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Game 50: Brooklyn Nets (29-20) vs Phoenix Suns (40-9)

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Who should be in the all-star game (besides Booker/Paul)?

Bridges
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Ayton
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Neither
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45%
 
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Re: Game 50: Brooklyn Nets (29-20) vs Phoenix Suns (40-9) 

Post#141 » by Maze » Wed Feb 2, 2022 4:21 am

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I'm always on him hard for lazy rebounding and a lack of effort when doing so. Always. You know this, so don't act as though it's new thing. Dude has stone hands and exhibits lax effort a lot. I've never once said anything about him stat padding though, so I'll let that one roll off because it's for someone else.

I'll continue to be critical of him when he plays soft. That goes for anyone else on the team, too. I don't ask nor expect you to agree and I'm sure the same can be said of yours posts as well.

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If you're gonna bash him, bash him for getting lost on the defensive end. That's where we're getting killed. Switches and adjustments. Him straying towards getting back on D as opposed to snatch rebounds isn't bad.



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He's less lost this season than he was the past two, so it's good he's finally getting it. He routinely gets lost and turned around and that's happened a couple times already.

We do need him as McGee and Biyombo aren't going to really get it done on the regular, but those two do well in his absence because they play things a bit differently. Those two just clean up and clear out off whatever comes their way. Ayton seems to need feeding.

We have a luxury many teams do not and while Ayton frustrates me quite often, he does well enough in most instances.

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Ayton just seems like a naturally aloof kind of guy.It can be frustrating at times
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Re: Game 50: Brooklyn Nets (29-20) vs Phoenix Suns (40-9) 

Post#142 » by MrMiyagi » Wed Feb 2, 2022 4:23 am

lilfishi22 wrote:I'm sure if you watch enough of Draymond, Gobert or any other DPOY level defensive anchors, you'll see multiple times every game where they get a step slow on a rotation, slow on a recovery or pace themselves by not jumping at every shot attempt.
Big moments matter more. DA has shown he shows up in big moments. All I care about.
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Re: Game 50: Brooklyn Nets (29-20) vs Phoenix Suns (40-9) 

Post#143 » by RunDogGun » Wed Feb 2, 2022 4:24 am

lilfishi22 wrote:I'm sure if you watch enough of Draymond, Gobert or any other DPOY level defensive anchors, you'll see multiple times every game where they get a step slow on a rotation, slow on a recovery or pace themselves by not jumping at every shot attempt. And these are guys who have been in the league for a long time.

True, but for me, if I finally got to play again, I would be so jazzed to be on the court again. I guess I was just expecting a hungry player, and I don't mean a fat Diaw after he got the huge contract. :lol:
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Re: Game 50: Brooklyn Nets (29-20) vs Phoenix Suns (40-9) 

Post#144 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Feb 2, 2022 4:25 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:I'm sure if you watch enough of Draymond, Gobert or any other DPOY level defensive anchors, you'll see multiple times every game where they get a step slow on a rotation, slow on a recovery or pace themselves by not jumping at every shot attempt.
Big moments matter more. DA has shown he shows up in big moments. All I care about.

That's what he should be paid on. That's a big reason why it frustrated me when he didn't get the extension.
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Re: Game 50: Brooklyn Nets (29-20) vs Phoenix Suns (40-9) 

Post#145 » by Slim Charless » Wed Feb 2, 2022 4:26 am

lilfishi22 wrote:I'm sure if you watch enough of Draymond, Gobert or any other DPOY level defensive anchors, you'll see multiple times every game where they get a step slow on a rotation, slow on a recovery or pace themselves by not jumping at every shot attempt. And these are guys who have been in the league for a long time.


Ayton can actually switch onto guards and wings as well. 3 time DPOTY Rudy Gobert can't say that. Despite his less than steller showing tonight, I still think Ayton can get that. It's easier for a big to get it than a wing.

A couple games like the ones he had in our playoff run will help. Plus, unlike Barkley, Shaq actually likes the Suns and praises them on television. I think Ayton would get some push if he turns it up in the 2nd half of the season.
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Re: Game 50: Brooklyn Nets (29-20) vs Phoenix Suns (40-9) 

Post#146 » by MrMiyagi » Wed Feb 2, 2022 4:26 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:I'm sure if you watch enough of Draymond, Gobert or any other DPOY level defensive anchors, you'll see multiple times every game where they get a step slow on a rotation, slow on a recovery or pace themselves by not jumping at every shot attempt. And these are guys who have been in the league for a long time.

True, but for me, if I finally got to play again, I would be so jazzed to be on the court again. I guess I was just expecting a hungry player, and I don't mean a fat Diaw after he got the huge contract.
Let's be real, if most of us twisted an ankle, we'd probably lapse out of whatever fitness routines we have for an embarrassing amount of time, let alone being able to compete against some of the best athletes in the world.
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Re: Game 50: Brooklyn Nets (29-20) vs Phoenix Suns (40-9) 

Post#147 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Feb 2, 2022 4:27 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:I'm sure if you watch enough of Draymond, Gobert or any other DPOY level defensive anchors, you'll see multiple times every game where they get a step slow on a rotation, slow on a recovery or pace themselves by not jumping at every shot attempt. And these are guys who have been in the league for a long time.

