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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#141 » by King4Day » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:36 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
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cinematographer wrote:Knight/Ersan for Max Bledsoe/Bogdanovic?

This is the trend on the bucks board. I know fans are fans but their not thinking rationally.


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Are you kidding me? That's actually trending over there?

I was just over there. To be fair, they realize it's short changing the Suns. Like us, they have bad offers too. Let's not jump on them just because we saw a bad deal.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#142 » by sunsbum » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:37 am

YO NICK BRO DONT LEAVE US HANGING!!! What does 3 barks mean? He's always so goddamn vague.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#143 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:37 am

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Moochthemonkey wrote:i like it...but doesn't make much sense for NY. surely they can find more assets than just a 2nd round pick.

I think Amare opts out and resigns for a 3 year deal around 15-17m$.


I'm trying to catch up with the insane amount of posts you guys have made while I was working all day... and stopped reading the last thread at this post...

WHY THE HELL would Amare opt out of $23,410,988 FOR ONE YEAR to take $15-17M over 3?????!?!?! That makes zero sense.


I didn't even see that one, but yes, that is ridiculous. Obviously he'd be dumb to opt out, and obviously it would be dumb for NY to re-sign him.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#144 » by Gorilla Warfare » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:39 am

Bledsoe/Archie for Parker/Sanders/Knight/Henson/Ilyasova/3 future 1st's might do it for McD. Anything less wouldn't be McD's style. 8-)
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#145 » by SunsFanSSOL » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:39 am

grumpysaddle wrote:
Moochthemonkey wrote:i like it...but doesn't make much sense for NY. surely they can find more assets than just a 2nd round pick.

I think Amare opts out and resigns for a 3 year deal around 15-17m$.


I'm trying to catch up with the insane amount of posts you guys have made while I was working all day... and stopped reading the last thread at this post...

WHY THE HELL would Amare opt out of $23,410,988 FOR ONE YEAR to take $15-17M over 3?????!?!?! That makes zero sense.


He already opted in anyways.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#146 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:42 am

Kerrsed (and everyone else, but I know Kerrsed loves Sanders), how would you feel about an Ilyasova, Sanders, Knight deal for Bledsoe and Plumlee?
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#147 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:42 am

Gorilla Warfare wrote:Bledsoe/Archie for Parker/Sanders/Knight/Henson/Ilyasova/3 future 1st's might do it for McD. Anything less wouldn't be McD's style. 8-)

McD will probably throw in a heavily protected 2nd just to make the other team think they got away with highway robbery
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#148 » by Cutter » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:43 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:
cinematographer wrote:Knight/Ersan for Max Bledsoe/Bogdanovic?

This is the trend on the bucks board. I know fans are fans but their not thinking rationally.

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If they WERE feeling like they had to get rid of one of our high priced point guards, and were looking at S&T possibilities for Bledsoe (which was reported a week or so ago), that wouldn't be terrible if Ersan was in top form. Brandon Knight isn't great, but I think he could be pretty good in the right system. He shot 38% from 3 as a rookie.

I think Milwaukee is a team where their parts are probably WAY better than the sum of their parts....terrible coaching or a mix of players or something.

I'm not saying it's an even deal, and I wouldn't want to throw in Bogdan, but it's not awful if those guys can be coached to their potential and it allows us to keep Dragic and give him that stretch four he flourishes with.

Again, I am NOT saying I would DO this deal, but I think it's better than most homer fans on their own boards come up with. I'd probably demand a 1st round pick too...maybe they could protect it a little bit like Atlanta did with JJ.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#149 » by Gorilla Warfare » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:43 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
Gorilla Warfare wrote:Bledsoe/Archie for Parker/Sanders/Knight/Henson/Ilyasova/3 future 1st's might do it for McD. Anything less wouldn't be McD's style. 8-)

McD will probably throw in a heavily protected 2nd just to make the other team think they got away with highway robbery


Top 50 protected for sure.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#150 » by Phystic » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:44 am

grumpysaddle wrote:
Moochthemonkey wrote:i like it...but doesn't make much sense for NY. surely they can find more assets than just a 2nd round pick.

I think Amare opts out and resigns for a 3 year deal around 15-17m$.


I'm trying to catch up with the insane amount of posts you guys have made while I was working all day... and stopped reading the last thread at this post...

WHY THE HELL would Amare opt out of $23,410,988 FOR ONE YEAR to take $15-17M over 3?????!?!?! That makes zero sense.


Tell me about it. Went to work this morning and the first thread was on like page 65 come home and it's on Page 96, locked and thread #2 is on page 7.

Good lord.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#151 » by Kerrsed » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:44 am

bwgood77 wrote:Kerrsed (and everyone else, but I know Kerrsed loves Sanders), how would you feel about an Ilyasova, Sanders, Knight deal for Bledsoe and Plumlee?


Nope. I am a bit high on Sanders, but not that high. I wouldnt give up Bledsoe for anything on the Bucks.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#152 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:48 am

Kerrsed wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Kerrsed (and everyone else, but I know Kerrsed loves Sanders), how would you feel about an Ilyasova, Sanders, Knight deal for Bledsoe and Plumlee?


Nope. I am a bit high on Sanders, but not that high. I wouldnt give up Bledsoe for anything on the Bucks.


