Williams has been a disappointment.


Not a big fan of Pekovic? That guy looked like the real deal before he got injured.
jredsaz
General Manager
Posts: 8,946
And1: 3,180
Joined: May 25, 2012
         

Re: The Official Draft Thread 

Post#1325 » by jredsaz » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:48 am

DirtyDez wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
JMac1 wrote:With players outside of Davis so close in talent, I think teams are AFRAID of drafting the wrong player, because they don't know which guy is up!!! We better take advantage of this situation and at least have 2 first round picks!!!


I agree. What about Gortat for Derrick Williams and #18? Its like getting two picks back. T-Wolves are dying to get an athletic, talented center to play along side Love and Williams has been a disappointment.


I dare you to post this on the trade board. :lol:


Lo. Stop hating. Derrick Williams can put up 10 and 5 for us for years to come.
Revived
RealGM
Posts: 37,477
And1: 22,249
Joined: Feb 17, 2011

Re: The Official Draft Thread 

Post#1326 » by Revived » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:29 am

Kerrsed wrote:Image

Interesting, as Melo and Nicholson are late 1st round picks and bigs, while the rest of the guys are all projected to go un-drafted. If we are looking at a late 1st big, i really hope they take a look at O'Quinn.

Reminds me of Faried/Lou.
Revived
RealGM
Posts: 37,477
And1: 22,249
Joined: Feb 17, 2011

Re: The Official Draft Thread 

Post#1327 » by Revived » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:32 am

Kerrsed wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
Meanwhile, the Kings might be interested in moving their pick for a big man if Connecticut center Andre Drummond doesn’t drop to them at No. 5, says a source. “They have enough perimeter guys,” the source said. “In fact, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if they saw what Marcus Thornton or Tyreke Evans, and maybe their pick, brought them. Probably not enough, but they really want another big to place alongside (DeMarcus) Cousins.” FOXSportsOhio


http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/draft

Gortat and #13 for Evan's and #5?


I dont know if i would do that or not.

Im pretty sure Drummond will be there. I dont see a team in the top 4 taking him. Hornest will take Davis, thats for sure. Noobcats already have a project big in Biyombo, who plays both PF/C. He has C skills in a PF body. They need to address other issues. Wizards have Nene' locked up long term. No need for Andre there. Cleveland is interesting. They have a good young PF/C in Thompson and still have Varejao. They could look at moving Varejao and drafting Drummond, but the safe bet is they dont, and end up going after their star PG's best friend, Barnes. Cleveland already had one superstar leave them, so they will do whatever it takes to show Irving that they are committed to him and will do whatever it takes to keep him happy.

Funny enough, i have the Kings passing on Drummond as well. They go after a SF, then start offering Evans up for trade, killing 2 birds with 1 stone. Blazers draft Drummond at #6.

Now back to Gortat/#13 for Evans/#5, i just dont see why we would do it. We move up 8 places to draft who exactly? Lillard? Sullinger? Lamb? I'd pass. Give me Rivers @ #13, then go after a mid to late 1st to snatch up a player like Harkless, Taylor, or O'Quinn. Evans stock has massively dropped, and with the league knowing that the Kings will most likely end up trading him, his value is even lower.

But then again, a Evans/Rivers backcourt could be interesting.

Evans/Rivers/Gee/Morris/Lopez

Can't the Bobcats draft Drummond to play alongside Biyombo? Nene is a PF, Washington can use Drummond as a C. Varejou is really injury prone and has a big contract so they can look to move him and replace with Drummond.

I'm not saying that is likely to happen but just cause a team has one legit big man doesn't mean they are set for good with their front court. Anything can happen.

And I don't want Evans here. He's a combo guard that can't shoot....its the worst position to be in.
User avatar
Kerrsed
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 29,876
And1: 16,578
Joined: Mar 31, 2009
Location: Land of the Internet Memes
Contact:
     

Re: The Official Draft Thread 

Post#1328 » by Kerrsed » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:53 am

sunsfan88 wrote:Can't the Bobcats draft Drummond to play alongside Biyombo? Nene is a PF, Washington can use Drummond as a C. Varejou is really injury prone and has a big contract so they can look to move him and replace with Drummond.


Yes they could take Drummond next to Biyombo, but what i am saying is that Biyombo is a very raw player that is going to need alot of time to develop and reach his potential. Then you have Drummond, who is a very raw player that is going to need alot of time to develop.

Its just very rare that a team takes on 2 players that are raw project bigs. Very rare. Now im not saying it wont happen, but its very unlikely when they have so many other areas that they also need to address.

