Fry opting out?

YouTube · Post #141 » by **Kerrsed** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:29 am

Saberestar wrote:Paul Coro
Free agency could mean that he is negotiating with the #Suns for something with more years and a lower initial cap hit.

COULD MEAN.

Kerr is pushing GS to take Frye on so they can keep Klay instead of trading him for Love.

Post #142 » by **TASTIC** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:49 pm

S&T him for Barnes.

I doubt GSW gives him up that easily but he could be a nice option at the 3. Loads of people hate him but the dude basically crushed it in the playoffs only for the team to go out and get Iggy - most young players would have acted how he did, whether we like to admit it or not.

He just needs confidence and an up and down system, he is a supreme athlete who can play and defend multiple positions - which is why I doubt Kerr wants him moved before he gets there, even for Frye - especially when they can sign him outright.

BobbieL · Post #143 » by **BobbieL** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:26 pm

I am fine if Frye opts out and gives the team 6.8m of cap space

I am fine if he goes to GSW

Channing is a stretch 4 that can hit the three but the Suns need more of a low post player in my opinion.

I can see why he wants to opt out and get a longer term deal that might get him closer to $20m coming off last year

But if the Suns do not want to go there - and I hope they don't. good luckChanning

Sreister · Post #144 » by **Sreister** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:09 pm

BobbieL wrote:I am fine if Frye opts out and gives the team 6.8m of cap space

I am fine if he goes to GSW

Channing is a stretch 4 that can hit the three but the Suns need more of a low post player in my opinion.

I can see why he wants to opt out and get a longer term deal that might get him closer to $20m coming off last year

But if the Suns do not want to go there - and I hope they don't. good luckChanning

I've always loved Frye, what a good locker room guy. But him opting out helps us a lot! Houston really want's a stretch 4..they've partnered with us in the past..maybe Parsons or at least Jones?

RunDogGun · Post #145 » by **RunDogGun** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:12 pm

Sreister wrote:
BobbieL wrote:I am fine if Frye opts out and gives the team 6.8m of cap space

I am fine if he goes to GSW

Channing is a stretch 4 that can hit the three but the Suns need more of a low post player in my opinion.

I can see why he wants to opt out and get a longer term deal that might get him closer to $20m coming off last year

But if the Suns do not want to go there - and I hope they don't. good luckChanning

I've always loved Frye, what a good locker room guy. But him opting out helps us a lot! Houston really want's a stretch 4..they've partnered with us in the past..maybe Parsons or at least Jones?

Couldn't they just sign him? Why would they give up one of their guys?

As for the cap space, Frye opting out is a bigger hit cap hold wise, until he signs a contract, or we renounce his rights.

Sreister · Post #146 » by **Sreister** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:16 pm

RunDogGun wrote:
Sreister wrote:
BobbieL wrote:I am fine if Frye opts out and gives the team 6.8m of cap space

I am fine if he goes to GSW

Channing is a stretch 4 that can hit the three but the Suns need more of a low post player in my opinion.

I can see why he wants to opt out and get a longer term deal that might get him closer to $20m coming off last year

But if the Suns do not want to go there - and I hope they don't. good luckChanning

I've always loved Frye, what a good locker room guy. But him opting out helps us a lot! Houston really want's a stretch 4..they've partnered with us in the past..maybe Parsons or at least Jones?

Couldn't they just sign him? Why would they give up one of their guys?

As for the cap space, Frye opting out is a bigger hit cap hold wise, until he signs a contract, or we renounce his rights.

Isn't that exactly what Nash did?

phx#7 · Post #147 » by **phx#7** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:27 pm

Sreister wrote:

Isn't that exactly what Nash did?

The Lakers didn't have the money to sign Nash and could only acquire him through a S&T. Frye will not be getting more than the MLE, no team is going to give up an asset to sign him unless the Suns are taking back a bad contract.

Sreister · Post #148 » by **Sreister** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:38 pm

phx#7 wrote:
Sreister wrote:

Isn't that exactly what Nash did?

The Lakers didn't have the money to sign Nash and could only acquire him through a S&T. Frye will not be getting more than the MLE, no team is going to give up an asset to sign him unless the Suns are taking back a bad contract.

