Almost off-season discussion! Trades/Free Agency Ep. 9

[Kerrsed]

Ayton >>> Drummond

Totally, and im a big Drummond fan!

[LukasBMW]

Detroit is a team that I'd love to have a draft pick from. They could really struggle with the moves they have made.

But Miami isn't far behind.

[BobbieL]

Detroit is a team that I'd love to have a draft pick from. They could really struggle with the moves they have made.

But Miami isn't far behind.

I am not sure the Suns need more picks. But I can see the Heat wanting a pick from the Suns. And to take a contract to help rebuild.

I still would like Dragic and Olynyk (I think he would work with Ayton) for Williams Ulis, Dudley, Chandler and a draft pick

[NTB]

#4 + Parsons = Warren + Chriss + #16 + Bucks pick + Miami pick

Too much? Even if it is too much I really want Ayton + Doncic(or JJJr)

[LukasBMW]

#4 + Parsons = Warren + Chriss + #16 + Bucks pick + Miami pick

Too much? Even if it is too much I really want Ayton + Doncic(or JJJr)

Modify it:

Chriss, Buck pick, lesser of 2021 Miami/Phoenix pick to Memphis
Kevin Love to Memphis

#16 to Clevland (+ dead weight salary filler)

Parsons and #4 to us.

We keep TJ and get some protection on that Miami pick. Fair for us taking on that awful contract.

Memphis still unloads that deal, gets Kevin Love, gets a future pick and moves down to #16. But they also get Chriss who is still full of potential (but may not have the right attitude).

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8erowxa

[DirtyDez]

#4 + Parsons = Warren + Chriss + #16 + Bucks pick + Miami pick

Too much? Even if it is too much I really want Ayton + Doncic(or JJJr)

If I’m Memphis i tell the Suns:
2019 PHX unprotected
2020 pick swap option
2021 PHX unprotected
2021 MIA unprotected

Then we can talk about players...

[DirtyDez]

I'm not sure that we have more to offer if the Lakers are open to moving Ingram, Kuzma, and/or Ball while we're not open to moving Booker, JJ, or the #1 overall

We should take Deng and Lonzo. It’s not like that cap space will result in anything. PGOTF and COTF locked up. I’d even throw in a pick.

[TeamTragic]

#4 + Parsons = Warren + Chriss + #16 + Bucks pick + Miami pick

Too much? Even if it is too much I really want Ayton + Doncic(or JJJr)

If I’m Memphis i tell the Suns:
2019 PHX unprotected
2020 pick swap option
2021 PHX unprotected
2021 MIA unprotected

Then we can talk about players...

I think you are on the wrong board. Below you even suggested that we should inherit Lonzo and that circus act known as his family.

Either you are clueless or want this team to fail. Please stop with this ridiculous garbage.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

#4 + Parsons = Warren + Chriss + #16 + Bucks pick + Miami pick

Too much? Even if it is too much I really want Ayton + Doncic(or JJJr)

If I’m Memphis i tell the Suns:
2019 PHX unprotected
2020 pick swap option
2021 PHX unprotected
2021 MIA unprotected

Then we can talk about players...

I ain't interested in talking players with the Grizzlies, unless they're talking about Conley. Parsons truly is a deal breaker for me, and TJ's pretty close to that for me as well. (Don't people want to make the playoffs next season?)

[RunDogGun]

#4 + Parsons = Warren + Chriss + #16 + Bucks pick + Miami pick

Too much? Even if it is too much I really want Ayton + Doncic(or JJJr)

Modify it:

Chriss, Buck pick, lesser of 2021 Miami/Phoenix pick to Memphis
Kevin Love to Memphis

#16 to Clevland (+ dead weight salary filler)

Parsons and #4 to us.

We keep TJ and get some protection on that Miami pick. Fair for us taking on that awful contract.

Memphis still unloads that deal, gets Kevin Love, gets a future pick and moves down to #16. But they also get Chriss who is still full of potential (but may not have the right attitude).

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8erowxa

It would be ironic if Love ended up with Memphis.

[DirtyDez]

#4 + Parsons = Warren + Chriss + #16 + Bucks pick + Miami pick

Too much? Even if it is too much I really want Ayton + Doncic(or JJJr)

If I’m Memphis i tell the Suns:
2019 PHX unprotected
2020 pick swap option
2021 PHX unprotected
2021 MIA unprotected

Then we can talk about players...