And Nene is a C.
Its #DUMPSTERFIRE SEASON! #TeamTRAINWRECK -KERRSED- The Mod, The Myth, The Legend
Image
User avatar
Kerrsed
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 29,876
And1: 16,578
Joined: Mar 31, 2009
Location: Land of the Internet Memes
Contact:
     

Re: The Official Draft Thread 

Post#1329 » by Kerrsed » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:58 am

sunsfan88 wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:Image

Interesting, as Melo and Nicholson are late 1st round picks and bigs, while the rest of the guys are all projected to go un-drafted. If we are looking at a late 1st big, i really hope they take a look at O'Quinn.

Reminds me of Faried/Lou.


A very large and muscular Farried. :D


ImageImage

Image

Image

Image
Its #DUMPSTERFIRE SEASON! #TeamTRAINWRECK -KERRSED- The Mod, The Myth, The Legend
Image
Revived
RealGM
Posts: 37,477
And1: 22,249
Joined: Feb 17, 2011

Re: The Official Draft Thread 

Post#1330 » by Revived » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:13 am

Anyone else think the Suns should offer #13 to Denver for Wilson Chandler?

A solid young, defensive SF on a VERY good contract.

He may be expendable since they already have Gallo.
User avatar
Kerrsed
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 29,876
And1: 16,578
Joined: Mar 31, 2009
Location: Land of the Internet Memes
Contact:
     

Re: The Official Draft Thread 

Post#1331 » by Kerrsed » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:19 am

Report: New Orleans Hornets ‘seriously considering’ Austin Rivers in NBA Draft

Could the New Orleans Hornets be the team giving a “lottery promise” to Austin Rivers?

The Hornets are “seriously considering” taking the former Duke guard Rivers with the No. 10 pick in the upcoming 2012 NBA Draft, The Times Picayune’s John Reid reported Monday. From the report:

When the New Orleans Hornets compiled their background check on 19-year-old draft prospect Austin Rivers, they didn’t need much help from their scouts. Hornets Coach Monty Williams supplied everything needed because he’s been a close family friend of Boston Coach Doc Rivers since 1994 and has known his son, Austin, since he was a toddler.

But they are seriously considering Austin Rivers, a 6-foot-4 guard who declared for the draft after playing one season at Duke.

Last Friday, Yahoo’s Marc J. Spears reported that a team may have given Rivers a “promise” to be drafted late in the lottery after he didn’t work out at the NBA’s pre-draft combine last Thursday. From Spears’ report:

An NBA source told Yahoo! Sports that Rivers has a promise late in the draft lottery. The Portland Trail Blazers, Toronto Raptors, Houston Rockets, Cleveland Cavaliers, Phoenix Suns, Washington Wizards and New Orleans Hornets plan to work out Rivers.

Reid reported last week that the Hornets were also “seriously considering” North Carolina’s Tyler Zeller with the No. 10 pick.

Rivers averaged 15.5 points and 3.4 rebounds per game in his only season at Duke.

http://tracking.si.com/2012/06/12/austi ... nba-draft/

Im'a be pissed if the Hornets end up with Rivers/Gordon/Davis. :evil:
Its #DUMPSTERFIRE SEASON! #TeamTRAINWRECK -KERRSED- The Mod, The Myth, The Legend
Image
User avatar
TASTIC
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 18,445
And1: 2,439
Joined: May 17, 2004
Location: New Zealand
   

Re: The Official Draft Thread 

Post#1332 » by TASTIC » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:22 am

Kerrsed wrote:
sunsfan88 wrote:Can't the Bobcats draft Drummond to play alongside Biyombo? Nene is a PF, Washington can use Drummond as a C. Varejou is really injury prone and has a big contract so they can look to move him and replace with Drummond.


Yes they could take Drummond next to Biyombo, but what i am saying is that Biyombo is a very raw player that is going to need alot of time to develop and reach his potential. Then you have Drummond, who is a very raw player that is going to need alot of time to develop.

Its just very rare that a team takes on 2 players that are raw project bigs. Very rare. Now im not saying it wont happen, but its very unlikely when they have so many other areas that they also need to address.

And Nene is a C.

ha ha ha....Krause you magnificent bastard...
Image
RunDogGun
No Sham, More Cam
Posts: 17,891
And1: 5,437
Joined: Jun 27, 2009
Location: Beyond the Sun

Re: The Official Draft Thread 

Post#1333 » by RunDogGun » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:28 am

And how did that work out for CHI? :lol:
Ryu
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,479
And1: 614
Joined: Dec 09, 2011
   

Re: The Official Draft Thread 

Post#1334 » by Ryu » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:33 am

sunsfan88 wrote:Anyone else think the Suns should offer #13 to Denver for Wilson Chandler?

