2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part V

[Saberestar]

What a delusional s$&t show Ishbia is. He has no pieces to win with but thinks he’s going to fix the team next year by refusing to trade what he thinks is a superstar in Booker which by the way the rest of the league and nation wide fan base don’t think Booker is.

KD isn’t going to get Ishbia the same return that Ishbia gave up to get him. Beal will not way his no trade and rightfully so. It’s not Beal’s fault Ishbia is a complete moron. No reason for Beal to up root his family to accommodate Ishbias ego and low IQ. Plus Beal has almost no market value.

Ishbia was suppose to be a gift to this organization, he just turned out to be Sarver dressed in sheep’s wool!

Regarding Beal, he said a few interesting things on that article that open the door to negotiate next to him on different trade options in the summer.

Like Durant, Beal had no interest in having his life uprooted with a midseason trade. But Beal, whose longtime agent, Mark Bartelstein, is the Suns CEO's father, is open to considering other possibilities this offseason.

"It is a different deal in the summer," Beal said. "Everything is kind of more laid out on the table. You got more options."

That's just the typical agent speak/ lip service dude. Par for the course with no real change coming. It's to pacify certain groups frustrations nothing more. Come this summer everyone will see except of course Ishbia who's completely blind to the reality we're facing.

Why Beal himself is gonna talk agent speak/ lip service lol? He doesn't need it at all.

He has the final say on any trade proposal because of his NTC but at the same time he said what he said about a potential trade in the summer.

[Sunsdeuce]

I was hoping to get more in return for KD but I’m seeing more and more evidence KD isn’t going to get the Suns a sizable return at this point. No team is giving up key pieces to KD at this point.

Sources: The Timberwolves kept Jaden McDaniels out of Kevin Durant trade talks.

Phoenix Suns star Kevin Durant drew significant trade interest from several teams ahead of the deadline, including the Golden State Warriors, Miami Heat, Dallas Mavericks, Houston Rockets, Memphis Grizzlies, and Minnesota Timberwolves.

While Durant ultimately remained in Phoenix, he’s expected to come up again in trade discussions this offseason as he enters the final year of his contract worth $54.7 million for the 2025-26 season.

The Timberwolves aggressively pursued Durant in trade talks before the deadline and are expected to circle the wagon again this summer, but were unwilling to part with star guard Anthony Edwards and versatile forward Jaden McDaniels in discussions, league sources told HoopsHype.

Instead, Timberwolves forward Julius Randle and guard Donte DiVincenzo were discussed as part of trade talks for Durant, league sources told HoopsHype.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Mat Ishbia

"So what's the reason?" Ishbia said, rhetorically asking why the Suns have fallen so far short of expectations. "I don't have the answer. If I had the answer, I'd fix it right now.

"I still believe in our team. I still believe in Coach Budenholzer. I believe in the guys we have. And at the same time, at the end of the season, if we don't get to where we expect to get to, I'll have enough data and evidence that it didn't work or it did work. And then we'll make decisions based on that."

"It's been a really disappointing year. Very disappointed," Ishbia said. "There's not a person in the organization that doesn't feel that way. We had high expectations. We felt really good about where going into the season and we've not met any of those expectations. We've been well below what we all expected, and it's not anything close."

THERE IS ONE absolute certainty as the Suns approach what might be a summer of major change: Booker will not be traded.

"Never happen," Ishbia said, interrupting the question. "It's silly. So here's what I'll tell you: I have Devin Booker in the prime. In order to win an NBA championship, you got to have a superstar. You got to have a great player."

"It's surprising to me that other people, other fans, they actually like the rebuild process," Ishbia said, disdain dripping from his voice as the final word of that sentence comes out of his mouth. "Like, 'Oh, let's rebuild it.' Are you crazy?! You think I'm going to go for seven years and try to get there? You enjoy the 2030 draft picks that we have holding? I want to try to see the game today. I want us to win today, and we're going to try.

"Although let's say this doesn't work, guess what? Maybe next year we won't be as good, but we're going to try again. The next opportunity we have, we're going to try to win and compete. And it will work. We will win championships here in Phoenix. Might not be this year, but I promise you we are going to do it. And that's what we're focused on."

Barring a drastic late-season turnaround for the Suns, there is anticipation around the league that Phoenix will entertain trade offers for Durant again this summer.

