2014 Official FA Thread 2

[NaturalBuns]

Winning a title with the Clown would be the same as getting an airtight palanquin with internal heating, sat tv and a bar, go to Nepal, make a bunch of locals carry you up to the top while you enjoy your luxury ride without as much as peeking outside and after that pat yourself on the chest and brag that you're the king of the world and you singlehandedly conquered Mount Everest.
I'm sorry, but anyone who wants that kind of title is not a sports fan. That's not what sports is about.

But it is...
Baseball yanks,sox,dodgers buy players
Basketball lakers,boston and now Miami buys players
Football is definitely won through drafting
Soccer your bought by clubs.. Super teams

Don't really follow hockey until playoffs but it's the same I bet.

[SunsFanSSOL]

Winning a title with the Clown would be the same as getting an airtight palanquin with internal heating, sat tv and a bar, go to Nepal, make a bunch of locals carry you up to the top while you enjoy your luxury ride without as much as peeking outside and after that pat yourself on the chest and brag that you're the king of the world and you singlehandedly conquered Mount Everest.
I'm sorry, but anyone who wants that kind of title is not a sports fan. That's not what sports is about.

2010 called, they want their LeBron hate back.

[lilfishi22]

Winning a title with the Clown would be the same as getting an airtight palanquin with internal heating, sat tv and a bar, go to Nepal, make a bunch of locals carry you up to the top while you enjoy your luxury ride without as much as peeking outside and after that pat yourself on the chest and brag that you're the king of the world and you singlehandedly conquered Mount Everest.
I'm sorry, but anyone who wants that kind of title is not a sports fan. That's not what sports is about.

I'm sorry but this line of thought is ludicrous. By your logic, you could say you aren't conquering Mount Everest unless you do it alone. So everyone who had ever made to the top had a tainted accomplishment because they had help.

Only a fairy tale ending would make you happy it seems

[TASTIC]

Winning a title with the Clown would be the same as getting an airtight palanquin with internal heating, sat tv and a bar, go to Nepal, make a bunch of locals carry you up to the top while you enjoy your luxury ride without as much as peeking outside and after that pat yourself on the chest and brag that you're the king of the world and you singlehandedly conquered Mount Everest.
I'm sorry, but anyone who wants that kind of title is not a sports fan. That's not what sports is about.

Get off your high-horse mate, because we want our team to improve and try and sign the BEST player in the game, we're not sports fans? Pffft.

I hated him and didn't want him prior to Phoenix, but I loved him Raja when he was here.

LeBron has his flaws but he gets so much grief compared to other NBA players/megastars - he literally can't win - a lot of that is self-inflicted, but seriously how does he come out of this looking like a good guy?

The Decision killed his career from being a personally 'likable' player - the way he screwed CLE over on national TV and made it entirely about him with his 'taking my talents' bit.

I can get past all that if he brings a title to the Suns, because I AM a sports fan and you look past the media hype and self-indulgence that these athletes crave because they play for your team and try and WIN for your team.

Your analogy for climbing Everest is totally off too - sure the Heat won in '06 with prime Wade and older Shaq, but LeBron took them to these two titles. If anything HE was the mule carrying Wade's corpse and the shell of Bosh up the mountain to the promised land.

This season Wade had a 'luxury ride' as you put it, so LeBron possibly jumping ship to get more help on a young team - your team - would be a bad thing?

You make it sound like him coming to Phoenix would be him 'climbing aboard' the Suns championship title run, which we haven't yet begun to sniff - so how would he - ie the guy getting us over the hump - be coasting?

[sunstrooper]

I only expressed my view as a sports fan and you compare it with the organization's POV.
Unfortunately you're right that the major amount of money doesn't come from sports fans and FOs adjust. The only 2 times i had the opportunity to attend an NBA game (both in DC), around 80% to 90% of the people there were clearly not in the arena for the basketball. Some were to show new clothes/sneakers/girlfriends/boyfriends and the majority just to have dinner with something to occupy their view.
I just wrotethat with the idea that the people posting here are from the type that care about the sport itself, and not a small portion of them indeed are.

