2016 Draft Thread Part 3 - Poll Update

Post #1401 » by **Cactus Jack** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:55 am

DX has Poeltl going ahead of him :crazy:

. I wouldn't touch him.

saintEscaton · Post #1402 » by **saintEscaton** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:57 am

Poetl is gunna end up being what Len was supposed to, Ellenson's lack of footspeed/rim protection and porous post defense will neutralize the mismatches he creates as a floor spacing center because he won't cut it at PF.

Post #1403 » by **Cactus Jack** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:02 am

saintEscaton wrote:Poetl is gunna end up being what Len was supposed to.

Not a fan of Poeltl at ALL. Pass.

Post #1404 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:38 am

saintEscaton wrote:Poetl is gunna end up being what Len was supposed to, Ellenson's lack of footspeed/rim protection and porous post defense will neutralize the mismatches he creates as a floor spacing center because he won't cut it at PF.

I wouldn't totally mind Poetl at 13, but he won't be there. Ellenson is going to be better imo.

Post #1405 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:40 am

Cactus Jack wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:Poetl is gunna end up being what Len was supposed to.

Not a fan of Poeltl at ALL. Pass.

You seem to have a one track mind. Hield or I think Murray? For the Suns? No one else you like? Do you study anyone else or really care about the Suns and their real needs all that much?

Post #1406 » by **Cactus Jack** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:53 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:Poetl is gunna end up being what Len was supposed to.

Not a fan of Poeltl at ALL. Pass.

You seem to have a one track mind. Hield or I think Murray? For the Suns? No one else you like? Do you study anyone else or really care about the Suns and their real needs all that much?

I just don't like Poeltl. Nothing special. Ellenson is superior imo. I would be fine with Ellenson/Chriss/Skal at 13.

darealjuice · Post #1407 » by **darealjuice** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:22 am

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-am-is-derrick-rose-on-his-way-out/

Some interesting rumors on draft promises and medical issues on basketball insiders. Tyler Ulis is supposedly red flagged for a significant hip issue that may require surgery, Denzel Valentine has knee issues and was compared to Danny Granger by some teams in terms of future knee damage, Celtics are eyeing Brown, Murray, or Chriss if they keep their pick (probably smoke knowing Ainge), Malachi Richardson may have a promise in the late teens, Sabonis may have a promise in the top 12, plenty of international guys have "promises", etc.

MrMiyagi · Post #1408 » by **MrMiyagi** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:29 am

Please, dear old gods, new gods, drowned gods, many faced god, Lord of Light, let it be June 24th already.

Post #1409 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:37 am

MrMiyagi wrote:Please, dear old gods, new gods, drowned gods, many faced god, Lord of Light, let it be June 24th already.

I'd be happier with June 23rd.

darealjuice · Post #1410 » by **darealjuice** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:38 am

MrMiyagi wrote:Please, dear old gods, new gods, drowned gods, many faced god, Lord of Light, let it be June 24th already.

R'hllor has heard your prayers and moved the NBA Draft to June 23rd. Praise be.

YouTube · Post #1411 » by **Kerrsed** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:46 am

MrMiyagi wrote:Please, dear old gods, new gods, drowned gods, many faced god, Lord of Light, let it be June 24th already.

The night is dark and full of terrors......

Post #1412 » by **Cactus Jack** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:59 am

darealjuice wrote:http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-am-is-derrick-rose-on-his-way-out/

Some interesting rumors on draft promises and medical issues on basketball insiders. Tyler Ulis is supposedly red flagged for a significant hip issue that may require surgery, Denzel Valentine has knee issues and was compared to Danny Granger by some teams in terms of future knee damage, Celtics are eyeing Brown, Murray, or Chriss if they keep their pick (probably smoke knowing Ainge), Malachi Richardson may have a promise in the late teens, Sabonis may have a promise in the top 12, plenty of international guys have "promises", etc.

Boston not even considering Bender? Ainge has a pretty good eye for talent. Bender= Pass. :wink:

YouTube · Post #1413 » by **Kerrsed** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:06 am

darealjuice wrote:http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-am-is-derrick-rose-on-his-way-out/

Some interesting rumors on draft promises and medical issues on basketball insiders. Tyler Ulis is supposedly red flagged for a significant hip issue that may require surgery, Denzel Valentine has knee issues and was compared to Danny Granger by some teams in terms of future knee damage, Celtics are eyeing Brown, Murray, or Chriss if they keep their pick (probably smoke knowing Ainge), Malachi Richardson may have a promise in the late teens, Sabonis may have a promise in the top 12, plenty of international guys have "promises", etc.