"I'll just say that we're going to evaluate in the offseason," Ishbia said. "We're going to find a way to win, and it's probably a lot easier winning with Kevin Durant than without him. But at the same time, yes, if we're not good enough in this iteration of the Phoenix Suns, we're going to find a way to be better next year. "

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/44237621/next-kevin-durant-devin-booker-phoenix-suns

The article is much longer and I recommend to every fan to read it but I wanted to post some important excerpts.

Thanks for posting this, Saber It was truly a great read.

Makes me wonder if I should pare back my critique of Ishbia's mindset and approach. Perhaps there is merit in it despite the results we've experienced so far.

We traded our unprotected '31 for three weak picks... but looking at the best players in the league today and where they were drafted, perhaps he's not crazy.

Jokic #41
Gilgeous-Alexander #11
Giannis #15
Tatum #3
Doncic #3
Curry #7
James #1
Mitchell #13
Cunningham #1
Wembanyama #1
Durant #2
Davis #1
Edwards #1
Towns #1
Brunson #33
Mobley #3
Booker #13
Jaylen Brown #3
Haliburton #12
Sabonis #11

I've underlined the guys we had the opportunity to draft, and bolded the one we did.

The evidence suggests that if you want a superstar, the #1 pick is great, a #2-3 pick gives you a shot, there tends to be chances in the late-lotto every other year, and you're not completely without hope in the second round.

Tanking won't be an option for several years. I'll tune in next season if they can be, at least, intriguing. Good luck, Mat.

Lol ....... So none underlined and only one in Booker. And clearly we're not going to have a lottery pick in the next 10 years ( that Ishbia hasn't or won't give away). Also when was the last time we actually drafted a star from the 30th pick or later for this franchise man?

Your optimism is admirable even if it is severely misplaced. We won't even have a high pick because our picks will get moved to the end of the first round as a result of being over the 2nd apron. And I do get what you're saying about their being hope for identifying good players / talent in the 2nd round, because really, who focuses on that range here more than I do obsessively/ maniacally....lol.


But even then, Ishbia is just too delusional and arrogant to consider the draft as a legitimate mechanism for improvement. And if he decides to keep Budenholzer too, then the only youth we have will never play or yet the opportunity to develop anyways.

And yes you're right that tanking won't be an option for a couple of years ( honestly much longer) under Ishbia because Ishbia gave away pretty much all of our draft picks and other teams will be building their futures off of our struggles.

The inevitable reality that's going to smack many right in the face within the next 2-3 years is that Ishbia is pushing us into a helpless hopeless 10-20 yr rebuild cycle because of this very mentality.

The only thing that'll be remotely intriguing about this franchise going forward under Ishbia will be how much more he can keep destroying our future until the league actually steps in and forcibly removes him for unparalleled egregious front office mismanagement that'll push large portions of this fanbase away for years possibly longer.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Regarding Beal, he said a few interesting things on that article that open the door to negotiate next to him on different trade options in the summer.

That's just the typical agent speak/ lip service dude. Par for the course with no real change coming. It's to pacify certain groups frustrations nothing more. Come this summer everyone will see except of course Ishbia who's completely blind to the reality we're facing.

Why Beal himself is gonna talk agent speak/ lip service lol? He doesn't need it at all.

He has the final say on any trade proposal because of his NTC but at the same time he said what he said about a potential trade in the summer.

IMO he's not going to just come out and say he won't consider anything? He's going to dismay what needs to be said for optics from a professional position. When was the last time a player actually admitted that publicly? I'll be wildly surprised if there are any major news of Beal hiring agreeable to going elsewhere this summer man.

[BobbieL]

That's just the typical agent speak/ lip service dude. Par for the course with no real change coming. It's to pacify certain groups frustrations nothing more. Come this summer everyone will see except of course Ishbia who's completely blind to the reality we're facing.

Why Beal himself is gonna talk agent speak/ lip service lol? He doesn't need it at all.

He has the final say on any trade proposal because of his NTC but at the same time he said what he said about a potential trade in the summer.

IMO he's not going to just come out and say he won't consider anything? He's going to dismay what needs to be said for optics from a professional position. When was the last time a player actually admitted that publicly? I'll be wildly surprised if there are any major news of Beal hiring agreeable to going elsewhere this summer man.