[thamadkant]

Winning a title with the Clown would be the same as getting an airtight palanquin with internal heating, sat tv and a bar, go to Nepal, make a bunch of locals carry you up to the top while you enjoy your luxury ride without as much as peeking outside and after that pat yourself on the chest and brag that you're the king of the world and you singlehandedly conquered Mount Everest.
I'm sorry, but anyone who wants that kind of title is not a sports fan. That's not what sports is about.

Would you NOT celebrate or be happy if the Suns win the championship with Lebron James?

Sports is about competition.

Getting Lebron isn't like using a god mode cheat code in a video game….

Its like the player going out of the straight path and finding a hidden treasure chest or beating a difficult bonus boss and obtaining a weapon/armor that helps your journey… (sorry for the video game metaphor.)

[sunstrooper]

I totally understand gaming analogy being die hard gamer myself.
So:
1. Having all defenders taking 3 steps back instead of defending you, while you take 6 steps with the ball in your hands, dunk AND get a +1 with noone within 3-4 feet from you IS a god mode cheat code.
2. Hurling defenders to the ground with your offhand (in the rare case someone tries to defend you) and doing step 1 without being called for an offensive foul IS a god mode cheat code.
3. On defense, slapping and hitting opponents without being called and even getting your opponent being called because YOU fouled him IS a god mode cheat code.
4. Receiving EVERY out of bounds call because you whined at the refs IS a god mode cheat code.
And finally, getting the opponent team frustrated and absolutely unable to play and execute due to all of the above is THE ULTIMATE GOD MODE CHEAT CODE.
When you have 2 ro 3 "players" like this all of the above increases manyfold.

[Revived]

I don't get it. So we shouldn't LeBron cause he's too too good? It would make winning a title too easy?

Is that the reason why?

[sunskerr]

Idiots...all idiots...I'm sorry but it's the sad truth if you're against the best basketball player in the world joining this team.

The front office works so they can get the personnel the team needs to succeed. The players work so the team can succeed too.

Lebron is not cheat codes or any of those silly zingers you people come up with. He is the best basketball player in the world and he has worked hard to be that good. Our front office has worked hard to put us into a position so we can at least have that chance of getting Lebron or another good player. If you have the opportunity, you gotta go for it. And if you fail, at least you can say you laid it all out there.

[Flying Colors]

If McD pulls this off, he should receive a 10 year contract extension, a raise, and a spot in the ring of honor during the season opener. He'd took a team that was suppose to begin its tenure in the bottom for few years, to a team arguably the favorite to come out of the west. all in the span of a year

"This"? There seems to be so many rumors, could you be a bit more specific? Lebron deal? Lebron/Melo?

adding lebron, adding melo as well as lebrom would be pretty cool too i suppose but just getting the former would pretty damn great

[sunstrooper]

The rules in sports exist so that only the specific sport-related skills define who is better. Calling a guy, who not only does not abide by any rules, but his opponents are being punished for playing by the rules against him, the best basketball player in the world is...i have no words.
It is the same as if you put someone with a chainsaw and an automatic gun in a boxing ring with the permition to shoot and dismember opponents, while they are allowed only to hit with boxing gloves, the best boxer in the world.

[pidi]

tastic, still here? everything fine??

[Saberestar]

The Suns' first full day of free-agency negotiations covered many bases, including the early stages of following up on their desire to retain three of last season's starters — restricted free agents Eric Bledsoe and P.J. Tucker, perhaps before they can sign an offer sheet with another team on July 10, and unrestricted free agent Channing Frye.

A good sign for Bledsoe's return perhaps flashed Monday night when an in-season photo of Bledsoe biting his Suns uniform during a game was posted on his Twitter and Instagram accounts. It was deleted minutes later.

Talks with Bledsoe's agent, Rich Paul, will be kept separate from inquiries regarding James, who is Bledsoe's friend and is also represented by Paul. The links still could help the Suns at least get a conversation about their grandiose idea of adding James and another free-agency star, like Carmelo Anthony or Chris Bosh, while keeping Bledsoe and Goran Dragic.

