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Re: 2021 Draft 

Post#141 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri May 21, 2021 8:09 pm

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Maybe we can find a guy in the 2nd round of the draft that could guard AD or LeBron next year. Do we have our 2nd rounder? Any good candidates?


Unfortunately, I believe that Memphis holds the rights to our 2nd in the 2021 draft???

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24148729/brooklyn-nets-acquire-jared-dudley-2021-second-round-pick-phoenix-suns-darrell-arthur

So we'd have to trade in or purchase a pick. But there are actually quite a few very decent options throughout the 2nd round honestly. And even though they'd obviously struggle some to contain players like AD and/ or Lebron, They definitely be very cost effective ways for us to add tangible size, athleticism and length to our frontcourt for subsequent matchups specifically against teams such as the lakers with AD/ Drummond/ Gasol, Etc.

IF we can/ do trade in or buy in, These are quite honestly the best candidates that I've come across so far:[spoiler]1- Jay Huff
He's 7'1 around 240lbs with a 7'5 wingspan ( 1 inch below Davis' reported 7'6 wingspan). He's got a high basketball IQ, Plays very good defense for Virginia, AND hits the three at a very good percentage ( 38%). And has a FG% of around 58%, TS% 59% and a BPM of 12.2.

** I love his versatility, aggressiveness, length, mobility and IQ. And that he can actually play both the 4 and the 5. He's currently still under the radar, And projected in the mid to late 2nd range. He'd be great next to either Ayton OR Saric due to his versatile complimentary skillset, defense and size. :nod:

2- Sandro Mukashavili
Sandro is 6'11 240 lbs with around a 7'1 wingspan. Now his value would be predicated not as much on his defensive ability. But to maintain our offense, playmaking versatility whenever Ayton sits, Or even alongside of Ayton, Wherein Ayton focuses solely on the defensive end! Really there's almost nothing on the offensive end that Sandro can't do! He's a great playmaker for a 6'11 big. He's got advanced ballhandling and really crafty scoring in the post, great speed and fluidity, hits big shots and is aggressive and does have solid athleticism and a high basketball IQ. He's basically a RICH man's version of Saric, Or a budget version of Jokic honestly!!! He's currently under the radar, And can be had with an early to mid range 2nd round pick. And would quite honestly be a big upgrade from Saric and/ or Kaminsky. Lastly, He'd be the perfect offensive compliment to Smith, As he could help orchestrate our frontcourt offense, Whilst Jalen can focus primarily on defense AND his spot up shooting as Sandro is a tremendous high level passer!

**Sandro is also versatile enough to play both positions as well! I just love that he could initiate the offense himself on the break, And is a high level passer. He could basically really help Booker in those situations, wherein Paul rests, And Book plays the point! And I think with a little time and chemistry, Booker and Sandro could become a lethal combination in the pick and roll. If you can envision the possibilities! :nod:

3- Neemias Queta
Neemias Queta is 7 ft. 226 lbs with a 7'4 wingspan and is a very good defensive center. He actually compares somewhat favorably to AD ( crazy enough to consider) in terms of statistical production in a few areas, Which gives hope to his projected defensive potential.
He has a Fg% 55, TS% 59, EFG% 55, And a BPM of 12.2.

http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=neemias-queta--anthony-davis

Queta is a terrific defensive player with great weakside rotational awareness and who plays smart defense by staying vertical and also does have a developing faceup game. The only real knock on Queta would be his lack of a 3 point shot as of yet in his toolbox. But he's still a great rim protector and weakside defender regardless. And his shooting mechanics are decent enough for there to be hope of developing a reliable 3 point shot in time.