True, but for me, if I finally got to play again, I would be so jazzed to be on the court again. I guess I was just expecting a hungry player, and I don't mean a fat Diaw after he got the huge contract. :lol:

The guy was gasping for air at the free line in the 1st quarter. You can do as much conditioning as you can off the court but in-game conditioning is a different animal. Again, it's not something I care to get frustrated about in his first game back after missing like a month or whatever.
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Re: Game 50: Brooklyn Nets (29-20) vs Phoenix Suns (40-9) 

Post#148 » by Slim Charless » Wed Feb 2, 2022 4:27 am

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He's less lost this season than he was the past two, so it's good he's finally getting it. He routinely gets lost and turned around and that's happened a couple times already.

We do need him as McGee and Biyombo aren't going to really get it done on the regular, but those two do well in his absence because they play things a bit differently. Those two just clean up and clear out off whatever comes their way. Ayton seems to need feeding.

We have a luxury many teams do not and while Ayton frustrates me quite often, he does well enough in most instances.

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For all the haters we have zero chance of winning a championship without Ayton, that's just facts.
Zero chance? Facts? Uh, okay. We definitely have a chance, but it's diminished significantly without him but that's why you have a supply of other supporting players. It's a team game last I checked.

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Exactly a 0.0 chance.
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Re: Game 50: Brooklyn Nets (29-20) vs Phoenix Suns (40-9) 

Post#149 » by MrMiyagi » Wed Feb 2, 2022 4:28 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:I'm sure if you watch enough of Draymond, Gobert or any other DPOY level defensive anchors, you'll see multiple times every game where they get a step slow on a rotation, slow on a recovery or pace themselves by not jumping at every shot attempt.
Big moments matter more. DA has shown he shows up in big moments. All I care about.

That's what he should be paid on. That's a big reason why it frustrated me when he didn't get the extension.
The Valley-Oop was enough for me to be fine with him getting a Max.
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Re: Game 50: Brooklyn Nets (29-20) vs Phoenix Suns (40-9) 

Post#150 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Feb 2, 2022 4:29 am

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Re: Game 50: Brooklyn Nets (29-20) vs Phoenix Suns (40-9) 

Post#151 » by bwoolf2 » Wed Feb 2, 2022 4:29 am

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RunDogGun wrote:Couldn't he swim? I mean there are so many pools in AZ, and at every high end hotel. He can't make Griffin look like he is a young Griffin.


You ever play ball real ball, swimming running, it ain't the same not even close

Ha, played since I was 10, and swimming since I was 5. There are tons of things you can do in the pool that doesn't put weight on your ankle, but gives you great exercise.


Bro no one is saying they aren't good exercise but swimming and all the other things aren't the same as playing an nba game you ain't swimming and doing whatever else then coming back into an nba level game and being 100 just ain't happening
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Re: Game 50: Brooklyn Nets (29-20) vs Phoenix Suns (40-9) 

Post#152 » by Slim Charless » Wed Feb 2, 2022 4:29 am

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Re: Game 50: Brooklyn Nets (29-20) vs Phoenix Suns (40-9) 

Post#153 » by Hsker4Life » Wed Feb 2, 2022 4:30 am

Bad shots by Book to open the quarter.
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Re: Game 50: Brooklyn Nets (29-20) vs Phoenix Suns (40-9) 

Post#154 » by RunDogGun » Wed Feb 2, 2022 4:30 am

MrMiyagi wrote:
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lilfishi22 wrote:I'm sure if you watch enough of Draymond, Gobert or any other DPOY level defensive anchors, you'll see multiple times every game where they get a step slow on a rotation, slow on a recovery or pace themselves by not jumping at every shot attempt. And these are guys who have been in the league for a long time.

True, but for me, if I finally got to play again, I would be so jazzed to be on the court again. I guess I was just expecting a hungry player, and I don't mean a fat Diaw after he got the huge contract.
Let's be real, if most of us twisted an ankle, we'd probably lapse out of whatever fitness routines we have for an embarrassing amount of time, let alone being able to compete against some of the best athletes in the world.

True, but I twisted my ankle terribly at the gym, and kept playing because I knew I would be out for a while. Couldn't shoot, but oddly grabbed a few rebounds.

Plus most if not all of us don't get paid millions to stay in shape to play a game. :nod:
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Post#155 » by bwoolf2 » Wed Feb 2, 2022 4:30 am

Man I hate this nets team a bunch of little bitches
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Re: Game 50: Brooklyn Nets (29-20) vs Phoenix Suns (40-9) 

Post#156 » by RedIndian » Wed Feb 2, 2022 4:31 am

Ayton struggling with his conditioning. Crowder out of rhythm too. Our D hasn't looked on point today at all either.
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Re: Game 50: Brooklyn Nets (29-20) vs Phoenix Suns (40-9) 

Post#157 » by SkyBill40 » Wed Feb 2, 2022 4:31 am

Three dumb plays:

* Booker with a 30 foot brick

* Paul with a gimme miss because he didn't use the backboard up close

* Ayton with a stupid foul (a soft call)


We've sacrificed our lead but it's the third so I guess this isn't all that surprising. Booker keeps chucking away.




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Re: Game 50: Brooklyn Nets (29-20) vs Phoenix Suns (40-9) 

Post#158 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Feb 2, 2022 4:31 am

Our defense doesn't seem totally in sync right now
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Post#159 » by RunDogGun » Wed Feb 2, 2022 4:32 am

And when they review this, will they change the call to a flop?
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Re: Game 50: Brooklyn Nets (29-20) vs Phoenix Suns (40-9) 

Post#160 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Feb 2, 2022 4:32 am

Book is cold. Nobody can cool Booker's hot hand as well as Monty

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