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Re: Trade Deadline Countdown - Markieff? Teletovic? Tucker? Goodwin? 20 minutes and counting... 

Post#1361 » by bwgood77 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:23 pm

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Unless Kieff's attitude single-handedly destroys the team upon arrival, I expect it to transfer this year. Hard to see a scenario where they get top 9 unless they somehow win the lottery.


Have you watched us?

WE SUCK... esp at home. We need to tank, keep the pick, fire Ernie Grunfeld/Randy Wittman and start a new.

I'm tired of this GM...13 YEARS and we haven't even gone to a conference final or won 50 games. HOW DOES HE HAVE A JOB. Ted Leonsis is so disappointing.


But this draft sucks outside of top 2. Are Wall and Beal going to be happy playing for a tanking team or want to get the hell out of there as soon as possible?

You guys already have a great backcourt, Oubre and Porter. Who were you hoping to get in the draft late lottery?
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Re: Trade Discussion 

Post#1362 » by SideSwipe » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:23 pm

Decent trade for Kieff, getting mid-first for him along with flexible expirings is a win. PHX will now be set for major offseason moves. PHX will not take all three picks. The fact that Tele and Tucker are still here suggests that they will batten down the hatches, get Bled back grow Book and swing for the fences in a pre-draft deal or two including our picks as bait (and maybe Knight), then use the $30 million in FA to cover the gaps. and go for the playoffs next year. Break out the Durant banners everyone, because I think he just may be our target for better or worse....

Bled/Knight/Tucker/Durant/Chandler with a serious bench including Book, Warren, Len It will never happen, but the FO may push for it, then settle for a Love trade of some kind.
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Re: Trade Deadline Countdown - Markieff? Teletovic? Tucker? Goodwin? 20 minutes and counting... 

Post#1363 » by FAH1223 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:26 pm

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But this draft sucks outside of top 2. Are Wall and Beal going to be happy playing for a tanking team or want to get the hell out of there as soon as possible?

You guys already have a great backcourt, Oubre and Porter. Who were you hoping to get in the draft late lottery?


This draft may suck compared to last year but I'm of the mindset to accumulate depth and assets.

Grunfeld punts on the draft too much because he drafts BUSTS like in 2011 when we had 2 picks and drafted the two BUSTS in the top 20!!!

Wall is locked up. Beal is a RFA and we can match any offer. They're young and need a new coach BADLY. A new system.

We need to tank so Leonsis CAN FINALLY make changes. He also owns the Capitals. He cleaned house and now look at them!
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Re: Trade Deadline Countdown - Markieff? Teletovic? Tucker? Goodwin? 20 minutes and counting... 

Post#1364 » by Qwigglez » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:27 pm

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Kieff hopes and dreams smashed.

anyways, thanks PHX board for being awesome. Truly had a great time. Good luck to you for the rest of your season.



You're gonna thank us for being awesome and then at the end of it say good luck? As if to win good luck? GTFO here with that and good riddance!


:lol: :wink:

Seriously though, it will be interesting to see how the Pistons mesh the rest of the year. I hope Tobias helps you guys out.
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Re: Trade Discussion 

Post#1365 » by oddity » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:28 pm

Mr Puddles wrote:TIMOTHE LUWAWU!!!! I've been preaching us drafting this guy for a while now and he's currently projected to go top 15.

Long SF with excellent perimeter D, good 3 point shooter with crazy athleticism.


I really like Luwawu, if not for his game (mostly for his game) than for his god damn INCREDIBLE name. So much fun just to say.
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Re: Trade Deadline Countdown - Markieff? Teletovic? Tucker? Goodwin? 20 minutes and counting... 

Post#1366 » by bwgood77 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:28 pm

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But this draft sucks outside of top 2. Are Wall and Beal going to be happy playing for a tanking team or want to get the hell out of there as soon as possible?

You guys already have a great backcourt, Oubre and Porter. Who were you hoping to get in the draft late lottery?


This draft may suck compared to last year but I'm of the mindset to accumulate depth and assets.

Grunfeld punts on the draft too much because he drafts BUSTS like in 2011 when we had 2 picks and drafted the two BUSTS in the top 20!!!

Wall is locked up. Beal is a RFA and we can match any offer. They're young and need a new coach BADLY. A new system.

We need to tank so Leonsis CAN FINALLY make changes. He also owns the Capitals. He cleaned house and now look at them!