** Honorable mention
1- Ibou Dianko Badji ( extreme upside prospect). Badji is an uber athletic 7'1 240 lb.big man with an absurd 7'8 wingspan and a 9'10 standing reach. :o :jawdrop:
https://www.nbadraftjunkies.com/ibou-badji

He's basically a raw version ( due to lack of playing time in Barcelona) of Rudy Gobert. And he projects comparably to Gobert ( in time) defensively!!! He's currently projected to be a late 2nd to undrafted upside pick. He'd be an excellent draft and stash option for us honestly! :nod:


2- Kofi Cockburn
Kofi is an absolutely dominating powerhouse brute in the post. He's got very similar measurables and girth to that of a young SHAQUILLE O'NEAL. He's 7'0 285 lbs with a 7'6 wingspan And has a very similar style of brutish overpowering play. Now my interest in Cockburn would be in that he's just so massive, heavy, long and powerful in the paint, That he'd exhaust, brutalize, demoralize and beat up opposing frontcourts! As well as the tremendous gravity in the paint that he creates would really benefit our shooters. He'd also be a perfect consideration to match up against the bigger, stronger, heavier centers such as Drummond, Gasol, Whiteside, Valuncias, Adam's, Embiid, Howard, Nurkic, etc that seems to consistently be giving our finesse frontcourt major issues. Additionally, he'd provide us the benefits in the playoffs of toughness, a dominant presence in the paint, drawing a ton of fouls, intimidating the penetration of the opposition, And again, wearing out the opposition with his sheer size and power game. * Someone did mention that Davis has trouble against the bigger, stronger centers in the league. Now with his apparent back issues and fragility overall, Perhaps we can exploit this somewhat?? using Kofis' sheer size and brutish power? :dontknow: Or at the very least, He could provide 5 very hard fouls AND wear either of Davis or James down considerably. Making them much less effective against us at times?
He's currently projected as a late to undrafted prospect. So he could be considered a tremendous value pick and provide us with a different look and much needed size in the playoffs?

Those are just a few considerations available in the 2nd round for minimal cost.
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I can't see us buying or trading into the 2nd round when we have so much depth, can't even get a 10th round pick on the floor, etc.

We use our first rounder, which will be a very cheap guaranteed deal with team option the last two years...in some ways it's a nice pick to have, and then maybe test a couple undrafted players in camp...maybe one of your guys fall.

I definitely can't watch a bunch of videos in one post. Focusing on one per post might get more people to watch and comment, but too many, especially 2nd round guys, won't likely pique any interest to watch 4-5 or more videos. 1 maybe. And you could spread them out over posts so they don't eat up so much of people's time.


Apologies! I definitely agree on the post man! Old habits and what not it seems.....lol.

I also definitely understand your position on buying or trading into the draft as well considering our immenent financial constraints. Unless the suns front office post playoffs decide of course to make some roster adjustments or seek to trade a player or not resign a player or two interest of payroll reduction or resulting greater cap flexibility heading into free agency??

Also IF our front office is fairly certain/ confident that Paul intends to resign with us, Then they might find it quite reasonable to prioritize our late first round pick to bolster our frontcourt with more size, length, athleticism, etc. Depending upon how our frontcourt fares against the Flakers! Again, in interest of a more cost effective option to what they'd entertain in free agency?

Now IF that becomes the case, Then I would absolutely prioritize Jay Huff as our top option at 29, AND Sandro Mukashavili as our secondary option. Or IF they feel that as you stated, Some of my mentioned prospects will definitely be available from the undrafted talent pool, Then I'd be all in favor of using our late first on a guard consideration! My top 3 in that range would of course be:

1- Ayo Dosunma- Jrue Holiday lite?
2- Tre Mann.- Better Devin Harris?
3- Bones Hyland- slightly smaller Jamal Crawford?

* might consider "Duece" McBride too, As he projects somewhat favorably to Kyle Lowry! :dontknow:
Lastly, IF we do let go of Kaminsky or another supplementary player, And find that we do have some wiggle room in free agency, There should be some affordable quality big man options for around 5 million or less that could offer more tangible size, depth for our frontcourt. Hassan Whiteside, Nerlens Noel, Dwight Howard, Willy Cauly Stein perhaps? Maybe even Daniel Theiss?
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Re: 2021 Draft 

Post#142 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri May 28, 2021 7:29 pm

https://zonahoops.com/2021/02/19/sandro-mamukelashvili-nba-scouting-report/

The perfect Dario upgrade or Kaminsky replacement. 6'11 playmaking 4/5 that moves and passes like a guard with crafty scoring like that of Jokic himself!!! :nod:

* If you could add or replace Saric with a Nikola Jokic like big to backup Ayton, Wouldn't you just have to consider it!
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Re: 2021 Draft 

Post#143 » by RedIndian » Sun May 30, 2021 7:02 am

Ghost of Kleine wrote:Apologies! I definitely agree on the post man! Old habits and what not it seems.....lol.

