Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 3

[bwgood77]

Not a great example to set to our players.

Throw a tantrum and get traded to a better team to make $150m x 3.

What's a better example? Force the guy throwing a tantrum to play?

[King4Day]

Really the only good thing about this is we didn't take back a long term bad contract. The pick is lottery protected and we don't even have a roster spot next year for 3 firsts let alone one selected in the latter 1/3 of the first round.

I bet we look to pair the Bucks and Heat picks to move up a few spot.

[jcsunsfan]

Why did he wait till now to trade Bledsoe when his value was shot?

He knew Bledsoe wasn't part of the longterm plans/rebuild why didn't he trade him last year or during the summer?

Oh we did? You knew that? I know he's been in trade talks, but before this summer, he was all in trying to be a leader. Not saying I wanted him to stay, I wanted to try and deal him for a PG this past summer, but hindsight is something we all wish we had. We didn't know he was going to kill his trade stock with one tweet.

Bledsoe was definitely part of the long term plans, at least for the next two years. I think they would have liked to sign him to a reasonable extension too. McD has always really liked Bledsoe as a player. There is no way he deserves a max extension and he is not going to get one.

[Mulhollanddrive]

2 roster spots and 6 drafts picks let's hope other teams can't do the math.

[Saberestar]

Monroe was +1.55 in 22MPG last year per RPM.

I am trying to say that he is not a bad player at all. I want to give him an opportunity on the Suns.

He turned 27 and posted averages of 11.7 points, 6.6 boards, 2.3 assists and 1.1 steals last season in 22 mpg on 53.3 percent shooting.

[Biff]

Why is everyone killing McD here? You act like there's always going to be a way to get the best possible deal. He's not great, but calling him the worst? That's honestly laughable. You act like he's not hand tied by our owner. You act like his hand wasn't forced by Bled. Sure, we wanted him gone at the end of last season, and we HEARD (WE JUST HEARD OF RUMORS THAT WE HAD A DEAL IN PLACE) that we wanted to trade him, but who's to say those are 1.) true 2.) if they were true, that we were the one to say no instead of them telling us no.

Knee jerk reactions make me laugh. I know people are going to come at me with all their evidence that he's literally Hitler, but sometimes you lose trades, and it's not our fault. With the information we've been given, without any speculation as to what Bled did or didn't do in regards to asking to leave, Bled is the one that put us in this position. He tweeted his way out and that's what we know.

Sure, McD could be better, but honestly, to call him the worst is a knee jerk reaction.

His hand was forced by Bledsoe because he waited too long to trade him. We acquired 3 starting caliber PG's because he said they were assets and he has turned them into (so far) Chriss (meh), Reed (unknown), a late first round pick and a 2nd round pick (unknown but statistically speaking it'll likely be meh) and Miami's 2021 pick (another unknown). I'm not saying that's horrible but it's really not all that great either. Meanwhile, his handling of the situation, in which 2 of the PG's demanded to be traded (and the Morris brothers as well), has helped foster a rather unpleasant image for the Suns. We don't exactly have a great reputation around the league.

[kennydorglas]

I guess no one wanted to deal with Rich Paul and a guard with 2 ACL, which game relies in athleticism.

[rsavaj]

what did y'all expect

McDonough backed himself into a corner here. The chances of him getting anything close to "good" return were pretty much 0.

I thought Bled was gonna be traded for a bag of potato chips, so I'll take the lottery-protected first and an expiring. It's trash return but hey, McDonough put himself in trash negotiating position. Dude messed up big time.

[Gam]

I hope you guys treat Moose right, he's a good guy and plays hard. And if you want someone for your young Cs to learn post moves from, there's nobody better. I think this trade is a win-win for both teams. And thank you very much for Bledsoe I think he's going to be a wonderful fit for us.

[Gorilla Warfare]

lol the first round pick is lottery protected.

Bucks GM to McD: You like my jacket? It’s made of FLEECE.

