2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV

Fo-Real · Post #141 » by **Fo-Real** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 7:14 pm

dremill24 wrote:Who gets more minutes moving forward, Dunn or Martin?

Would have to be Dunn. Martin is just here to cut to save money in the summer.

BobbieL · Post #142 » by **BobbieL** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 7:17 pm

Fo-Real wrote:
dremill24 wrote:Who gets more minutes moving forward, Dunn or Martin?

Would have to be Dunn. Martin is just here to cut to save money in the summer.

Has to be Dunn - he is part of the future.

dremill24 · Post #143 » by **dremill24** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 7:23 pm

BobbieL wrote:
Fo-Real wrote:
dremill24 wrote:Who gets more minutes moving forward, Dunn or Martin?

Would have to be Dunn. Martin is just here to cut to save money in the summer.

Has to be Dunn - he is part of the future.

I hope you're right but i asked who gets them, not who should :wink:

Im not so sure lol

BobbieL · Post #144 » by **BobbieL** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 7:33 pm

So the Suns have made three trades

Traded a very valuable 2031 for three FRPs

Traded Okogie for Richards - good trade

Traded Nurk for two players who they can release but it cost a FRP
---but saves Ishbia a bunch of money (who cares) but gets them below the second apron this summer - thats a big deal

But until the Suns truly move forward with a rebuild - and that starts with "35+1" - this will be the moves. Fringe moves aroiund the cap. Nothing that moves the damn needle!

sunsbum · Post #145 » by **sunsbum** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 7:40 pm

Booker doesn’t need to be traded quite yet, nor do I want to see him traded. He’s having a down year and can’t figure out how to mesh with this roster, it’s not his fault. A good team can be built around him. KD needs to go but they should have pulled the trigger on a Butler Kumanga/picks package.

KdoubleDees23 · Post #146 » by **KdoubleDees23** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 7:42 pm

Did we get the worse twin out of cody and caleb? I wonder if we can get them to switch roles and we just have the better twin come play for us.

Slim Charless · Post #147 » by **Slim Charless** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 8:00 pm

Shams basically said that we're having an open house this summer if we can't turn it around. Sooooo Booker and Durant is what that means.

Slim Charless · Post #148 » by **Slim Charless** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 8:03 pm

Suns mediocrity (make the play-in and lose or make the playoffs and get swept) and Houston/OKC/ORL losses in the early part of the playoffs is what I'm rootin for the rest of the season.

Slim Charless · Post #149 » by **Slim Charless** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 8:06 pm

sunsbum wrote:Booker doesn’t need to be traded quite yet, nor do I want to see him traded. He’s having a down year and can’t figure out how to mesh with this roster, it’s not his fault. A good team can be built around him. KD needs to go but they should have pulled the trigger on a Butler Kumanga/picks package.

No they should not have. This summer we can do better. Moving KD just to have to pay Jimmy and Kuminga would suck. OKC and HOU will be ripe for picking once they lose in the playoffs.

TeamTragic · Post #150 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:22 pm

Martin/Micic are not coming back. Waiving them both puts this team under the second apron.

At least there is one positive which means we can actually aggregate salaries.

grumpysaddle · Post #151 » by **grumpysaddle** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:22 pm

All I can say is I'm glad I started watching the Knicks more often again. If I only liked the Suns, it would be super depressing.

Post #152 » by **Qwigglez** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:24 pm

Micic is basically the 2nd coming of Steve Nash for the Suns. Watch him carve up the defenses and be the Suns starting PG! He's the PG we needed.

Biff · Post #153 » by **Biff** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:24 pm

If Booker has any interest in winning he will ask out this summer. We have next to no assets and unless we get guys taking team friendly deals because they just love Phoenix, we are looking at another 5-6 years of absolute mediocrity. The best thing we can do for the franchise is trade Booker and KD and try to get some of our picks back and let Beal be the tank commander.

TeamTragic · Post #154 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:25 pm

Biff wrote:If Booker has any interest in winning he will ask out this summer. We have next to no assets and unless we get guys taking team friendly deals because they just love Phoenix, we are looking at another 5-6 years of absolute mediocrity. The best thing we can do for the franchise is trade Booker and KD and try to get some of our picks back and let Beal be the tank commander.

Beal is the perfect tank commander. **** loser.

BobbieL · Post #155 » by **BobbieL** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:25 pm

Slim Charless wrote:Shams basically said that we're having an open house this summer if we can't turn it around. Sooooo Booker and Durant is what that means.

Glad to see RealGM working

Yes the Suns need a new GM for one thing

Open house should mean Book and KD are open to trade

As for the rest of the year - see what happens . I think they kind of implode

BobbieL · Post #156 » by **BobbieL** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:27 pm

Biff wrote:If Booker has any interest in winning he will ask out this summer. We have next to no assets and unless we get guys taking team friendly deals because they just love Phoenix, we are looking at another 5-6 years of absolute mediocrity. The best thing we can do for the franchise is trade Booker and KD and try to get some of our picks back and let Beal be the tank commander.

Agree. Book needs to ask out. Durant already will be shopped

Beal next year might be the only starter back

Team needs to play Dunn and Oso a lot

Sunsdeuce · Post #157 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:32 pm

What a disaster. That’s all I have to say about the Suns organization right now.

TeamTragic · Post #158 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:32 pm

BobbieL wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:Shams basically said that we're having an open house this summer if we can't turn it around. Sooooo Booker and Durant is what that means.

Glad to see RealGM working

Yes the Suns need a new GM for one thing

Open house should mean Book and KD are open to trade

As for the rest of the year - see what happens . I think they kind of implode

Why did Ishbia even keep Jones? It blows my mind.

Sunsdeuce · Post #159 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:35 pm

If Ishbia cares about this team…KD and Booker will be traded day one of the new season! Find people who actually care more about winning than their personal stats. Booker and his one and only skill set of open midrange jumpers will fit nicely on another team!

BobbieL · Post #160 » by **BobbieL** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:36 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:If Ishbia cares about this team…KD and Booker will be traded day one of the new season! Find people who actually care more about winning than their personal stats. Booker and his one skill set of open midrange jumpers will fit nicely on another team!

Possibly can attach Allen or ONeal since they will be under second apron - per Bobby Marks