I also definitely understand your position on buying or trading into the draft as well considering our immenent financial constraints. Unless the suns front office post playoffs decide of course to make some roster adjustments or seek to trade a player or not resign a player or two interest of payroll reduction or resulting greater cap flexibility heading into free agency??

Also IF our front office is fairly certain/ confident that Paul intends to resign with us, Then they might find it quite reasonable to prioritize our late first round pick to bolster our frontcourt with more size, length, athleticism, etc. Depending upon how our frontcourt fares against the Flakers! Again, in interest of a more cost effective option to what they'd entertain in free agency?

Now IF that becomes the case, Then I would absolutely prioritize Jay Huff as our top option at 29, AND Sandro Mukashavili as our secondary option. Or IF they feel that as you stated, Some of my mentioned prospects will definitely be available from the undrafted talent pool, Then I'd be all in favor of using our late first on a guard consideration! My top 3 in that range would of course be:

1- Ayo Dosunma- Jrue Holiday lite?
2- Tre Mann.- Better Devin Harris?
3- Bones Hyland- slightly smaller Jamal Crawford?

* might consider "Duece" McBride too, As he projects somewhat favorably to Kyle Lowry! :dontknow:
Lastly, IF we do let go of Kaminsky or another supplementary player, And find that we do have some wiggle room in free agency, There should be some affordable quality big man options for around 5 million or less that could offer more tangible size, depth for our frontcourt. Hassan Whiteside, Nerlens Noel, Dwight Howard, Willy Cauly Stein perhaps? Maybe even Daniel Theiss?


As this playoff series unfolds, more and more I feel we badly need a pull-up scorer for the future.

Of the lot in our range, I think Hyland, Tre Mann and Cam Thomas stand out.

Thomas has may be the best scoring instincts of the lot. Very strong and good first step, but he's more midrange reliant and not as great a shooter as the other two.

Tre Mann is the most poised. Good shifty handle, very smooth looking stroke and a nice floater game as well. Lacks great length and athleticism though. I think that will be a struggle for him in the NBA.

Hyland is the best bet for microwave scoring in the NBA a'la Lou Will or Jordan Clarkson. Best case he could also be a very good started like McCollum. Very good shiftiness, ball handling and deep deep range with a very quick release. I'd be confident in him scoring in the NBA straight off the bat.
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Re: 2021 Draft 

Post#144 » by RedIndian » Sun May 30, 2021 12:23 pm

I have to say Hyland is made for scoring in the NBA - very good length, good first step, shifty handle and incredible range. Seeing how well Quickley has played as a rookie for NY, we should be all over Hyland – similar physical profile, but a lot more talented.

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Re: 2021 Draft 

Post#145 » by bwgood77 » Sun May 30, 2021 4:18 pm

I think we just use our spot on a very nice backup big who is ready and should be available around our range. This guy is a very good defensive big who averages over 4 blocks per game along with 10+ rebounds and is a 4 year guy so will be 22 and probably immediately ready for some backup minutes like Mikal and Cam were coming in at that age.



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Re: 2021 Draft 

Post#146 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sun May 30, 2021 5:16 pm

Jay Huff is Kaminsky with Balls, athleticism, shotblocking and tenacity!!! :lol: :lol: :wink:

http://www.tankathon.com/players/jay-huff


This dude is 7'1 240 lbs. Has a freaking 7'5 wingspan! ( only 1 inch shorter than Davis). Has a 67% TS, a 65% EFG, an 11.9 BPM.
He's also shooting 38% from three, And 83% from free throws! I have Huff with a slight edge over Queta, Only because of his ability to hit the three, Ability to switch and play at either position 4 or 5.