[Sreister]

what did y'all expect

McDonough backed himself into a corner here. The chances of him getting anything close to "good" return were pretty much 0.

I thought Bled was gonna be traded for a bag of potato chips, so I'll take the lottery-protected first and an expiring. It's trash return but hey, McDonough put himself in trash negotiating position. Dude messed up big time.

Too long to trade him, sure I can buy that. I wanted him gone last draft. But to say this is all on McD is wrong. 1.) No one knew Bled was going to take the unprofessional way out and tweet. No one sees that coming and it was a low blow on his part, killing any value he had. 2.) This trade looks HUGE if injury prone Bled gets hurt. Bled was always one play away from giving us NOTHING, so we got SOMETHING out of this anyway. It's not what we wanted, but it's better than a blown knee and dead weight.

Stop blaming McD for all our problems. We have more problems than a middle of the road GM.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Did we get a 2nd?

Why do we keep sending these disgruntled players to good teams like Boston, Miami, Washington, Milwaukee.

[Walt_Uoob]

If Monroe's one of the only large expiring deals out there maybe we can still trade him for a first from a team looking to shed salary. Then we'd have gotten two firsts for Bledsoe.

[Jdiddy701]

Sad trade for us. Sad times for us in Phoenix.


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[Biff]

what did y'all expect

McDonough backed himself into a corner here. The chances of him getting anything close to "good" return were pretty much 0.

I thought Bled was gonna be traded for a bag of potato chips, so I'll take the lottery-protected first and an expiring. It's trash return but hey, McDonough put himself in trash negotiating position. Dude messed up big time.

Too long to trade him, sure I can buy that. I wanted him gone last draft. But to say this is all on McD is wrong. 1.) No one knew Bled was going to take the unprofessional way out and tweet. No one sees that coming and it was a low blow on his part, killing any value he had. 2.) This trade looks HUGE if injury prone Bled gets hurt. Bled was always one play away from giving us NOTHING, so we got SOMETHING out of this anyway. It's not what we wanted, but it's better than a blown knee and dead weight.

Stop blaming McD for all our problems. We have more problems than a middle of the road GM.

Sorry but this is BS. There were already rumors that Bledsoe was unhappy about being sat at the end of last season and wanted to be traded. The fact that the dude just completely mailed it in and screwed off from opening tip more or less confirms that he had been unhappy for a long time. That kind of behavior doesn't just come out of nowhere. This is 100% on McD.

[Qwigglez]

Okay so my initial reaction was the same as everyone else. Eff this team, I'm done. We are trash. Can't even get good value. Right now, this trade is graded as big fat F-
I am assuming the pick is for 2018. If that's the case, then we have 3 picks in a very solid draft plus an expiring contract. When McD first got here he mentioned he would be able to bring a star to Phoenix. Since then, it's changed to this hashtagTimeline garbage. We better be setting up to get a star player soon, or Booker/Suns are going to end up being like Boogie/Kings.
All I'm saying is we better be trying to cash in all these assets. We can offer 3 1st round picks from other teams (Heat 2018/2021, Bucks pick) plus our own picks, plus 2nd rounders, plus a huge expiring, plus maybe a young player back (Chriss).

Spoiler:

Suns get-
KP
Joakim Noah

Knicks get-
Greg Monroe
Marquese Chriss
25 picks

I'm not saying the Knicks would do this, but I'm thinking this is the kind of trade McD is now looking for.

Lastly if we just buyout Monroe I will definitely be done with this team.

[Mulhollanddrive]

He's passed up 6 x top 30 players to keep draft picks this year.

[Saberestar]

Porzingis? Good luck trading for him.

[PhxSunsFan13]

On the off chance the Bucks wind up in the lottery this year, are there any protections on the pick next year?

[Mulhollanddrive]

Sounds like lottery protected.

Wouldn't be surprised if McDonough uses the 4 extra picks to target a PG at the deadline not sure who though.