AtheJ415 wrote:
Their volume was not small. 3 3s a game is high for a big man, particularly a center which is what Williams played at Arizona. If you are going to go that route, then nearly all college stats should be thrown out the door. None of the bigs in this lottery shot more 3s than that a game. Bagley shot 1.8. Jackson shot 2.7. None of them. So I guess we should ignore whatever any of them shot as entirely useless?
It obviously means something. Stats in college aren't meaningless. Sorry. You're just wrong here. Hitting 45% of his 3s means something, even over just 1 attempt a game, as opposed to hitting 5% of his 3s. You are literally sitting here saying they are meaningless and it's beyond dumb. Also, his workouts have shown him hitting at a high clip. His scouting reports don't have an issue with his release. And pointing out a couple examples where that didn't pan out doesn't really prove much. Channing Frye sucked at 3s in college. Marc Gasol sucked at 3s for nearly his entire career until 2 years ago. Jason Kidd had great rotation but could never hit 3s. There is a laundry list of guys in every statistical area who panned out or didn't in an unexpected way.
What we CAN go on is how they played so far, their workouts, and their actual releases to see how we think they will shoot at the next level. All 3 point to him being at least capable/not somebody you can just leave open.
Do you actually read my posts? I literally
never said in any post that all stats in college are meaningless. They're incredibly valuable, but they need to be looked at in
context. My claim, which you'd know is 100% legitimate if you had a shred of knowledge about how statistics work, is that a sample size of 40 shots in 37 games (
i.e. context) means nearly nothing in regards to how good of a shooter he is. It's obviously better than 5%, but it still means very little. I don't get how you can say me picking out examples of wings that haven't translated as shooters doesn't mean much, then counter with 2 of your own examples out of the small handful of centers that developed a 3 point shot.
I've never said he can't be a shooter or that his form sucks, only that I have very little reason to believe that he'll be a good shooter based on what I've seen from him in college and the volume he shot from 3. I'm sorry that you can't comprehend that, but I'd appreciate if you'd stop setting up strawmen from my posts and quoting me about how "beyond dumb" the most basic principle of statistics is. If you want to keep pushing that he's a good shooter, be my guest.