But either would be great, As Huff has the offensive/ defensive skillset. But Queta is a phenomenal defender! He can be a defensive anchor for a team. And he absolutely has DPOY or first team all defense potential at the minimum. :wink:
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Post#147 » by RedIndian » Mon May 31, 2021 5:47 pm

bwgood77 wrote:I think we just use our spot on a very nice backup big who is ready and should be available around our range. This guy is a very good defensive big who averages over 4 blocks per game along with 10+ rebounds and is a 4 year guy so will be 22 and probably immediately ready for some backup minutes like Mikal and Cam were coming in at that age.



I mentioned him and showed his stats in another page, but here they are again.

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Do you think a rookie big will crack our playoff rotation? We drafted a big this year, and we barely played him 5 minutes all season. Bigs take longer to develop, understand defensive rotations and eliminate mistakes. Queta is a nice prospect and even though he's a 3r d year player, I wouldn't be happy having him as our primary backup big. Makes more sense to pursue a veteran big like Howard, Noel, Dieng, Whiteside, Dedmon or even RoLo in FA.

I really do think we need to prepare for a future beyond CP at some point. I'd be targeting a combo scoring guard or a PG if available.
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Re: 2021 Draft 

Post#148 » by bwgood77 » Mon May 31, 2021 7:25 pm

RedIndian wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:I think we just use our spot on a very nice backup big who is ready and should be available around our range. This guy is a very good defensive big who averages over 4 blocks per game along with 10+ rebounds and is a 4 year guy so will be 22 and probably immediately ready for some backup minutes like Mikal and Cam were coming in at that age.



I mentioned him and showed his stats in another page, but here they are again.

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Do you think a rookie big will crack our playoff rotation? We drafted a big this year, and we barely played him 5 minutes all season. Bigs take longer to develop, understand defensive rotations and eliminate mistakes. Queta is a nice prospect and even though he's a 3r d year player, I wouldn't be happy having him as our primary backup big. Makes more sense to pursue a veteran big like Howard, Noel, Dieng, Whiteside, Dedmon or even RoLo in FA.

I really do think we need to prepare for a future beyond CP at some point. I'd be targeting a combo scoring guard or a PG if available.


My position has always been to start to prepare for life post CP3, so that's actually my first option if we can make a good pick. There have been some good PGs taken pretty late. (Brogdon, Lowry, Dragic) but watching this series just made me think of that backup big position..and getting a guy that would be cheap for the foreseeable future. And a guy that's ready. He is a senior and premier defender, shot blocker and finisher.

However, it seems like it can be easy to find and it's good to have a vet big if possible. Now, you could say the same at PG but they are a lot more pricey, so if we can nail a pick after our last two picks in Jerome (which was higher than our pick this year) and Smith (who I am still high on but the jury is still out), then we should do so.

I haven't really researched and looked at the writeups and videos much posted here yet and will do so closer to the draft. I know I wanted Butler when I thougth we'd pick around 20, before we went on our last half season surge, but after that and Baylor winning it all, I seriously double he makes it to 20 and maybe not 15.

I'd trade Saric to move up like Minnesota did though if it got us a lot better player. Kind of doubt Monty would though and my guess is they want to add vets as upgrades as opposed to rookies.

BUT at the same time, the more rookie contracts when you are going to have 4 big salaries, the better, especially if you may also give Payne a doube digit per year or close contract.

But yeah, all in all, a rookie big should not really crack it if we don't mind going small like we did with Crowder/Craig in there at the big spots like we did yesterday late for a few minutes when Ayton sits...and more importantly, if Jalen Smith is ready, which he should be with a semi regular offseason. Hope they have a summer camp.

But we should have some sort of plan in place in the case of an Ayton injury as well.
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Re: 2021 Draft 

Post#149 » by Ghost of Kleine » Tue Jun 1, 2021 4:18 am

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bwgood77 wrote:I think we just use our spot on a very nice backup big who is ready and should be available around our range. This guy is a very good defensive big who averages over 4 blocks per game along with 10+ rebounds and is a 4 year guy so will be 22 and probably immediately ready for some backup minutes like Mikal and Cam were coming in at that age.

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I mentioned him and showed his stats in another page, but here they are again.

