Free agency and trade ideas: Which wings do we go after this summer?

[BobbieL]

The league will never ban 1+1 type deals, they love all the media attention they get talking about player movement. Plus if something like that was in place it would greatly decrease the chances kahwi would stay up in Toronto. Locking himself in there long term is a big risk from a basketball standpoint when you look at the age of a bunch of their core guys and considering it's hard to attract FAs once those contracts expire. But just looking at next season I think there's a practical basketball argument for him to stay because he'll have as good of a chance of winning there as any place else.

I'm not sure he cares much about legacy but staying even just one more year would make him a legend up there forever.

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It would be wrong to ban 1+1 deals. Let players play where they want to play for low long

[bwgood77]

The league will never ban 1+1 type deals, they love all the media attention they get talking about player movement. Plus if something like that was in place it would greatly decrease the chances kahwi would stay up in Toronto. Locking himself in there long term is a big risk from a basketball standpoint when you look at the age of a bunch of their core guys and considering it's hard to attract FAs once those contracts expire. But just looking at next season I think there's a practical basketball argument for him to stay because he'll have as good of a chance of winning there as any place else.

I'm not sure he cares much about legacy but staying even just one more year would make him a legend up there forever.

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It would be wrong to ban 1+1 deals. Let players play where they want to play for low long

Even if the owners wanted to, the players association would never agree to something like that anyway.

[lilfishi22]

The league will never ban 1+1 type deals, they love all the media attention they get talking about player movement. Plus if something like that was in place it would greatly decrease the chances kahwi would stay up in Toronto. Locking himself in there long term is a big risk from a basketball standpoint when you look at the age of a bunch of their core guys and considering it's hard to attract FAs once those contracts expire. But just looking at next season I think there's a practical basketball argument for him to stay because he'll have as good of a chance of winning there as any place else.

I'm not sure he cares much about legacy but staying even just one more year would make him a legend up there forever.

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You could easily argue he already is

Which player in Toronto history has ever (truly) lead them to an NBA Finals?

[alamin330]

I think the league needs to push to ban 1 year contracts to players who have made the All-star list sometime over the past 2 seasons in the next CBA (Making it the past 2 seasons in case a player has a major injury and decided to sit for that year). Players that do that are pretty much holding the future of their current franchise hostage. Its bad because teams are afraid to make certain moves because they dont want to be stuck with guys if that star player leaves, and can help the GM plan what contracts to give to who for how long based upon how long that "Star" player is signed (Think of Lebron in Cleveland). It also jacks up the teams salary cap situation as the player is then able to keep getting a new max contract from his team after every season, which ends up costing the team more and more and more after every max contract as opposed to if he were to just sign a 2 or 3 year deal. Its bad for the teams and whats bad for the teams is bad for the league.

I think Kawhi stays in Toronto. He is the King of the North. I think its kinda rare (Outside of Lebron), where a team trades for a star and there is an immediate impact that lands them into the Finals. Usually there is a bit of growing pains, but the transition into Toronto has been seamless. Kawhi has no personality, but thats fine for Toronto, they love him just how he is and are ok with it, where if Kawhi were to go to say LA or NY, i dont think that would fly and he would be under more pressure. The Raptors are a great fit. I also dont think they let Lowery leave in FA. After all these years they final make it to the big dance, you dont break it up right away, just ask Dallas how that turns out. Lowery has been there through the thick and the thin, dont think they will do him dirty like that.

I wouldn’t ban 1 year deals or 1+1 but maybe do something like a team can only use that deal for a certain number of players at a time in a given season or can only offer it to the same player once in 5 years or whatever number of years. Or just make it so that players who have made an all star or all nba team within the past 3 years or so can only accept that type of deal once for the team they last made that honor.

[Saberestar]

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[Hesh]

The day Monty was introduced as the new coach, he indicated that the team is looking to re-sign Oubre. I think he let this one slip and it was unintentional lol, but everyone expects it to happen anyway, and at least we hear it from someone on the team.

https://youtu.be/ZoEmNKzBrSY?t=390

On another note, people have noticed that he didn't bring up Josh or TJ but he mentioned them both once in this interview, albeit at the end of his list of names. Doesn't really mean anything, though.

"Those 2 have the ability by themselves to carry every night (he's talking about Ayton and Booker), along with Mikal, and hopefully re-signing Kelly, who can be a huge part of our program going forward. Josh is a highly talented, highly skilled player. So we have some people, TJ who can score the ball, that can compliment Devin and Deandre."