I am fine seeing what Durant trade brings but if being honest, the return for Booker can make the team better to me. They will be in that mid zone. Just good enough to not be bad but not good enough to do anything in the playoffs

I think he is delusional to not consider it and if book truly wants to win, he asks for a trade

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

All except two on this list of top 30 players in the league were drafted in the top 15 picks (most were drafted in the top 5) in their respective drafts. If you are counting on drafting a star with the 25th pic in the draft or a second round pick, well I have oceanfront property to sell you in Gilbert, Arizona right now. That’s delusional thinking.

Jokic #41
Gilgeous-Alexander #11
Giannis #15
Tatum #3
Doncic #3
Curry #7
James #1
Mitchell #13
Cunningham #1
Wembanyama #1
Durant #2
Davis #1
Edwards #1
Towns #1
Brunson #33
Mobley #3
Booker #13
Jaylen Brown #3
Haliburton #12
Sabonis #11

The point is Ishbia is a delusional moron. To be blunt.

For fun, I've highlighted in red the players who are not with the team that drafted them.

[Puff]

Would we be entertaining a trade for Booker without Beal dragging the whole team down. Without him and his NTC we could be a far better team with KD and Book. Gambo made a comment the other day as to what is really wrong with this team. He said that it is not the big three that is the problem but the guys we have at 4-7. I think that is really the problem. Which of these guys are any good.

Richards
Allen
O'Neale
Jones

These guys really do virtually nothing to help us win games. Or is it that we have the big three dominating everything we do and they do not get a chance to succeed in Bud's system? I see signs of Richards being useful going forward. Allen, O'Neale and Jones are just not very good. They should not be in your top 7, if you want to win basketball games. Allen has a contract almost as toxic as Beal, so we are stuck with him for the next 3 years, we may have a taker for O'Neale and Jones will be out of here. I expect that we will keep Richards.

The question is how are we going to get better in the 4 through 7. We would have had the room to add better players if it were not for the Beal trade. Now we are stuck with him for the following two years. It appears that we are going to trade KD. That is unfortunate because he is not the problem. Beal is the problem. If it would take Dunn to get rid of Beal's contract I would do it. If that trade happens as well as the KD trade, we must upgrade 2 through 7. It could be another off season of drastic turnover. That is not the way normal teams get better.

The big albatross is Bud. He really has to go. We need a new younger, probably black, head coach that can better relate to our players and hold them accountable.

We also are missing one position of dramatic need. Let's call it a tough guy that plays defense and holds everyone accountable. Not all these guys held folks accountable but at the very least they led by example. Here is a short list of those guys that wore a suns uniform. A vocal leader on the defensive end or the court.

CP3
Okogie
Mikal
Thunder Dan
The Matrix
Jay Crowder
P J Tucker
Raja Bell

In virtually every losing season for the past 2 decades, prior to CP3/Jay Crowder, we did not have a leader on the defensive end and we still do not have that guy. In any trade to Houston, I think we need to focus on getting Dillon Brooks.

Again, it is unfortunate that we are having to trade KD. While I hated the trade for him, I do not put the blame on the duo of Book and KD for our failures. That appears to be an ideal duo. The rest of the roster just sucks, and the coach is worse.

The real Culprit. Matt has to look in a mirror. He will see the real problem with our team.

[Sunsdeuce]

Would we be entertaining a trade for Booker without Beal dragging the whole team down. Without him and his NTC we could be a far better team with KD and Book. Gambo made a comment the other day as to what is really wrong with this team. He said that it is not the big three that is the problem but the guys we have at 4-7. I think that is really the problem. Which of these guys are any good.

Richards
Allen
O'Neale
Jones

These guys really do virtually nothing to help us win games. Or is it that we have the big three dominating everything we do and they do not get a chance to succeed in Bud's system? I see signs of Richards being useful going forward. Allen, O'Neale and Jones are just not very good. They should not be in your top 7, if you want to win basketball games. Allen has a contract almost as toxic as Beal, so we are stuck with him for the next 3 years, we may have a taker for O'Neale and Jones will be out of here. I expect that we will keep Richards.

The question is how are we going to get better in the 4 through 7. We would have had the room to add better players if it were not for the Beal trade. Now we are stuck with him for the following two years. It appears that we are going to trade KD. That is unfortunate because he is not the problem. Beal is the problem. If it would take Dunn to get rid of Beal's contract I would do it. If that trade happens as well as the KD trade, we must upgrade 2 through 7. It could be another off season of drastic turnover. That is not the way normal teams get better.

The big albatross is Bud. He really has to go. We need a new younger, probably black, head coach that can better relate to our players and hold them accountable.

