The TJ Warren Thread!

[bwgood77]

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That's very strange. He's still having pain? Does that mean they want him to come back even if he is experiencing pain? Is this what has been happening with Booker? I thought they would want things to be completely healed and pain free before coming back, especially in a season like this.

One month out with a sore ankle it is a long time, if he is feeling pain yet the problem is really big.

He probably needs a different treatment or even surgery.

I was reading somewhere else it was a bone bruise and Covington missed 7 weeks with same injury. Not sure why they would want him to play if it's painful though, unless somehow it's healed yet will still be painful for awhile. But if he is in pain on the court it likely wouldn't be a good thing anyway.

[Damkac]

"TJ Warren don't make the team better" - Yeah, right.
With him Suns may be terrible but without him they are the worst team of all time.

Oh but he is bad defender, don't pass, has bad hairstyle, he don't talk much so he must be selfish and everybody surely hates him. Look, Oubre makes fun dunk! Yeah. Resign him and trade Warren for a bigmac.

[sunsbg]

"TJ Warren don't make the team better" - Yeah, right.
With him Suns may be terrible but without him they are the worst team of all time.

Oh but he is bad defender, don't pass, has bad hairstyle, he don't talk much so he must be selfish and everybody surely hates him. Look, Oubre makes fun dunk! Yeah. Resign him and trade Warren for a bigmac.

Complete BS as he's been mentioned in trades for a good PG only. I always have looked at him as a great 6th man, 4th option on a good team.

[Saberestar]

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[PackSuns]

Great seeing TJ’s jersey being honored tonight! Here is a quote from Julius Hodge:

Quick story: I remember walking into the gym April 15th after TJ’s freshman year and he was on the bicycle in a full sweat. Fast forward 2 hours later? He was still there.

COMPETITOR!
Hardest working WOLF I’ve ever seen!

Go Suns!!

[Saberestar]

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[Crives]

TJ needs to finish his career as a Sun with multiple 6th man awards

Can’t wait to see what part of his game he develops this summer.

[RunDogGun]

We need him back in the starting line up. He is our best outside threat, and he is a great scorer. TJ's three point shot opens up room for Ayton to operate. Hopefully Johnson's recent game is something he can build on, and there will be a smooth transition when those two play together for the first time as Suns.

[Crives]

We need him back in the starting line up. He is our best outside threat, and he is a great scorer. TJ's three point shot opens up room for Ayton to operate. Hopefully Johnson's recent game is something he can build on, and there will be a smooth transition when those two play together for the first time as Suns.

This year yes. Next yeast 6th man and we get a pf that can rebound/shoot

[RunDogGun]

We need him back in the starting line up. He is our best outside threat, and he is a great scorer. TJ's three point shot opens up room for Ayton to operate. Hopefully Johnson's recent game is something he can build on, and there will be a smooth transition when those two play together for the first time as Suns.

This year yes. Next yeast 6th man and we get a pf that can rebound/shoot

I think he is fine in the starting position at sf. He will still open the middle with his shot. He adds something to his game every year. It would be a shame to push him to the bench next year. Again, he is our best three point shooter, and a great scorer.

If we keep Oubre, I think he would be a good sixth man.

[Crives]

We need him back in the starting line up. He is our best outside threat, and he is a great scorer. TJ's three point shot opens up room for Ayton to operate. Hopefully Johnson's recent game is something he can build on, and there will be a smooth transition when those two play together for the first time as Suns.

This year yes. Next yeast 6th man and we get a pf that can rebound/shoot

I think he is fine in the starting position at sf. He will still open the middle with his shot. He adds something to his game every year. It would be a shame to push him to the bench next year. Again, he is our best three point shooter, and a great scorer.

If we keep Oubre, I think he would be a good sixth man.

I could see that. I think I would prefer a more elite defender at sf/pg to compliment booker on the perimeter which would move TJ to 6th man.

[RunDogGun]

This year yes. Next yeast 6th man and we get a pf that can rebound/shoot

I think he is fine in the starting position at sf. He will still open the middle with his shot. He adds something to his game every year. It would be a shame to push him to the bench next year. Again, he is our best three point shooter, and a great scorer.

If we keep Oubre, I think he would be a good sixth man.

I could see that. I think I would prefer a more elite defender at sf/pg to compliment booker on the perimeter which would move TJ to 6th man.

It would depend on who we got at the 1 and 4 positions. We would be dumb to get a weak defender at either or both positions, for both Booker and Ayton are not up to speed defensively. To move TJ to the bench, I feel both the point and power positions will have to be good three point shooters, because Jackson and Bridges are not.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I think he is fine in the starting position at sf. He will still open the middle with his shot. He adds something to his game every year. It would be a shame to push him to the bench next year. Again, he is our best three point shooter, and a great scorer.