[Sunsdeuce]

I think the league needs to push to ban 1 year contracts to players who have made the All-star list sometime over the past 2 seasons in the next CBA (Making it the past 2 seasons in case a player has a major injury and decided to sit for that year). Players that do that are pretty much holding the future of their current franchise hostage. Its bad because teams are afraid to make certain moves because they dont want to be stuck with guys if that star player leaves, and can help the GM plan what contracts to give to who for how long based upon how long that "Star" player is signed (Think of Lebron in Cleveland). It also jacks up the teams salary cap situation as the player is then able to keep getting a new max contract from his team after every season, which ends up costing the team more and more and more after every max contract as opposed to if he were to just sign a 2 or 3 year deal. Its bad for the teams and whats bad for the teams is bad for the league.

I think Kawhi stays in Toronto. He is the King of the North. I think its kinda rare (Outside of Lebron), where a team trades for a star and there is an immediate impact that lands them into the Finals. Usually there is a bit of growing pains, but the transition into Toronto has been seamless. Kawhi has no personality, but thats fine for Toronto, they love him just how he is and are ok with it, where if Kawhi were to go to say LA or NY, i dont think that would fly and he would be under more pressure. The Raptors are a great fit. I also dont think they let Lowery leave in FA. After all these years they final make it to the big dance, you dont break it up right away, just ask Dallas how that turns out. Lowery has been there through the thick and the thin, dont think they will do him dirty like that.

I’ll do you one better. NBA needs to implement franchise tags. NFL has free agency (and contracts) correct, NBAs (contracts) model sucks! Players dictate too much now in the NBA and in return the on the court product is the worst I have witnessed in over 2 decades.
(And viewership has gone down over the last three years in the NBA, while the “dying” NFL continues to see increases in viewership. Mark Cuban is living on false hope the NFL is dying while the exact opposite is true, NBA is is doing well but it’s not where it should be at this point and it can be argued the NBA is on course for a slow death, but that’s a different argument)

NBA wants to fix things, take control back from the players. Let the fans know all teams have a chance and things can change very quickly if you are a fan of a bad team.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I think the league needs to push to ban 1 year contracts to players who have made the All-star list sometime over the past 2 seasons in the next CBA (Making it the past 2 seasons in case a player has a major injury and decided to sit for that year). Players that do that are pretty much holding the future of their current franchise hostage. Its bad because teams are afraid to make certain moves because they dont want to be stuck with guys if that star player leaves, and can help the GM plan what contracts to give to who for how long based upon how long that "Star" player is signed (Think of Lebron in Cleveland). It also jacks up the teams salary cap situation as the player is then able to keep getting a new max contract from his team after every season, which ends up costing the team more and more and more after every max contract as opposed to if he were to just sign a 2 or 3 year deal. Its bad for the teams and whats bad for the teams is bad for the league.

I think Kawhi stays in Toronto. He is the King of the North. I think its kinda rare (Outside of Lebron), where a team trades for a star and there is an immediate impact that lands them into the Finals. Usually there is a bit of growing pains, but the transition into Toronto has been seamless. Kawhi has no personality, but thats fine for Toronto, they love him just how he is and are ok with it, where if Kawhi were to go to say LA or NY, i dont think that would fly and he would be under more pressure. The Raptors are a great fit. I also dont think they let Lowery leave in FA. After all these years they final make it to the big dance, you dont break it up right away, just ask Dallas how that turns out. Lowery has been there through the thick and the thin, dont think they will do him dirty like that.

I’ll do you one better. NBA needs to implement franchise tags. NFL has free agency (and contracts) correct, NBAs (contracts) model sucks! Players dictate too much now in the NBA and in return the on the court product is the worst I have witnessed in over 2 decades.
(And viewership has gone down over the last three years in the NBA, while the “dying” NFL continues to see increases in viewership. Mark Cuban is living on false hope the NFL is dying while the exact opposite is true, NBA is is doing well but it’s not where it should be at this point and it can be argued the NBA is on course for a slow death, but that’s a different argument)

NBA wants to fix things, take control back from the players. Let the fans know all teams have a chance and things can change very quickly if you are a fan of a bad team.

It's not the franchise tag that the NFL does right. Its having a hard cap with no max contracts. If the NBA actually wanted competitive balance that's what they would change. But I just don't see that ever getting approved by the player union.

The way the NBA is set up the teams already have a ton of control on players. Rookie contracts run 4 years then a player is a restricted FA and pretty much everyone takes that first extension so it's typically 8-9 years before a player is ever really free to hit the market. In the NFL rookie contracts are either 4-5 years depending on what round you're picked them you can only really franchise a guy 2 times so in a way it's less than the typical span of control for a guy coming into the NBA.

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[BobbieL]

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My guess - OKC would trade Westbrook to the Lakers if they wanted him.