We also are missing one position of dramatic need. Let's call it a tough guy that plays defense and holds everyone accountable. Not all these guys held folks accountable but at the very least they led by example. Here is a short list of those guys that wore a suns uniform. A vocal leader on the defensive end or the court.

CP3
Okogie
Mikal
Thunder Dan
The Matrix
Jay Crowder
P J Tucker
Raja Bell

In virtually every losing season for the past 2 decades, prior to CP3/Jay Crowder, we did not have a leader on the defensive end and we still do not have that guy. In any trade to Houston, I think we need to focus on getting Dillon Brooks.

Again, it is unfortunate that we are having to trade KD. While I hated the trade for him, I do not put the blame on the duo of Book and KD for our failures. That appears to be an ideal duo. The rest of the roster just sucks, and the coach is worse.

The real Culprit. Matt has to look in a mirror. He will see the real problem with our team.

I’m sorry but Gambo is wrong on this. The problem is 100% the big three. The problem with them is they are the same versions of each other in different bodies. Beal and Booker are essentially the same exact player. They both are clones of each other. KD is just a taller and lankier. But they all do the same things. They all love the mid range. None of them excel at distribution of the ball. None of them will ever be considered “elite defenders”. None of them ar elite rebounders for their size.

Point is, you can’t win when your big three are clones of each other. There is no diversity between the three. Miami’s big three were nothing alike style wise (Wade, Bosh, LeBron).

And Lastly, Star players make scrubs around them better. That’s what true stars do. MJ turned Luc Longley into a serviceable center and Longley sucked as soon as he left the Bulls.

You ain’t getting anything outside of the “Big three” because this “Big Three” offer nothing to make players around them better. Bottomline, this “Big three” is 100% the problem.

[Ghost of Kleine]

I agree this team can be better next season if we can turn Durant into pieces that fit. But contending? Seems like a pipe dream. If we get some picks and youth in the deal, I'll feel much better about it.

Bottom line is that if we don't offer Booker to HOU, we can't tank right now. So my wish list:

1. I will feel much better about this franchise's direction if we can get some quality youth in return, as well as pick or two. (After all, what player other than Booker on this roster will ever be worth a future pick?)
2. Please, do not trade any more unprotected future FRPs.
3. If we can save some money by trading Beal, fine. Otherwise, we will have to find a way for him and Booker to coexist on a functional roster.
4. Draft a point guard. I wanted Collier in last year's draft.

On that last point - GOK, are there any PG prospects with jets I might reasonably hope for? I really like CMB by the way. My comp is Paul Millsap based on the 4 minutes of highlights I watched.

A quiz for anyone still reading. Without looking it up, who do you think has the fourth-highest PPG for the Suns this season? The only hint I can give you is, it's a tight race!

Aside from maybe Boogie Fland, who's basically a 6'2 undersized version of Kemba Walker/ Cole Anthony, there's really not many, if any, good to really good lightning quick D Fox quick PGs with "Jets" that could offer elite downhill penetration/ breakdown iso ability. And even Fland isn't that, although he does show solid burst/ first step at times man. Honestly, outside of the lottery, I'm just not seeing enough justification to use one of our draft picks at 30 or 55 on a PG as there'll be plenty of solid options in the undrafted ranges for that need.

Honestly, the top selections for PG options I'd target would be:

1- Tyrese Proctor (53 range).
A 6'5 bigger version of Mike Conley with good shifty ballhandling, above the rim athleticism, defensive versatility, and very smooth shooting and advanced playmaking/ court vision potential shown. Very solid skillset with plus athleticism, but hasn't yet put it all together or shown elite potential.

2- Xavian Lee (undrafted range)
A very crafty, very shifty high IQ guard with smooth, crafty scoring and ballhandling, and with advanced/ flashy passing potential. Xavian Lee is a very shifty, crafty mix of Jeremy Lin and flashes of Steve Nash! But does still struggle scoring against size and athleticism.

3- Sion James (Undrafted range)
Marcus Smart/ Desmond Bane. A 6'6 220 lb power guard/wing with exceptional basketball IQ, strong versatile defense, top shelf athleticism, and great poise/ leadership. Just a powerful and very solid team captain type player, but hasn't shown any elite potential yet!

4- Garway Dual ( Undrafted range)
A 6'5-6'6 versatile, smooth, lanky, bouncy two-way guard with smooth scoring, strong defensive versatility, great vertical burst/ speed/ shiftiness and underrated playmaking. A mix of KPJr (offensively) and DeJounte Murray defensively.

