Offseason Thread 6: The Not So Mexican Stand-off Continues

aIvin adams · Post #1361 » by **aIvin adams** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:53 pm

no offense intended to Jdiddy, but...

he DID just recently draft both Chris Bosh and Eric Bledsoe with the second pick of his fantasy draft.

so..

he MIGHT be confused about the details.

Nando88 · Post #1362 » by **Nando88** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:00 pm

I'm not trying to be negative but didn't Jdiddy say Nash was talking with our FO at the arena last week too?

Where do you get your info dude? Honest question

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Jdiddy701 · Post #1363 » by **Jdiddy701** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:18 pm

Hey guys I wish I can say who it's coming from.. Person is legit and have yet to hear wrong things from this person. I would say Traxxe is always the right person to get the information from but I do trust this person and have been told with other things before before its hit the news. If it's wrong, I am sorry I would rather say what I hear than not say anything.

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aIvin adams · Post #1364 » by **aIvin adams** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:26 pm

Jdiddy701 wrote:Hey guys I wish I can say who it's coming from.. Person is legit and have yet to hear wrong things from this person. I would say Traxxe is always the right person to get the information from but I do trust this person and have been told with other things before before its hit the news. If it's wrong, I am sorry I would rather say what I hear than not say anything.

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np and thx it's better to have some info than no info, even if it's wrong info.

otherwise what would we rant about? blake griffin and creationism? zzzzz

WTFsunsFTW · Post #1365 » by **WTFsunsFTW** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:31 pm

If you have sources can you please get screened by the mods so skeptics don't try to burn you at the stake every time you post speculation ?

JDLAW · Post #1366 » by **JDLAW** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:41 pm

Jdiddy701 wrote:Hey guys I wish I can say who it's coming from.. Person is legit and have yet to hear wrong things from this person. I would say Traxxe is always the right person to get the information from but I do trust this person and have been told with other things before before its hit the news. If it's wrong, I am sorry I would rather say what I hear than not say anything.

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I suspect that the sides are discussing all options on 4 or 5 years and numbers that go with them. This is probably why there are differences in information. Do not necessarily think either is wrong or right at this point.

aIvin adams · Post #1367 » by **aIvin adams** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:42 pm

my sources say the mods are not real people.

:reporter:

they are elaborate bots programmed by Howard Mass and differentiated through an reduplicative algorithm that incorporates the speech patterns of their respective realgm boards.

King4Day · Post #1368 » by **King4Day** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:48 pm

aIvin adams wrote:
Jdiddy701 wrote:Hey guys I wish I can say who it's coming from.. Person is legit and have yet to hear wrong things from this person. I would say Traxxe is always the right person to get the information from but I do trust this person and have been told with other things before before its hit the news. If it's wrong, I am sorry I would rather say what I hear than not say anything.

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np and thx it's better to have some info than no info, even if it's wrong info.

otherwise what would we rant about? blake griffin and creationism? zzzzz

Totally. I enjoyed getting my hopes up during the LeBron rumors. Had it not been for them, we'd never really know what was going on (even if it wasn't accurate, we'd never know anyway)

King4Day · Post #1369 » by **King4Day** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:50 pm

WTFsunsFTW wrote:If you have sources can you please get screened by the mods so skeptics don't try to burn you at the stake every time you post speculation ?

How does that work? They have to prove to the mods they are legit?
Is that even possible without some breaking news days before it becomes public?

I remember that guy a few months ago who, maybe 3 days prior, broke the news about Kidd leaving for Milwaukee. I believe the thread was shutdown and people bashed him. 3 days later everyone wants to be his friend :lol:

King4Day · Post #1370 » by **King4Day** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:52 pm

JDLAW wrote:
Jdiddy701 wrote:Hey guys I wish I can say who it's coming from.. Person is legit and have yet to hear wrong things from this person. I would say Traxxe is always the right person to get the information from but I do trust this person and have been told with other things before before its hit the news. If it's wrong, I am sorry I would rather say what I hear than not say anything.

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I suspect that the sides are discussing all options on 4 or 5 years and numbers that go with them. This is probably why there are differences in information. Do not necessarily think either is wrong or right at this point.

Agreed. I get the feeling that the numbers are done. It'll just depend on which contract EB would prefer (4 or 5 years).
Small things like options and stuff.

I bet it won't be a declining scale if he demands a player option for the final year. We'd rather force him to leave more on the table if he were to leave.

YouTube · Post #1371 » by **Kerrsed** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:57 pm

aIvin adams wrote::reporter:
my sources say the mods are not real people.

they are elaborate bots programmed by Howard Mass and differentiated through an reduplicative algorithm that incorporates the speech patterns of their respective realgm boards.

You are 100% correct. As a bot programmed by Howard Mass, i shall make this the "Thread of the Week".

Also... 010010110110010001 Termination orders are now enacted to silence all alerted posters.