From everything i have read on Celtic's sites/blogs, They are Desperate for 3 point shooting. They have some great defensive guards. They have some good young defensive bigs. The area they fall off a cliff is shooters and more specifically 3 point shooters. IT is their best at 35%. They are losing their starting SG (Turner) in FA, and the only other SG on the roster is James Young, who is an awful 3 point shooter. Its the whole reason why you see them asking the guys in the workouts to shoot 100 3's for them. Word is they love Buddy, but know that #3 is most likely too high to draft him. He has certain advantages over Murray, but they are pretty damn close. I think when it all comes down to it, if they keep #3, they are drafting Murray. If they really think Hield is that much better for them, they trade down a few spots and most likely get him along with some sort of role player from the team that is trading up.

Its going to be either Murray or Hield for Boston.

Post #1414 » by **Cactus Jack** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:15 am

Kerrsed wrote:Its going to be either Murray or Hield for Boston.

sunsbum · Post #1415 » by **sunsbum** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:40 am

This changes every two hours but as of now

4a.) Bender
4b.) Heild

13a) Ellenson
13b) Davis
13c) Sabonis
13d) Murray

Other picks I'll leave it up to my Scouts BG and Saint.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #1416 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:51 am

DraftExpress tend to get it very close by the final week.

They have Chriss @ 3, so I'd expect him to be a top 5 pick, which means we're well and truely in the mix.

He's really a McDonough prototype too.

Buddy Hield hit 85 / 100 3 pointers at a Celtics workout.

Watched a Brandon Ingram interview after workout, and he's much more mature and focused than my previous impression.

MrMiyagi · Post #1417 » by **MrMiyagi** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:20 am

bwgood77 wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:Please, dear old gods, new gods, drowned gods, many faced god, Lord of Light, let it be June 24th already.

I'd be happier with June 23rd.

Nah, give me the day after when we know who we got. I don't think I can handle the speculation before and after each of the picks. There'll be like 50 theories about the guy we picked being a pick for another team for a trade for someone and all of it will be wild speculation. By the 24th I can get my Tormund eyes working on whoever will suiting up in orange and purple.

Sunsss · Post #1418 » by **Sunsss** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:53 am

MrMiyagi wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:Please, dear old gods, new gods, drowned gods, many faced god, Lord of Light, let it be June 24th already.

I'd be happier with June 23rd.

Nah, give me the day after when we know who we got. I don't think I can handle the speculation before and after each of the picks. There'll be like 50 theories about the guy we picked being a pick for another team for a trade for someone and all of it will be wild speculation. By the 24th I can get my Tormund eyes working on whoever will suiting up in orange and purple.

Can't wait to read the complaints about our pick that day.

MrMiyagi · Post #1419 » by **MrMiyagi** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:07 am

Sunsss wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
I'd be happier with June 23rd.

Nah, give me the day after when we know who we got. I don't think I can handle the speculation before and after each of the picks. There'll be like 50 theories about the guy we picked being a pick for another team for a trade for someone and all of it will be wild speculation. By the 24th I can get my Tormund eyes working on whoever will suiting up in orange and purple.

Can't wait to read the complaints about our pick that day.

I've resigned myself to just wait and see and cheer for whoever we get. I'm not rooting for us to draft anyone. Let the chips fall where they may.

Post #1420 » by **TASTIC** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:35 am

For the Buddy camp:

1) do you see him as a starter this upcoming season?
2) which position?
3) who of Bledsoe and Knight are being dealt? (Unless you think we keep both)
4a) do you want Buddy starting if it means Booker has to play majority SF?
4b) at the expense of Warren?
5) who are you taking at 13?
6) would you take Buddy over Bender/Dunn/Criss/Skal/Murray/Brown, assuming Simmons and Ingram are gone?

Not attacking Buddy fans as I like him, just not at 4 when we have so many more glaring holes to fill and basically there isn't a clear-cut path to minutes for him without some decent legwork from McD first.

To me there's just too many overlapping skills to warrant picking him, I do like his game however, but he won't be there at 13.

Who are your top two choices at the 4th pick?