5- Kadary Richmond (undrafted range)
A 6'6 physical versatile defensive playmaking guard wing that's not much of a shooter/ offensive threat, but is very strong and physical as a defender and who possesses impressive ballhandling and playmaking upside. Richmond is a mix of Tyreke Evans and Jrue Holiday. Just not there yet offensively though.

6- Caleb Foster (undrafted)
A 6'5 scoring oriented guard, not a real playmaker yet. Foster is more or less a poor man's Coby White/ bigger Cam Payne perhaps, but with less playmaking and a smoother jumpshot.

Overall, I'd preferably use our picks on a big, athletic two-way power forward or jumbo two-way defensive wing/ forward and maybe a center also man. I really like CMB as well, and consider him to have similarities to Draymond Green/ Jimmy Butler/ Charles Barkley. Although not close to those yet as his ceiling outcome until his shooting improves.

[sunskerr]

Too many holes on this boat and not enough wooden planks to cover the holes.

[BobbieL]

Would we be entertaining a trade for Booker without Beal dragging the whole team down. Without him and his NTC we could be a far better team with KD and Book. Gambo made a comment the other day as to what is really wrong with this team. He said that it is not the big three that is the problem but the guys we have at 4-7. I think that is really the problem. Which of these guys are any good.

Richards
Allen
O'Neale
Jones

These guys really do virtually nothing to help us win games. Or is it that we have the big three dominating everything we do and they do not get a chance to succeed in Bud's system? I see signs of Richards being useful going forward. Allen, O'Neale and Jones are just not very good. They should not be in your top 7, if you want to win basketball games. Allen has a contract almost as toxic as Beal, so we are stuck with him for the next 3 years, we may have a taker for O'Neale and Jones will be out of here. I expect that we will keep Richards.

The question is how are we going to get better in the 4 through 7. We would have had the room to add better players if it were not for the Beal trade. Now we are stuck with him for the following two years. It appears that we are going to trade KD. That is unfortunate because he is not the problem. Beal is the problem. If it would take Dunn to get rid of Beal's contract I would do it. If that trade happens as well as the KD trade, we must upgrade 2 through 7. It could be another off season of drastic turnover. That is not the way normal teams get better.

The big albatross is Bud. He really has to go. We need a new younger, probably black, head coach that can better relate to our players and hold them accountable.

We also are missing one position of dramatic need. Let's call it a tough guy that plays defense and holds everyone accountable. Not all these guys held folks accountable but at the very least they led by example. Here is a short list of those guys that wore a suns uniform. A vocal leader on the defensive end or the court.

CP3
Okogie
Mikal
Thunder Dan
The Matrix
Jay Crowder
P J Tucker
Raja Bell

In virtually every losing season for the past 2 decades, prior to CP3/Jay Crowder, we did not have a leader on the defensive end and we still do not have that guy. In any trade to Houston, I think we need to focus on getting Dillon Brooks.

Again, it is unfortunate that we are having to trade KD. While I hated the trade for him, I do not put the blame on the duo of Book and KD for our failures. That appears to be an ideal duo. The rest of the roster just sucks, and the coach is worse.

The real Culprit. Matt has to look in a mirror. He will see the real problem with our team.

I’m sorry but Gambo is wrong on this. The problem is 100% the big three. The problem with them is they are the same versions of each other in different bodies. Beal and Booker are essentially the same exact player. They both are clones of each other. KD is just a taller and lankier. But they all do the same things. They all love the mid range. None of them excel at distribution of the ball. None of them will ever be considered “elite defenders”. None of them ar elite rebounders for their size.

Point is, you can’t win when your big three are clones of each other. There is no diversity between the three. Miami’s big three were nothing alike style wise (Wade, Bosh, LeBron).

And Lastly, Star players make scrubs around them better. That’s what true stars do. MJ turned Luc Longley into a serviceable center and Longley sucked as soon as he left the Bulls.

You ain’t getting anything outside of the “Big three” because this “Big Three” offer nothing to make players around them better. Bottomline, this “Big three” is 100% the problem.