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Do you think a rookie big will crack our playoff rotation? We drafted a big this year, and we barely played him 5 minutes all season. Bigs take longer to develop, understand defensive rotations and eliminate mistakes. Queta is a nice prospect and even though he's a 3r d year player, I wouldn't be happy having him as our primary backup big. Makes more sense to pursue a veteran big like Howard, Noel, Dieng, Whiteside, Dedmon or even RoLo in FA.

I really do think we need to prepare for a future beyond CP at some point. I'd be targeting a combo scoring guard or a PG if available.


My position has always been to start to prepare for life post CP3, so that's actually my first option if we can make a good pick. There have been some good PGs taken pretty late. (Brogdon, Lowry, Dragic) but watching this series just made me think of that backup big position..and getting a guy that would be cheap for the foreseeable future. And a guy that's ready. He is a senior and premier defender, shot blocker and finisher.

However, it seems like it can be easy to find and it's good to have a vet big if possible. Now, you could say the same at PG but they are a lot more pricey, so if we can nail a pick after our last two picks in Jerome (which was higher than our pick this year) and Smith (who I am still high on but the jury is still out), then we should do so.

I haven't really researched and looked at the writeups and videos much posted here yet and will do so closer to the draft. I know I wanted Butler when I thougth we'd pick around 20, before we went on our last half season surge, but after that and Baylor winning it all, I seriously double he makes it to 20 and maybe not 15.

I'd trade Saric to move up like Minnesota did though if it got us a lot better player. Kind of doubt Monty would though and my guess is they want to add vets as upgrades as opposed to rookies.

BUT at the same time, the more rookie contracts when you are going to have 4 big salaries, the better, especially if you may also give Payne a doube digit per year or close contract.

But yeah, all in all, a rookie big should not really crack it if we don't mind going small like we did with Crowder/Craig in there at the big spots like we did yesterday late for a few minutes when Ayton sits...and more importantly, if Jalen Smith is ready, which he should be with a semi regular offseason. Hope they have a summer camp.

But we should have some sort of plan in place in the case of an Ayton injury as well.
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Great points as always man! And even though it's true that as a playoff team, We don't currently offer that much playing time to our rookies, It's still very important to maintain that consistent influx of talent at the lowest possible cost, As well as plan for our post CP future which is definitely coming. The beauty of the draft being that as a late first or 2nd round prospect ( * If we so choose), The financial / (contractual obligation) will be minimal. We'd also have the opportunity for a draft snd stash if there's a high potential/ yet raw prospect that can be ready and more developed to contribute around the time Paul leaves!

Also, as you pointed out, With the likelihood of having 4 or more players with heavy salary commitments, It becomes critically important to fill out our roster with cheaper contracts and talent, in order to not only replenish our asset cache for potential trades, But also to more importantly try and maintain some modicum of cap flexibility for needed roster alterations ( If necessary)!

Now, As for trading Saric, I'm in agreement with that of course, As he just isn't consistent enough to be counted upon and he along with Kaminsky both become a huge defensive liability for us defensively and are borderline not negatives if they're not hitting their threes. I've actually ( to no one's surprise I'm sure) have already been working on some possible trades for Saric! ( On the trade board).

[url]viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2085629[/url]

Philly for instance offered something around Mike Scott or Shake Milton and the 28th pick.

And Indiana proposed something around Jeremy lamb and a 2nd or Lamb and Aaron Holiday I believe. Now either trade would give us an additional pick ( 2nd round to take a swing on a point guard prospect or a center prospect depending upon who we'd target with the 29th pick! But more importantly, either trade would save us the 3rd year of Darios' salary. As both Scott and Lamb's deals would expire around the Same time as Paul's contract too! :wink:

Now two other trades that I proposed were:
Phoenix/ Toronto: Saric and Carter for Rodney Hood Freddie Gillsepie And the 46th pick (Memphis).
https://tradenba.com/trades/hLVOEv2vZ

The other was Phoenix/ Detroit:
Saric for Mason Plumlee and the 37th pick (Toronto). Or Saric and Carter for Cory Joseph and the 37th pick ( Toronto). Cory Josephs' contract would also expire around the same time as Paul's deal as well! :wink:

https://tradenba.com/trades/lBEhQmqYO
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Post#150 » by RunDogGun » Wed Jun 2, 2021 1:12 am

That Sam kid will need two jerseys to fit that last name on it.
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Post#151 » by Ghost of Kleine » Wed Jun 2, 2021 5:36 pm

RunDogGun wrote:That Sam kid will need two jerseys to fit that last name on it.