[BobbieL]

The day Monty was introduced as the new coach, he indicated that the team is looking to re-sign Oubre. I think he let this one slip and it was unintentional lol, but everyone expects it to happen anyway, and at least we hear it from someone on the team.

https://youtu.be/ZoEmNKzBrSY?t=390

On another note, people have noticed that he didn't bring up Josh or TJ but he mentioned them both once in this interview, albeit at the end of his list of names. Doesn't really mean anything, though.

"Those 2 have the ability by themselves to carry every night (he's talking about Ayton and Booker), along with Mikal, and hopefully re-signing Kelly, who can be a huge part of our program going forward. Josh is a highly talented, highly skilled player. So we have some people, TJ who can score the ball, that can compliment Devin and Deandre."

Not saying that Warren still won't be traded but the line about TJ can score the ball is why I have him third on the list of players/draft picks to be moved to get better. I think the 6th pick is option 1, Josh is option 2. Possibly Tyler. But I think Josh and the 6th pick will be used to get the team better. Warrens ability to score cannot be discounted as a 6th man.

[WeekapaugGroove]

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My guess - OKC would trade Westbrook to the Lakers if they wanted him.

Should probably be mentioned it's not possible to trade for both Russ and AD with LeBron.

Now Russ is an interesting target if they can't land AD. They could absolutely throw together a package that OKC would have to seriously consider. Russ and LeBron don't seem like a great fit though.

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[BobbieL]

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My guess - OKC would trade Westbrook to the Lakers if they wanted him.

Should probably be mentioned it's not possible to trade for both Russ and AD with LeBron.

Now Russ is an interesting target if they can't land AD. They could absolutely throw together a package that OKC would have to seriously consider. Russ and LeBron don't seem like a great fit though.

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Oh right.. plus I am not sure the Lakers have enough for both AD and Russ to trade to OKC and New Orleans

but I can see Jeanie Linda and Rob being enamored with RW even if not the best fit. Its about LA, Showtime, etc.

[darmani]

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[Years90Suns]

Haven't read much here for the last month or so, but I have read the last couple of pages. Not much talk about our movements. May be not too many news lately.

My idea with the draft would be to get the best possible player, but mainly to get a guard or a shooting guard. We have Oubre (theoretically), Warren and JJ for SFs. We have Bridges and Melton and Okobo.
Then I would use trades and FA to get us a solid PF, with Homles backing up Ayton once more.

What about Mirotic for that starting job here at PF?

[Kerrsed]

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Not a good sign that AD and Griffin are meeting the day after his Power Dinner with Lebron and Westbrook.

[lilfishi22]

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My guess - OKC would trade Westbrook to the Lakers if they wanted him.

Should probably be mentioned it's not possible to trade for both Russ and AD with LeBron.

Now Russ is an interesting target if they can't land AD. They could absolutely throw together a package that OKC would have to seriously consider. Russ and LeBron don't seem like a great fit though.

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They aren't but boy would it be a fun train wreck to watch. Two guys waving each other off on the court while the guy being waved off does nothing but stand around - oh it makes me giddy


Ahh a man can dream

[WeekapaugGroove]

My guess - OKC would trade Westbrook to the Lakers if they wanted him.

Should probably be mentioned it's not possible to trade for both Russ and AD with LeBron.

Now Russ is an interesting target if they can't land AD. They could absolutely throw together a package that OKC would have to seriously consider. Russ and LeBron don't seem like a great fit though.

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They aren't but boy would it be a fun train wreck to watch. Two guys waving each other off on the court while the guy being waved off does nothing but stand around - oh it makes me giddy


Ahh a man can dream

Oh the passive agressive looks they would give each other would be absolutely awesome.

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[BobbieL]

Should probably be mentioned it's not possible to trade for both Russ and AD with LeBron.

Now Russ is an interesting target if they can't land AD. They could absolutely throw together a package that OKC would have to seriously consider. Russ and LeBron don't seem like a great fit though.

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They aren't but boy would it be a fun train wreck to watch. Two guys waving each other off on the court while the guy being waved off does nothing but stand around - oh it makes me giddy


Ahh a man can dream

Oh the passive agressive looks they would give each other would be absolutely awesome.

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I can actually see the Laker brass being for this trade if they strike out on Durant Kawhi Kyrie etc. Granted, it really doesn’t seem like a good fit but with the Lakers and that Front Office, they might be willing to make a splash. I would love to see it happen actually.

[sunsbum]

yall dumb, social media has gotten more prevalent these days, the NBA is a brotherhood, all youre doing is paying these dudes for a click.

[Saberestar]

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