Frye, Bledsoe and Tucker and/or their agents talked to the Suns in the first 24 hours of free agency.
The Suns would have the ability to match any offer sheet that Bledsoe, arguably the top restricted free agent, or Tucker sign on July 10 or later.

The Suns also have made contact with or been contacted by at least 12 other free agents. That includes unrestricted free agents Pau Gasol, Trevor Ariza, Luol Deng, Spencer Hawes, Danny Granger, Ed Davis, Marvin Williams and Josh McRoberts and restricted free agents Gordon Hayward, Chandler Parsons, Isaiah Thomas and Patrick Patterson. That does not necessarily mean the Suns are interested in all of them.

Of those players, only Gasol (33) and Granger (31) are in their 30s and only Patterson, Davis and Granger were not regular starters. Hayward (24), whose early Utah years were developed by then-Jazz assistant and present Suns coach Jeff Hornacek, is the youngest at 24, but Utah intends to match any offer. Davis, Parsons, Patterson and Thomas are all 25.

Thomas (20.3 points and 6.3 assists per game) and Gasol (17.4 points and 9.7 rebounds per game) have eye-popping numbers but their value and style or role might not fit into the Suns' system or roster. Big men like Hawes and McRoberts could shoot the 3-pointer in the Suns' system while Ariza is a wing who has been prolific on 3s in his career and is coming off a career-best 40.7 percent 3-point-shooting season for Washington.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /11959299/

[hands11]

I'm surprised there has been no new at all from Okafor

Any info ?

[thamadkant]

Would be ecstatic with...
Love, James, Hawes, McRoberts, Allen acquisition lol


For Love.. Might have to give up both Morris twins, Dragic (unfortunately), Green... Add suns 2015 pick, wolves 2015 pick. I wouldn't give up any more picks.


Martin is packaged with Love.

The lineup.

C: Hawes / Plumlee / Len
PF: Love / McRoberts / Plumlee
SF: James / Tucker / Warren
SG: Martin / Allen / Goodwin
PG: Bledsoe / Goodwin / Ennis
Then in 2015, Bogdanovic comes in!!

That's an incredible team for Lebron, Love and Bledsoe since all the pieces around them fit .

/rosterbation

[Saberestar]

Josh McRoberts drawn interest from Charlotte, Dallas, Clev, Miami, Clippers, Knicks, Portland, Phoenix, Spurs and Lakers, source told ESPN.

Interesting player. Great passer, good shooter and decent defender...he can be a good addition if we fail in other options.

[lilfishi22]

McBob is hardly my favourite player but he would be a decent replacement if Frye left

[Saberestar]

I'm surprised there has been no new at all from Okafor

Any info ?

Actually, he was never a Sun. He was a contract, that is all.
He was severely injured all year, and our team paid less money because his injury's assurance.

[bwgood77]

Josh McRoberts drawn interest from Charlotte, Dallas, Clev, Miami, Clippers, Knicks, Portland, Phoenix, Spurs and Lakers, source told ESPN.

Interesting player. Great passer, good shooter and decent defender...he can be a good addition if we fail in other options.

Sure, depending on who the Blazers go with, I'm ok with getting him or Hawes in replace of Frye. Hawes must be willing to take the mid level if he is really interested in Portland and is probably the best of the three. McRoberts and Frye about the same. This is all assuming we don't get Love of course. Or Frye. I'm thinking the Warriors may be about to pull the trigger on Thompson in the Love deal since they spend their mid level on Livingston instead of Frye or Hawes, unless they can use their TPE on July 10th to try and get one.

If GS passes on the Love deal though, and signs one of them as their stretch 4/5, that could be a big win for us in a potential Love trade later.

[hands11]

I'm surprised there has been no new at all from Okafor

Any info ?

Actually, he was never a Sun. He was a contract, that is all.
He was severely injured all year, and our team paid less money because his injury's assurance.

When I get to work I'm calling the police to put out an APB.

Not a peep about him except rumors about MIA and a few other teams that might be interested.

Its shocking actually. This is FA. You figure one way or another someone would say something.

No updates at all. He was only supposed to be out until like Jan last year. Then he missed the entire year. But you would expect to hear something.

Very strange.