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2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion

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What is your draft grade?

A+ (Home run)
9
16%
A (Excellent value and fit)
34
59%
B (Safe, reasonable picks)
11
19%
C (Average pick, modest impact)
3
5%
D (Risky, poor value)
1
2%
E (Very poor value or fit)
0
No votes
Fail (Disaster/wasted opportunity)
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 58

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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#141 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:33 am

Mark Williams is pretty good though. Just always injured. In 3 years the most games he's played in a season is 44.
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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#142 » by AtheJ415 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:33 am

bwgood77 wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:So we are trading 29 AND a future first for Mark Williams? The fact that we are doing that and keeping Richards doesn't leave me feeling too good about us keeping Maluach.


Well that might make sense. Trade him to the bulls to include Beal


Probably to the Wizards...if you read that espn blurb I posted above, it mentions them. Also NotTraxxe said we are trading 10 and Beal for Danny Wolf.

So if that's true....

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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#143 » by Sunsdeuce » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:33 am

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Blonde wrote:Why not just draft Maliach and use those two first on a forward or PG? Idk, feels like there has to be more to this. I don’t see any world where Williams/Maluach can share the floor together if we want any semblance of spacing or switching.

You’re in Ishbia’s world now. Don’t question anything he does!


I don't think we keep Maluach. Ishbia wouldn't want a project. He wants to compete now.

Been listening to Gambo for the last 10 Minutes saying he knew it was Maluach because the suns loved him but didn’t think he would be there. Basically covering his rear end for being wrong on his “Gambo 5”. But that’s besides the point.

Point is, he either has no clue about a trade or lying about the Suns wanting Maluach.
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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#144 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:34 am

F!

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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#145 » by Qwigglez » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:34 am

KdoubleDees23 wrote:
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bwgood77 wrote:
If we were on the verge of being really good and competing to win rounds in the playoffs, I could maybe get on board, but we are at a point where we need to take as many swings in the draft as we can. By the time we are good again, Williams will be long gone.


This is how I feel. It’s just blowing through assets for average players



Dude the odds the suns get a player who avg 13/10 and is 23 years old at #29 is like .0005% …. Like we got a starting C


Mark Williams did just average 15/10 with 2.5 assists, 1.2 blocks in only 27 minutes per game. Problem is, he only played in 44 games this past season, and has only played 106 games in the last 3 seasons.
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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#146 » by BobbieL » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:35 am

AtheJ415 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
Well that might make sense. Trade him to the bulls to include Beal


Probably to the Wizards...if you read that espn blurb I posted above, it mentions them. Also NotTraxxe said we are trading 10 and Beal for Danny Wolf.

So if that's true....

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Williams


Wolf sucks. He is a "playmaking" turnover machine


So Beal back to the Wizards
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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#147 » by Qwigglez » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:36 am

lilfishi22 wrote:F!

KJ still out there



Shhh... he needs to get to 16 so Blazers can take him.
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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#148 » by WeekapaugGroove » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:36 am

Sunsdeuce wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:You’re in Ishbia’s world now. Don’t question anything he does!


I don't think we keep Maluach. Ishbia wouldn't want a project. He wants to compete now.

Been listening to Gambo for the last 10 Minutes saying he knew it was Maluach because the suns loved him but didn’t think he would be there. Basically covering his rear end for being wrong on his “Gambo 5”. But that’s besides the point.

Point is, he either has no clue about a trade or lying about the Suns wanting Maluach.


Someone posted before the draft Gambo saying the Suns would take Maluach but didn't think he would be there at 10.
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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#149 » by SideSwipe » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:36 am

Keep in mind that none of these trades have completed. These will be consolidated into one bigger trade, or packaged differently most likely. CHA will likely receive higher salary as part of an effort to get us off the 2nd apron
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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#150 » by starbosa10 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:37 am

lilfishi22 wrote:F!

KJ still out there


Going to go to a smart org like OKC or SA probably
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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#151 » by thamadkant » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:37 am

Wolf's play style reminds me of Suns Nurkic....
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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#152 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:38 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
KdoubleDees23 wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
This is how I feel. It’s just blowing through assets for average players



Dude the odds the suns get a player who avg 13/10 and is 23 years old at #29 is like .0005% …. Like we got a starting C

That's exactly it. Health is the major question mark but Mark Williams is a very good C. LA were willing to overpay for him


The fact that he is 23 and still on a rookie contract is very solid though. At least we control him, can match, and likely won't have to pay him a lot due to all of his injuries only playing 106 games in 3 years.
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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#153 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:38 am

thamadkant wrote:Wolf's play style reminds me of Suns Nurkic....


But he's from Michigan.
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Post#154 » by dremill24 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:39 am

bwgood77 wrote:Mark Williams is pretty good though. Just always injured. In 3 years the most games he's played in a season is 44.


He'll fit right in
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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#155 » by Biff » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:39 am

Trading two first rounders for a guy with injury history so bad the Lakers rescinded their trade despite desperately wanting to compete for a title.
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Post#156 » by Fo-Real » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:39 am

Qwigglez wrote:Did Suns already guarantee Nick Richards?


**** YES THEY DID!!! What in THE hell?!?!
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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#157 » by SkyBill40 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:40 am

Sunsdeuce wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:You’re in Ishbia’s world now. Don’t question anything he does!


I don't think we keep Maluach. Ishbia wouldn't want a project. He wants to compete now.

Been listening to Gambo for the last 10 Minutes saying he knew it was Maluach because the suns loved him but didn’t think he would be there. Basically covering his rear end for being wrong on his “Gambo 5”. But that’s besides the point.

Point is, he either has no clue about a trade or lying about the Suns wanting Maluach.


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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#158 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:40 am

SideSwipe wrote:Keep in mind that none of these trades have completed. These will be consolidated into one bigger trade, or packaged differently most likely. CHA will likely receive higher salary as part of an effort to get us off the 2nd apron


It's weird they didn't mention what we would send out to get Williams. We didn't have a trade exception did we? I don't know what kind of cap space they have...maybe they absorb some salary....or maybe just take back similar salary like Richards.
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Post#159 » by WeekapaugGroove » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:41 am

Pels trading an unprotected 26 pick to move up to the back of the lottery is a Suns level reckless move.
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Post#160 » by dremill24 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:42 am

Fo-Real wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:Did Suns already guarantee Nick Richards?


**** YES THEY DID!!! What in THE hell?!?!


Officially or just some leak that says they "intend to?" Either way, he wouldn't be hard to move. But i don't see Maluach playing many minutes as a rookie anyway
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