Another question for you. I see there are like 45 users in the forum right now (which is about as high as I ever remember). Are you also able to see how many non users/members are viewing it? Always been curious. In some forums there are often times more non users than users viewing. Just curious if there are like 100 people viewing or 50.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#153 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:48 am

Kerrsed wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Kerrsed (and everyone else, but I know Kerrsed loves Sanders), how would you feel about an Ilyasova, Sanders, Knight deal for Bledsoe and Plumlee?


Nope. I am a bit high on Sanders, but not that high. I wouldnt give up Bledsoe for anything on the Bucks.

You talking realistically?
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#154 » by thamadkant » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:51 am

I had a feeling that Suns FO had a "go hard or go home" attitude coming into this free agency.

It seems that they are either going to contend for a championship or keep cap flexibility and push the youth.


The 2 scenarios with Lebron, either he signs or not sign…
The two direction Suns FO may choose seems to be about 180 degrees apart… seems anyways.

I could of waited until tomorrow to post this but…

I think Suns may consider letting Bledsoe go (via sign and trade), if they don’t land Lebron.

Why?
- Keep salary flexible for 2015.
- Spend the money on Dragic next season instead.
- Suns have Goodwin, Ennis, Bogdanovic and Green who can be slotted next to Dragic.

But losing Frye hurts Dragic's game more… so that bit is a puzzle.

In 2015, they can bid for Love…
This Lebron fiasco, as mentioned by Amico, is a win/win for Suns in a way, that they have sent a message to Stars that they are serious about going for gold.

Love will give Suns FO time to pitch him the plan to go forward, Suns will most likely explain to Love the free agents they will target along with Love.


2014-2015 season looks to be more competitve than 2013-2014 in regards to the top 6 teams in the league anyways, Suns are far off from that if they don’t snag Lebron and another star, so if they miss out on the Lebron sweepstakes; I wont be surprise if the Suns save their "run" for 2015+.

Of course all the above would be wiped away if Lebron accepts Suns in the next 48 hours.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#155 » by Kerrsed » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:51 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Kerrsed (and everyone else, but I know Kerrsed loves Sanders), how would you feel about an Ilyasova, Sanders, Knight deal for Bledsoe and Plumlee?


Nope. I am a bit high on Sanders, but not that high. I wouldnt give up Bledsoe for anything on the Bucks.


Another question for you. I see there are like 45 users in the forum right now (which is about as high as I ever remember). Are you also able to see how many non users/members are viewing it? Always been curious. In some forums there are often times more non users than users viewing. Just curious if there are like 100 people viewing or 50.


Unfortunately i cant, but you are right, the number of non members viewing always outnumbers the members.

lilfishi22 wrote:You talking realistically?


Maybe for a package of Sanders/Parker, but lets be real, they wouldnt give that up and Bledsoe wouldnt want to be stuck as a buck.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#156 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jul 8, 2014 3:00 am

I know some people are wanting something to happen, but honestly, if we don't get LeBron, I'd probably rather hold steady and go for Love in a trade during the season. Who else out there REALLY makes a difference and is worth blowing cap space on?

Unless there is a blockbuster trade that brings us back a star, and I don't mean Rondo.

The way Hornacek can coach unhidden gems, I think it would be fun to pry some people we don't expect much out of, and then watch Hornacek do his magic, and retain flexibility to keep both Bledsoe and Dragic and let him get the young guys ready.

I think Pau is getting closer to joining the Thunder...Stein says Brooks is meeting with him.

Anyone follow this guy on twitter? https://twitter.com/Probballdraft

I see Zach Lowe, Broussard, Matt Moore, and Sam Amick follow him, but he posts a bunch of tweets that show up on hoopshype....he seems like some sort of insider somewhere. Probably a guy Broussard refers to as a source.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#157 » by JTrain » Tue Jul 8, 2014 3:00 am

Lebron in, Dragic out?

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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#158 » by Frank Lee » Tue Jul 8, 2014 3:02 am

If McDo wants Ersan , he'll find a way... If involves Bled. Then count on a future first as well. I would not be surprised if those talks , if indeed there are any talks, could evolve into a Tucker + Ennis offer.
Regardless of my manfan love for Illysova, we certainly have to find a good shooting PF. Pickings are slim, and it looks as if the workman Turkman could be had
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#159 » by Moochthemonkey » Tue Jul 8, 2014 3:04 am

grumpysaddle wrote:
Moochthemonkey wrote:i like it...but doesn't make much sense for NY. surely they can find more assets than just a 2nd round pick.

I think Amare opts out and resigns for a 3 year deal around 15-17m$.


I'm trying to catch up with the insane amount of posts you guys have made while I was working all day... and stopped reading the last thread at this post...

WHY THE HELL would Amare opt out of $23,410,988 FOR ONE YEAR to take $15-17M over 3?????!?!?! That makes zero sense.


My bad...I'm a dumbass. I forgot he was making that much money. I could see him taking 25$ over 4 though.

Edit: Oops, just reading that another poster said he opted in anyway. Man I'm just out-goofing myself today lol :droop:
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#160 » by Scubetrolis » Tue Jul 8, 2014 3:17 am

so whens this lebron decision coming?

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