Sam kid? Do you mean Sam Hauser man? :dontknow:
Any prospects that you like so far, That stand out to you, or you may consider to be a good positional fit? I've found that there happen to be quite a few high quality, versatile, cost effective options that could/ should be able to contribute quickly, With respect to their individual skillsets/ talents. Also some high end " under the radar talents that we may be able to pilfer and develop cheaply. Or some potential very high end unique talents that we could draft and stash for development to be ready to join our core and contribute post Chris Paul too! :D
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Post#152 » by Ghost of Kleine » Wed Jun 2, 2021 5:38 pm

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Post#153 » by Ghost of Kleine » Wed Jun 2, 2021 7:50 pm

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

Not really enthusiastic about our projected selection in this mock! As I believe that there are far better selections available than this one. But maybe it'll change towards a more proper selection and optimal fit for our needs on the next one!
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Post#154 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 2, 2021 8:09 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

Not really enthusiastic about our projected selection in this mock! As I believe that there are far better selections available than this one. But maybe it'll change towards a more proper selection and optimal fit for our needs on the next one!


That would really suck if Jared Butler went 1 pick before ours. And if he is there, we BETTER not pass on him.
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Post#155 » by Ghost of Kleine » Wed Jun 2, 2021 11:55 pm

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Ghost of Kleine wrote:https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

Not really enthusiastic about our projected selection in this mock! As I believe that there are far better selections available than this one. But maybe it'll change towards a more proper selection and optimal fit for our needs on the next one!


That would really suck if Jared Butler went 1 pick before ours. And if he is there, we BETTER not pass on him.


Agree completely!
I have Butler as 1 on our point guard big board at 29. Dosunma 2nd, Tre Mann 3rd so far consequently! My biggest concern is also that a team takes him right before we pick! But an even bigger shot to the beanbags would obviously be if one of the Flakers, Clippers or Brooklyn drafted him before us! :-? That would be a big letdown for sure! I also have my concerns over Queta already rising beyond us at 24 currently! And for sure I expect him to rise ahead of us after he showcases out at the combine!

I could totally see a team like the Knicks at 21, The rockets at 24, Or the perhaps Denver taking him at 26 if he shows out prior to the draft! I'm really curious if Boston with the recent front office changes, Might be willing to do a deal for Saric and the 16th pick if we take back an equal salary contract and perhaps swap picks? :dontknow:

https://tradenba.com/trades/seXhhKkec
Dario Saric and the 29th pick for Tristan Thompson and the 16th pick? The premise being that Dario would help them to somewhat open the floor up more for Kemba, Jalen, Tatum, etc. And Dario could spend spot minutes as a floor spacing 5 for them as well. Also, they move back to save salary, as they already have plenty of rookies and young players to develop. And moving down obviously saves them a few million more of cap space!

For us it's a no brainer! Saric just hasn't been very good in his role here! Thompson would shore up our rebounding a bit more. ** He would also expire the same time as Paul does, giving us more flexibility towards free agency and our looming extensions as well. Lastly, The bonus of jumping to 16, Would pretty much guarantee us the availability of Butler or Queta, Or even another higher tier option? One of Butler, Cooper, perhaps even Giddy if he were to slide a bit! Or perhaps one of Garuba, Jones, Jackson, Brown, Queta??? before any of those other teams!

Or perhaps we just fo a deal of Saric for Thompson and their 45th pick? Still save salary off of Sarics' 3rd yr. And double up in the draft with a point guard at 29 and a center at 45, Or vice versa?
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Re: 2021 Draft 

Post#156 » by Frank Lee » Thu Jun 3, 2021 1:40 am

I disagree with yall’s non big selections.... IMO, often expressed in other threads 8-) , we need rim protection, defense, athleticism ....back up legit c .... I think we will sign PAyne, Craig to 3 yr deals, Nader on a one with team option. Keep Saric, release Shank (or not). We wont need a PG nor any wings, and we certainly have enough scoring power.... So draft a kid center. There is a good list, 4-5 guys who are big and long... some ridiculously long.