Well I think we both can't stand our owners. How many years do your coach and GM have left on their contracts? Who do you want as coach?
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Re: Trade Discussion 

Post#1367 » by thamadkant » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:30 pm

There is absolutely almost no chance Durant considers a team that just finished bottom 4 and arguably the worst team in the NBA in 2016 so far.

Knight and Bledsoe are also not a championship nor a contender back court. Both are undersized and are primarily scorers... 2 PGs yet Suns are amongst the worst assists team in the league. The ball rotates between them 2 most of the time.
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Re: Trade Deadline Countdown - Markieff? Teletovic? Tucker? Goodwin? 20 minutes and counting... 

Post#1368 » by FAH1223 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:31 pm

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Well I think we both can't stand our owners. How many years do your coach and GM have left on their contracts? Who do you want as coach?


I care more about the front office. Give me Troy Weaver from OKC. Or a scout from a contending team with a track record.

Coach? I want a young coach with a system who's open minded. No retreads.
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Re: Trade Deadline Countdown - Markieff? Teletovic? Tucker? Goodwin? 20 minutes and counting... 

Post#1369 » by dremill24 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:32 pm

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oddity wrote:I think this pick is really solid for Kieff. We get to basically refund that 13th pick we used on Markieff this year, and if Ivan Rabb or Buddy Hield fall to us, that would be a huge win. This also makes us worse short term to keep this tank treading on forward. I'm more than a little disappointed we didn't push for Oubre though, as I love his potential as a 3-and-D guy.

This was a very, very solid trade for the Wizards too, as they were able to turn a pick and very ehh players into a solid cog in a team. As long as Morris keeps his head straight, they're looking at a starting caliber 4 that can create and pass; probably a boon in their backcourt-heavy lineup. I actually thought that the Suns and Wizards were very similar, so this trade makes more than just a little sense. Also, Washington gets to spruce up their nest a little bit for a Durant bid, which is much, much needed after how the season's been going for them.

Overall, I'm happy. This is a good trade for McD, and a good trade for the Suns. We managed to get Kieff off of our hands while dumping salary AND getting a late lotto pick, so that's all I could really ask for. Now to just cross our collective fingers and pray to the draft gods that Buddy Hield drops to 10 or so (I'm freaking in love with this kid's game) :D



I'd prefer we draft a big guy, but a shooter like Hield next to Booker would be a luxury pick we could take. Booker would have to be a guy we see at the 3 some for that to happen though imo.


I mean right now I'm still in the mindset that we take the best player available. Hield is a 2, which is the most loaded position we've got, but Buddy's also so far beyond anybody else (other than mayyybe Rabb) at that range that I say he's a must-take. His work ethic and head for the game is also great, and he's a perfect example of the benefits of staying in college to develop your game. There's no better scorer other than maybe Ingram in the entire draft, and I can just keep going oooonn and ooooonnnn. Too many positives to let him go


I agree. The Suns are in no position to draft for need. You take the BPA and figure it out. Especially when you're talking about wings in today's NBA. I know neither Booker nor Hield is a prototype SF but there aren't a ton of those out there anyway. And the big ones that You're worried about them guarding often slide up to 'PF' anyway, and even if they don't..nobody has true SFs who are 6'10" Like Durant, not just you.

Having too many wings is almost impossible. Most lineups you look at during the course of a game feature 3 wings, a PG, and a big. So if we have one cornerstone in Booker, there's really 2 other spots on the floor with a good amount of minutes available for someone like Hield.

I don't watch much college ball, so I don't know what draft position he would be good value at,but I have to imagine He's a pretty dynamic scorer based on his numbers, reputation, and scouting reports. So if he's good value at #5 or #12 or whatever, it would be foolish to pass on him just because he plays a similar position to Booker.
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Re: Trade Discussion 

Post#1370 » by LukasBMW » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:33 pm

We have zero chance at KD.

KD is loyal and oldschool. If he leaves OKC it will be for GSW. LAC and WAS are the only two other options and I think both of those are longshots.
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Re: Trade Discussion 

Post#1371 » by Mr Puddles » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:39 pm

oddity wrote:
Mr Puddles wrote:TIMOTHE LUWAWU!!!! I've been preaching us drafting this guy for a while now and he's currently projected to go top 15.

Long SF with excellent perimeter D, good 3 point shooter with crazy athleticism.


I really like Luwawu, if not for his game (mostly for his game) than for his god damn INCREDIBLE name. So much fun just to say.