A solid young, defensive SF on a VERY good contract.

He may be expendable since they already have Gallo.

I like Wilson Chandler but there`s no freakin` way I`d give this year`s first round pick for him. Just terrible idea.
User avatar
Kerrsed
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 29,876
And1: 16,578
Joined: Mar 31, 2009
Location: Land of the Internet Memes
Contact:
     

Re: The Official Draft Thread 

Post#1335 » by Kerrsed » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:57 am

Ryu wrote:
sunsfan88 wrote:Anyone else think the Suns should offer #13 to Denver for Wilson Chandler?

A solid young, defensive SF on a VERY good contract.

He may be expendable since they already have Gallo.

I like Wilson Chandler but there`s no freakin` way I`d give this year`s first round pick for him. Just terrible idea.


I agree 100%. I like him, but wouldnt trade the pick for him.
Its #DUMPSTERFIRE SEASON! #TeamTRAINWRECK -KERRSED- The Mod, The Myth, The Legend
Image
User avatar
ATTL
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 16,624
And1: 8,483
Joined: Aug 24, 2003
Location: Moms basement
   

Re: The Official Draft Thread 

Post#1336 » by ATTL » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:07 am

TASTIC wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:
sunsfan88 wrote:Can't the Bobcats draft Drummond to play alongside Biyombo? Nene is a PF, Washington can use Drummond as a C. Varejou is really injury prone and has a big contract so they can look to move him and replace with Drummond.


Yes they could take Drummond next to Biyombo, but what i am saying is that Biyombo is a very raw player that is going to need alot of time to develop and reach his potential. Then you have Drummond, who is a very raw player that is going to need alot of time to develop.

Its just very rare that a team takes on 2 players that are raw project bigs. Very rare. Now im not saying it wont happen, but its very unlikely when they have so many other areas that they also need to address.

And Nene is a C.

ha ha ha....Krause you magnificent bastard...
Image


I hear they're supposed to be the next shaq and KG
DirtyDez
Suns Forum College Scout
Posts: 17,177
And1: 6,908
Joined: Jun 25, 2009
Location: the Arizona desert

Re: The Official Draft Thread 

Post#1337 » by DirtyDez » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:54 am

sunsfan88 wrote:Anyone else think the Suns should offer #13 to Denver for Wilson Chandler?

A solid young, defensive SF on a VERY good contract.

He may be expendable since they already have Gallo.


An average player making lots of money for 3+ years? Unfortunately that has been a pattern of the Suns for the past 2 years so it wouldn't shock me.
fromthetop321 wrote:I got Lebron number 1, he is also leading defensive player of the year. Curry's game still reminds me of Jeremy Lin to much.
Revived
RealGM
Posts: 37,477
And1: 22,249
Joined: Feb 17, 2011

Re: The Official Draft Thread 

Post#1338 » by Revived » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:40 am

I think Chandler has a solid future in the NBA...he's still young.

There may be someone who is available at #13 that will have brighter future than Chandler but not there's many of em.

Just my opinion.
JMac1
Suns Forum Training Specialist
Posts: 10,032
And1: 4,004
Joined: May 23, 2009

Re: The Official Draft Thread 

Post#1339 » by JMac1 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:39 pm

sunsfan88 wrote:I think Chandler has a solid future in the NBA...he's still young.

There may be someone who is available at #13 that will have brighter future than Chandler but not there's many of em.

Just my opinion.



Chandler is a role player. I would rather TRY to draft someone who is more than a role player and fail, then trade for someone who is what he is, a role player. PLUS, if we trade the 13th pic, we better be getting a better pick in the transaction.
JMac1
Suns Forum Training Specialist
Posts: 10,032
And1: 4,004
Joined: May 23, 2009

Re: The Official Draft Thread 

Post#1340 » by JMac1 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:50 pm

jredsaz wrote:
JMac1 wrote:With players outside of Davis so close in talent, I think teams are AFRAID of drafting the wrong player, because they don't know which guy is up!!! We better take advantage of this situation and at least have 2 first round picks!!!


I agree. What about Gortat for Derrick Williams and #18? Its like getting two picks back. T-Wolves are dying to get an athletic, talented center to play along side Love and Williams has been a disappointment.



I'm not that hot on keeping Gortat for the rebuild, so I might be down with that. I have to see more of Williams though. I am in the camp of getting Beasley, drafting Rivers/Lamb/Ross, letting Nash go, trade Gortat for another pick (best available) and let Brooks play the PG.

Return to Phoenix Suns