Very well stated. And call me crazy but I don't think the difference between Booker and Beal would be that much. To me what team would be better

Keeping Booker and trading Beal and Durant

Keeping Beal and trading Booker and Durant

If one is truly being honest - team B would be better both short and long term

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Sabre mentioned this earlier, and there's always a possibility that he could be right! But a lot of people have been claiming things about Beal being willing to be traded before to around the deadline and we all saw how that turned out! I'll believe it when I hear it directly from Beal himself and not from 3rd parties or other random sources! Also, IF this were/ is at all true, then why consider trading KD still.

Because if you successfully offload Beeal and KD, that only leaves Booker by himself for opposing defenses to key in on and double and triple team again. And wee all saw how spectacularly that worked out for us. This quick reload logic is just so flawed unless we somehow get a major haul for KD and good assets back for Beal too which is incredibly unlikely at best.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Watch the Suns (Ishbia) attach the rest of our picks just to move Beal in yet another insanely idiotic move by our delusional clownshow owner!!!

[Ghost of Kleine]

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So glad our delusionally arrogant azzhat owner is completely and utterly oblivious to this as every other team loads up on franchise cornerstone athletic talent while we cement our reputation as the most disappointing expensive punching bag for legitimate NBA teams and we continue fighting to just hang onto the 11th to 12th seed.

But Ishbias' probably right that we should just keep doubling down and trying to "run things back" after our recent years of rousing success under his management! Don't want to risk adding young athletic talent that might affect our stranglehold on the 11th - 13th seeds. And giving away lottery level talent is just a bonus because obviously, who really cares about some 7th graders or young athletic players!!! (ignoring the obvious that the top teams dominating the league are flush with young athletic talent that dominate our aging/ unathletic star trio.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[BobbieL]

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Watch the Suns (Ishbia) attach the rest of our picks just to move Beal in yet another insanely idiotic move by our delusional clownshow owner!!!

So dump a lot of picks to move Beal to keep Durant and Booker

So stupid

the best plan is to move Durant and Booker

If you can trade Booker and Durant and keep Beal - that team would be better than blowing your wad to move Beal to keep Durant and Booker

Ishbia is going to bleep this up!

[thamadkant]

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Watch the Suns (Ishbia) attach the rest of our picks just to move Beal in yet another insanely idiotic move by our delusional clownshow owner!!!

Ishiba would need to leave Arizona for life if he does that.

Its clear as day, Booker and KD are NOT good main option stars. Both need a leader kind of star to have a successful team. Both players dont inspire and rally their team mates.

Also if he does that, pretty much going to stop supporting the Suns and cut-out NBA in general. Maybe watch other well-run teams just for sanity and get my basketball fix sorted. But a horrible, stupid franchise doesnt deserve fans.

[thamadkant]

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Watch the Suns (Ishbia) attach the rest of our picks just to move Beal in yet another insanely idiotic move by our delusional clownshow owner!!!

So dump a lot of picks to move Beal to keep Durant and Booker

So stupid

the best plan is to move Durant and Booker

If you can trade Booker and Durant and keep Beal - that team would be better than blowing your wad to move Beal to keep Durant and Booker

Ishbia is going to bleep this up!

Again, fingers crossed Suns FO are just bluffing to drive prices of Booker and KD..

Because all common sense and logic points out that the Suns ONLY viable option in rebuilding its next 10 years is to keep Beal as off-loading him will require more picks and instead Suns trade out Booker and KD for all the picks and young players they can get.

[Puff]

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Watch the Suns (Ishbia) attach the rest of our picks just to move Beal in yet another insanely idiotic move by our delusional clownshow owner!!!

So dump a lot of picks to move Beal to keep Durant and Booker

So stupid

the best plan is to move Durant and Booker

If you can trade Booker and Durant and keep Beal - that team would be better than blowing your wad to move Beal to keep Durant and Booker

Ishbia is going to bleep this up!

Any team including Beal as the remaining part of the Big three, does not work for me. That team will struggle unless you get a great return for the KD and Book. The suggested trades do sound good. I would also trade Beal for a bag of popcorn. I can see that as the best solution. However, I think you guys are not including our owner in this discussion. He wants to keep Book. So trading KD and Beal is probably what will happen.

However, I can also see us keeping KD and Book while somehow getting rid of Beal and extending KD. Yeah, that makes no sense unless you are our current owner. It keeps us marketable to our fans as well as keeping us on National TV. This will also include another new head coach. Will we be any better? Probably not.

Book took shots at Bud again after the loss to Houston. How can he coexist with Bud for another year after this one?

It promises to be another summer of dramatic change. It is anyone's guess as to what we will look like in October.