Actually that's what I dislike about him the most. We haven't even drafted the guy yet and I'm already cringing at thought of Steve Albert jokes about his name. "And now entering the game is a young rookie from France 'Tim Lawoowoo', isn't that fun to say Eddie? 'Lawoowoo'? I believe in French it translates to 'a wombat's ballsack' which is concidered to be a delicacy over there. You played in Europe Eddie, how come you didn't change your name to Lawoowoo? How about I call you Eddie Lawoowoo from now on? Can I?
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Post#1372 » by Kerrsed » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:39 pm

Since the Morris era is now over, i feel like i can share these now:

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This was minutes before the beatdown. #FOE (Felony's Over Everything) entourage taking up the back row.
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Post#1373 » by Qwigglez » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:42 pm

Didn't ILWT post those? Or maybe he posted those on his Twitter.
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Re: Trade Deadline Countdown - Markieff? Teletovic? Tucker? Goodwin? 20 minutes and counting... 

Post#1374 » by Blkbrd671 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:45 pm

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Blkbrd671 wrote::( :( :( :( :( :(


Kieff hopes and dreams smashed.

anyways, thanks PHX board for being awesome. Truly had a great time. Good luck to you for the rest of your season.



You're gonna thank us for being awesome and then at the end of it say good luck? As if to win good luck? GTFO here with that and good riddance!


:lol: :wink:

Seriously though, it will be interesting to see how the Pistons mesh the rest of the year. I hope Tobias helps you guys out.


:lol:

i hope so to, he's still pretty young, my biggest worry is that we have so many alpha dogs in the lockeroom it could get testy or it could help drive the team towards the contending goal.

I really like the DMO pick up, i am just concerned about his health.

Biggest concern however is continuity and being at 9th spot, we can't really afford to lose games because our guys are still learning to play together. Hopefully the increase in talent balances that out. I think history would say our board is in for a rude awakening.
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Post#1375 » by Damkac » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:46 pm

SideSwipe wrote:Decent trade for Kieff, getting mid-first for him along with flexible expirings is a win. PHX will now be set for major offseason moves. PHX will not take all three picks. The fact that Tele and Tucker are still here suggests that they will batten down the hatches, get Bled back grow Book and swing for the fences in a pre-draft deal or two including our picks as bait (and maybe Knight), then use the $30 million in FA to cover the gaps. and go for the playoffs next year. Break out the Durant banners everyone, because I think he just may be our target for better or worse....

Bled/Knight/Tucker/Durant/Chandler with a serious bench including Book, Warren, Len It will never happen, but the FO may push for it, then settle for a Love trade of some kind.

I hope the FO won't push for something that has 0% chances of happening. It already hurt us when we gave that big contract to Chandler to get LAL.

I wish McD uses all 3 picks. He is very good at drafting. He may aim for high risk/high reward type players and hope at least 1 or 2 of them will turn out great.
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Post#1376 » by Kerrsed » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:46 pm

Qwigglez wrote:Didn't ILWT post those? Or maybe he posted those on his Twitter.


lol, nope. It was a informer who everyone was trying to call bs on when he announced what happened. He sent me the pictures 2 days before it was announced, but i didnt realize that he already posted them on twitter months back until just now. :lol:

**EDIT - Yes! I forgot that his twitter handle and RealGM handle were different. It was ILWT, but he only released them on twitter months ago.
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Re: Trade Discussion 

Post#1377 » by saintEscaton » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:47 pm

I wish wish we could have snagged DMo, knowing that Morey sold so low.
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Post#1378 » by Gorilla Warfare » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:50 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/MarkMcClune/status/700417915296677888[/tweet]

Kieff fell off his hoverboard on the way out of the arena.

*sorry if this has already been posted on previous pages. I haven't looked at the last like 24 pages.
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Post#1379 » by Kerrsed » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:52 pm

Gorilla Warfare wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/MarkMcClune/status/700417915296677888[/tweet]

Kieff fell off his hoverboard on the way out of the arena.


And in typical douche fashion had his #FOE man-servent pick it up for him as he just walked off.
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Re: Trade Discussion 

Post#1380 » by Skillmatic » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:59 pm

Ok, i am happy that kief is gone. But who do you guys think is playing starting PF now? I don't hope tele. But who else. Leuer didn't play a role unter Watson. I see a big Problem next year. I don't think that we will get the 1st Pick to get Simmons. And another PF of the draft isn't ready for a starting job i think. I wish we have luck and can get a D-league steal like Whiteside :D :lol: :lol:

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