Phystic · Post #1372 » by **Phystic** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:10 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Phystic wrote:If he can get his attitude in check and be a team player I have no problems with keeping him on this team. I like his well rounded game and bulldog attitude. But if he has even a slight chip on his shoulder then ship his ass out. If we get him on the contract we want him on I think he could land us some really good assets.

With few teams needing point guards, who would you ship him out for though? We'd have to get good assets in return. I was thinking last night about what teams could be trading partners and I just don't see it if we want to compete now.

Bucks, Kings, Lakers and possibly Detroit, Houston or Atlanta. The best deals out of those would probably be Sessions/Stauskas, expiring contracts plus a pick. With Atlanta, Teague/Millsap but that would be crazy with Millsap becoming a FA. No one on the other teams that they'd trade for him interests me.

And that Sacramento deal isn't equal value and would make us worse. Houston, Beverly, a pick and Ariza for Tucker and Bledsoe....nah, but Beverly would provide the D we would miss...still not nearly enough though.

Many people wanting to trade him don't go through the teams and find a deal that make real sense. Indy has nothing but could use him.

We can't trade him until mid season though if they finalize a deal anyway.

Well it's hard as a fan to come up with trades because we clearly don't know what other Franchises are looking for or planning. But based on talent alone Bledsoe should be able to net a positive return, especially if he is on a reasonable contract.

Milwaukee, Minnesota, Detroit obviously have been talked about. Chicago may be interested as a potential backup plan for Rose or a tandem guard lineup. Something around Taj Gibson potentially. Or Brooklynn if they are desperate to unload Lopez( I know I know).

Not sure I haven't given it much though.

jcsunsfan · Post #1373 » by **jcsunsfan** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:22 pm

WTFsunsFTW wrote:If you have sources can you please get screened by the mods so skeptics don't try to burn you at the stake every time you post speculation ?

I am not sure why this is necessary. Proof will be demonstrated in time. Meanwhile, it doesn't jibe to me. But I am not going to rip on him.

ShawnBronald · Post #1374 » by **ShawnBronald** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:23 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/514872462430183424[/tweet]

About damn time. Seriously, why wait until now? They should have been meeting with Phoenix during the entire Summer.

King4Day · Post #1375 » by **King4Day** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:23 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/514872462430183424[/tweet]

Well with that, there's no way they make the trip unless he's signing something.

SunsFanSSOL · Post #1376 » by **SunsFanSSOL** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:24 pm

The bread has been broken.

SunsFanSSOL · Post #1377 » by **SunsFanSSOL** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:25 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/514873222291267584[/tweet]

King4Day · Post #1378 » by **King4Day** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:26 pm

ShawnBronald wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/514872462430183424[/tweet]

About damn time. Seriously, why wait until now? They should have been meeting with Phoenix during the entire Summer.

I imagine all the talking was done over the phone.
Who pays for that flight you think?

jcsunsfan · Post #1379 » by **jcsunsfan** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:26 pm

Phystic wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Phystic wrote:If he can get his attitude in check and be a team player I have no problems with keeping him on this team. I like his well rounded game and bulldog attitude. But if he has even a slight chip on his shoulder then ship his ass out. If we get him on the contract we want him on I think he could land us some really good assets.

With few teams needing point guards, who would you ship him out for though? We'd have to get good assets in return. I was thinking last night about what teams could be trading partners and I just don't see it if we want to compete now.

Bucks, Kings, Lakers and possibly Detroit, Houston or Atlanta. The best deals out of those would probably be Sessions/Stauskas, expiring contracts plus a pick. With Atlanta, Teague/Millsap but that would be crazy with Millsap becoming a FA. No one on the other teams that they'd trade for him interests me.

And that Sacramento deal isn't equal value and would make us worse. Houston, Beverly, a pick and Ariza for Tucker and Bledsoe....nah, but Beverly would provide the D we would miss...still not nearly enough though.

Many people wanting to trade him don't go through the teams and find a deal that make real sense. Indy has nothing but could use him.

We can't trade him until mid season though if they finalize a deal anyway.

Well it's hard as a fan to come up with trades because we clearly don't know what other Franchises are looking for or planning. But based on talent alone Bledsoe should be able to net a positive return, especially if he is on a reasonable contract.

Milwaukee, Minnesota, Detroit obviously have been talked about. Chicago may be interested as a potential backup plan for Rose or a tandem guard lineup. Something around Taj Gibson potentially. Or Brooklynn if they are desperate to unload Lopez( I know I know).

Not sure I haven't given it much though.

I always find it easier to evaluate trades if I think about it as trading CONTRACTS and not players. The player himself is only one of the factors.

jcsunsfan · Post #1380 » by **jcsunsfan** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:27 pm

DarkHawk wrote:
ShawnBronald wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/514872462430183424[/tweet]

About damn time. Seriously, why wait until now? They should have been meeting with Phoenix during the entire Summer.

I imagine all the talking was done over the phone.
Who pays for that flight you think?

Yeah, I suppose. But he is free to negotiate whenever he wants.