If we keep Oubre, I think he would be a good sixth man.

I could see that. I think I would prefer a more elite defender at sf/pg to compliment booker on the perimeter which would move TJ to 6th man.

It would depend on who we got at the 1 and 4 positions. We would be dumb to get a weak defender at either or both positions, for both Booker and Ayton are not up to speed defensively. To move TJ to the bench, I feel both the point and power positions will have to be good three point shooters, because Jackson and Bridges are not.

Bridges is up to 35% from 3 on 5 attempts per game for the season which is better than Booker this year. And before a couple of bad games in February had been trending up on that department. All indicators point to him being a good 3pt shooter as he adjusts to the NBA range.

To me Bridges a better fit in the starting line up because of his D and the fact that he's a lower usage kind of player. With Warren he's such a efficient scorer and that's by far his best skill that coming off the bench and being the main bucket getter when Booker and Ayton are off the floor seems like a better use of his talent.

While sure it would be nice if Warren was a better passer frankly in a lot of scenarios him taking a shot is better than him passing to someone who is less efficient so I'm fine with how he plays. His D is my only complaint about his game.

[Qwigglez]

My problem with Warren is he disappears in the fourth quarter. Doesn’t call for the ball or anything. Reminds me a lot of Shawn Marion in that regard to be honest. He’s a good fourth banana though, and I think Booker / Ayton can be solid 1-2option with the correct PG (Jrue I will will this into existence Holiday). Bridges is the glue guy and hopefully becomes our Khris Middleton or even Otto Porter.

[RunDogGun]

Every summer TJ improves his game. I think he works hard defensively, its just a bit tougher moving to PF and continually guarding guys that size and weight.

Honestly, I would like to see an improvement in rebounding, but if history continues with him, I could see a bigger step to develop another skill, which could easily be defense.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

My problem with Warren is he disappears in the fourth quarter. Doesn’t call for the ball or anything. Reminds me a lot of Shawn Marion in that regard to be honest. He’s a good fourth banana though, and I think Booker / Ayton can be solid 1-2option with the correct PG (Jrue I will will this into existence Holiday). Bridges is the glue guy and hopefully becomes our Khris Middleton or even Otto Porter.

TJ needs plays run for him, because he's not a creator. He is an elite secondary scorer. I don't regard that as a negative. All TJ needs is a coach demanding that the ball be put in his hands, and plays drawn up to get it there. He disappears in the fourth primarily because that's when SuperBook removes his suit and glasses.

I'd be much more confident relying on a system that puts the ball in TJ's and Ayton's in the fourth and running Book off ball than treating Book as James Harden down the stretch. None of these guys is a point guard. Of them, only Ayton really has great passing instincts - and in his case, coach needs to force-feed the ball back in his hands after he passes out. GL getting Oubre, Jackson and Booker to defer...

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Every summer TJ improves his game. I think he works hard defensively, its just a bit tougher moving to PF and continually guarding guys that size and weight.

Honestly, I would like to see an improvement in rebounding, but if history continues with him, I could see a bigger step to develop another skill, which could easily be defense.

I think TJ's skill-set is basically complete. I think he'll improve marginally as a passer and defender, but that's about it. And I'm perfectly happy with that. TJ is great. Probably our best player this season overall.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Every summer TJ improves his game. I think he works hard defensively, its just a bit tougher moving to PF and continually guarding guys that size and weight.

Honestly, I would like to see an improvement in rebounding, but if history continues with him, I could see a bigger step to develop another skill, which could easily be defense.

While some fundamental improvement can improve rebounding a little that's a skill that it really seems like guys are either good at or not. I think there's far more of a natural feel for it than people may realize. It's the skill set that is most easily predicted when guys make the jump from college to pros.

Now defensively he could make some major improvements by breaking his awful ball watching habit. It's something lots of guys on this team need to stop doing.

[RunDogGun]

Every summer TJ improves his game. I think he works hard defensively, its just a bit tougher moving to PF and continually guarding guys that size and weight.

Honestly, I would like to see an improvement in rebounding, but if history continues with him, I could see a bigger step to develop another skill, which could easily be defense.

I think TJ's skill-set is basically complete. I think he'll improve marginally as a passer and defender, but that's about it. And I'm perfectly happy with that. TJ is great. Probably our best player this season overall.

I just dont know though. Adding that three point shot changed his position in the offensive set. He is very set when he gets a pass at the three point line. In the past, he was quickly eyeing the defense to see where he could drive and get a shot off. I think he still has room to grow, and every year he seems to improve aspects of that skill set. I think adding solid boxing out, and anticipating the offensive player's movements, TJ could improve both defense and rebounding.

[RunDogGun]

It would be great if all our guys worked together in the offseason, and it would be incredible if Warren took a lead role in those workouts.