They are penny pinching. They wanna sign some big FA and anything they can to get cheap and/or better help right now, they will.

gaspar · Post #149 » by **gaspar** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:58 pm

phx#7 wrote:
Sreister wrote:

Isn't that exactly what Nash did?

The Lakers didn't have the money to sign Nash and could only acquire him through a S&T. Frye will not be getting more than the MLE, no team is going to give up an asset to sign him unless the Suns are taking back a bad contract.

Not necessarily. A team like GSW who would like to sign more than one player in free agency (they need a better backup PG badly) could be willing to acquire Frye via S&T and use the MLE on a Livingston or Mills.

phrazbit · Post #150 » by **phrazbit** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:14 pm

Its hard enough to get back decent value when you ship away a star in a sign and trade, there is no freaking chance anyone is going to give up anything worth a poop for Frye in a trade. Especially not something like Parsons who is worth about 5 times as much as Frye even under ideal circumstances.

Revived · Post #151 » by **Revived** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:25 pm

rsavaj wrote:Frye's gonna be one of those dudes people won't appreciate until he's gone.

Hope he stays.

Kieff should replace him pretty easily. Not quite as good a shooter maybe but a much better all around player.

Barkley6 · Post #152 » by **Barkley6** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:59 pm

Sreister wrote:
phx#7 wrote:
Sreister wrote:

Isn't that exactly what Nash did?

The Lakers didn't have the money to sign Nash and could only acquire him through a S&T. Frye will not be getting more than the MLE, no team is going to give up an asset to sign him unless the Suns are taking back a bad contract.

They are penny pinching. They wanna sign some big FA and anything they can to get cheap and/or better help right now, they will.

Not necessarily penny pinching. Yes, they want as much space as possible (space for 2 Max guys). But Frye is looking for long term security. If he's willing to take a hometown discount and we could resign him for 3 years/14m, that's huge. Frees up an extra 1.5m, which could be the difference between keeping Tucker or letting him sign elsewhere, while still maintaining enough space to match offers for Bledsoe and tempt a max FA.

Maystack · Post #153 » by **Maystack** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:48 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/481221359012298752[/tweet]

It's official

BurningHeart · Post #154 » by **BurningHeart** » Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:28 am

Would love to have Frye back. Hopefully we can negotiate something even more reasonable with him.

PassWarden · Post #155 » by **PassWarden** » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:16 am

Channing opting out is bitter-sweet. I really admired the way he came back after the scare with his heart, but I won't necessarily be sad to see Frye (the player) leave. Truth is, there are better options out there for us.

Post #156 » by **floppymoose** » Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:58 am

If Frye isn't looking to stay, or if the Suns aren't looking to pay him, consider an S&T with GSW. They have a TPE that covers Frye, and there could be a simultaneous trade of Barnes for a lesser player as payment.

McStunna · Post #157 » by **McStunna** » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:44 am

If the Warriors and Suns were interested in that why not just sign and trade Frye for Barnes? Frye should not make more than 4.5M$ in his first year and the Warriors could take back 150% of Barnes salary I thought.

ruiner · Post #158 » by **ruiner** » Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:08 am

W's not gonna give us Barnes - stop it.

This. IS. AWESOME. FINALLY. Hope we don't bring him back. And I'm tired of hearing how underrated his presence is as the stretch 4 just being there. He makes us too soft inside, doesn't rebound (even if it wasn't by design) and shooting - that's all he's ever good for when he's on, which he's not most of the time. Replaceable and upgrade-able. This opens up McD to quite a bit of options for him to work his magic if/when he's renounced.

McStunna · Post #159 » by **McStunna** » Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:12 am

Phoenix Suns fans have a crazy way of overrating Barnes or estimating what the Warriors think of Barnes..

NBAfan3024 · Post #160 » by **NBAfan3024** » Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:51 am

Sreister wrote:
BobbieL wrote:I am fine if Frye opts out and gives the team 6.8m of cap space

I am fine if he goes to GSW

Channing is a stretch 4 that can hit the three but the Suns need more of a low post player in my opinion.

I can see why he wants to opt out and get a longer term deal that might get him closer to $20m coming off last year

But if the Suns do not want to go there - and I hope they don't. good luckChanning

I've always loved Frye, what a good locker room guy. But him opting out helps us a lot! Houston really want's a stretch 4..they've partnered with us in the past..maybe Parsons or at least Jones?

Why would they give up that much?