I ain't interested in talking players with the Grizzlies, unless they're talking about Conley. Parsons truly is a deal breaker for me, and TJ's pretty close to that for me as well. (Don't people want to make the playoffs next season?)

I’d be shocked if Memphis trades Parson with #4. Think about that. Not only do they sign him to that terrible deal but then they use a top-4 pick to dump him for some so-so assets? They’re aren’t passing on Bamba/Doncic should Sacramento go Porter.

[LukasBMW]

If the Lakers want to dump Deng on us but will include Kuzma and picks...I'm all about it.

[Revived]

If the Lakers want to dump Deng on us but will include Kuzma and picks...I'm all about it.

Better include Ingram too. I'd want him more than Kuzma.

[King4Day]

If the Lakers want to dump Deng on us but will include Kuzma and picks...I'm all about it.

I'd happily take just Kuzma if that offer came up. I think they'd rather just stretch Deng than lose a prized prospect.

[jsierra1985]

Kuzma would be nice...will make the laker/sun rivalry even sweeter since ball and kuz diss eachother on a daily basis lol

[BobbieL]

If the Lakers want to dump Deng on us but will include Kuzma and picks...I'm all about it.

I'd happily take just Kuzma if that offer came up. I think they'd rather just stretch Deng than lose a prized prospect.

I am still trying to figure out why the Suns would want Deng. He would take all their cap space up. So that would mean - unless somebody took Chandler and Dudley, over 40m of the cap would be totally wasted. If you add in the unknown of Knight, that 55m dollars Maybe for Ingram and Kuzma - but not picks - do not need more picks. I am okay with not going forward with making moves just to make moves - on multiple year deals - meaning don't redo 2010 with Hakim, Josh and Hedo. But Deng would be going sideways or to me, backwards. He has two years left on his deal.

The only way I do this deal is if a three team deal
Team X gets Deng , the Suns pick either 16 this year or a future non lottery first rounder and the pick from the Lakers
Lakers get cap space
Suns get Kuzma: I would give up a first round pick for Kuzma -

[King4Day]

If the Lakers want to dump Deng on us but will include Kuzma and picks...I'm all about it.

I'd happily take just Kuzma if that offer came up. I think they'd rather just stretch Deng than lose a prized prospect.

I am still trying to figure out why the Suns would want Deng. He would take all their cap space up. So that would mean - unless somebody took Chandler and Dudley, over 40m of the cap would be totally wasted. If you add in the unknown of Knight, that 55m dollars Maybe for Ingram and Kuzma - but not picks - do not need more picks. I am okay with not going forward with making moves just to make moves - on multiple year deals - meaning don't redo 2010 with Hakim, Josh and Hedo. But Deng would be going sideways or to me, backwards. He has two years left on his deal.

The only way I do this deal is if a three team deal
Team X gets Deng , the Suns pick either 16 this year or a future non lottery first rounder and the pick from the Lakers
Lakers get cap space
Suns get Kuzma: I would give up a first round pick for Kuzma -

It really is mind blowing that he will be making over 17mil each of the next 2 years. LA brass was a disaster that summer.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I'd happily take just Kuzma if that offer came up. I think they'd rather just stretch Deng than lose a prized prospect.

I am still trying to figure out why the Suns would want Deng. He would take all their cap space up. So that would mean - unless somebody took Chandler and Dudley, over 40m of the cap would be totally wasted. If you add in the unknown of Knight, that 55m dollars Maybe for Ingram and Kuzma - but not picks - do not need more picks. I am okay with not going forward with making moves just to make moves - on multiple year deals - meaning don't redo 2010 with Hakim, Josh and Hedo. But Deng would be going sideways or to me, backwards. He has two years left on his deal.

The only way I do this deal is if a three team deal
Team X gets Deng , the Suns pick either 16 this year or a future non lottery first rounder and the pick from the Lakers
Lakers get cap space
Suns get Kuzma: I would give up a first round pick for Kuzma -

It really is mind blowing that he will be making over 17mil each of the next 2 years. LA brass was a disaster that summer.

Its should serve as a cautionary reminder to the suns that some win now vet leadership deals can go tragically wrong. Tread lightly McD.

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[LofJ]

What would you guys give up to move from 16 to 11 in this draft?

Would you swap Dudley and Bender for Marvin Williams and Frank Kaminsky?

[gaspar]

What would you guys give up to move from 16 to 11 in this draft?

Would you swap Dudley and Bender for Marvin Williams and Frank Kaminsky?

Nothing tbh. #11 and #16 are in the same tier.