Badji
Cockburn
Obiagu
Hukporti

To name enough (a few)

This is the type of player I think we need. We cant expect to improve that spot vis FAs as the list is pathetic... and our trade chips just aren’t valuable. This is an easy fix for 10-15 mins of smallness when Ayton sits.

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Re: 2021 Draft 

Post#157 » by Ghost of Kleine » Thu Jun 3, 2021 4:35 am

Frank is absolutely right about us needing size, Athleticism, length and strong rim protection for our backup 5 options. He's also very right that the current free agency list is not all that enticing either! With interest in our looming extensions, As well as the need to extend Paul for continued success now that we're legitimate playoff contenders, We need to minimize our contractual obligations throughout the roster as much as possible!

Luckily, The draft will afford us the greatest value in terms of financial flexibility AND contractual control. Whilst also helping us replenish our assets cache with low cost/ high value tradable talent ( IF necessary)!
Now again, Frank pointed out some stellar options for rim protection/ rebounding in our frontcourt.

I'll now also offer two very unique, Very versatile multipositional 3 and D forwards as well for your perusing and considerations. I chose these two particular prospects, because they are projected in the range of late 2nd to undrafted currently. So their diverse skillsets would be tremendous value for us positionally as we seek to contend further!!! :nod:

1- JT Thor- (Auburn)
Thor is 6'10 205 lb. With a 7'3 wingspan. He's a really athletic, high energy multipositional 3 and D forward/ small ball center. He literally can do almost anything on the court. He does obviously need to bulk up a bit and get more polish. But he projects to have a floor of a high end Al Fariq aminu and a ceiling of Pascal Siakim. ** I think he'd be great as a small ball interchangeable 4/5 alongside of Smith. Especially after Paul leaves and if we decide to push the pace faster, As has been very effective for us in these playoffs!

https://zonahoops.com/2021/05/04/jt-thor-nba-scouting-report/


2- Rayquan Gray-
Rayquan is a 6'8 260 lb combo forward in the mold of Draymond Green. He's incredibly versatile for his size. He has the post game and build of a power forward, But he's also a very skilled ball-handler and playmaking big with explosiveness, and versatile defense as well. He has a floor of PJ Tucker on steroids AND a ceiling of Draymond Green!

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/11/04/draft-notes-shoutout-raiquan-gray-others-low/


Either of these prospects would provide tremendous value as draft and stash or two way candidates to be developed in the GLeague, Whilst our current team competes in the playoffs! Then after a yr or so of NBA level professional strength and conditioning, AND seasoning and experience, Bring them on to further add to our tremendous depth and versatility! :D
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Re: 2021 Draft 

Post#158 » by Ghost of Kleine » Mon Jun 7, 2021 6:08 pm

Mike Schmitz (@Mike_Schmitz) Tweeted:
Pepperdine forward Kessler Edwards showing off his shooting stroke in Santa Barbara. The 6-8, 20-year-old is coming off a big junior season in Malibu: 16.9 PTS, 6.7 REBS, 1.1 BLK in 33.5 MIN while shooting 54% from 2 and 38% from 3. Great combination of size, length and shooting. https://t.co/LyqeLd6fPR
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Re: 2021 Draft 

Post#159 » by Ghost of Kleine » Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:08 pm

The Analyst (@OptaAnalyst) Tweeted:
It's tough for teams to nail the #NBADraft. Giannis went 15th overall. Jokic went in the second round. But what if you could use advanced data to find which NBA players are most similar to this year's prospects?

We used our NBA draft model to do just that. ⬇️
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Interesting read!

Not sure about using a comparison scale to accurately determine potential value or projections. But skillset correlation may perhaps some relevance depending upon external situational factors?
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Re: 2021 Draft 

Post#160 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:02 am

Jonathan Wasserman (@NBADraftWass) Tweeted:
Separated prospects into positional groups, ranked top 5 in each: Primary ball-handlers, Secondary combo guards, Traditional 2-guards, Traditional SFs, Interchangeable wings, Combo forwards, Face-up 4s and Bigs https://t.co/UOdpUAHiIk
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